Thursday, November 25, 2010

The provocation of China via North Korea

Now to North Korea/South Korea.....

It is quite obvious that this was a provocation on the part of the US and South Korea.
The US and South Korea were engaged in war games and they are planning on keeping the war games provocations up.

The US and South Korea are to stage fresh war games in the Yellow Sea in the coming days in a show of force against the North Korean regime, as diplomatic and military tension remained high on the Korean peninsula.

If they are going to start fresh war games, it means they have held previous war games. Which were the provocations that North Korea responded to.

On top of all this we have the US taking this opportunity to move the USS Washington provocatively close to China, to the Yellow Sea.

"The USS Washington left Yokosuka US Naval Base south of Tokyo on Wednesday morning and will begin the joint exercises on Sunday"

China has previously warned the US on taking such provocative actions. Previously the US backed off.

The US postponed plans for similar exercises last August after Beijing reacted furiously to its announcement that it was sending the USS Washington to the Yellow Sea, with one Chinese general describing the move as a "flagrant provocation".
This time, something else is going on. This time, it has to do with expanding the currency war to a real military conflict.
The US is displeased that China would not devalue their currency.
This decision by China to not destroy their own economy, in order to bail the US out of the disaster of their own making, is all the reason the US needs to fire warning shots at China.
I have covered this topic in previous posts

Therefore the provocation of North Korea, the moving of the USS Washington into the Yellow Sea, are all the opening salvos of an attempt to provoke or intimidate China.
This could end badly, or not.
But in a nutshell, this is my take on what is going on.
If anyone else has an opinion, feel free to leave your thoughts.

42 comments:

  1. You know, we can China bash all we want - but it wasn't China who outsourced ALL the manufacturing jobs over there - it was the bloody corporate elites!

    China took advantage of that, of course, who can blame them? The US is finished, the writing is clear on the wall. I am NOT rejoicing for the fine folks who have been screwed over because it will come here too.

    I wish that Canadians weren't so fucking apathetic, that will be our own downfall.

    I told you Obama was worse than Bush - at least with Bush you knew what you were getting, with Obama he fooled SO many.

    I see a revolution coming and it won't be pretty by any stretch of the imagination.

    Buff

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  2. In my opinion Obama inherited a poisoned chalice, so it's difficult to say whether he is 'worse than Bush". It's not particularly similar in Australia, but can remember feeling somewhat sorry for Kevin Rudd, as we (well some of us) saw the GFC coming several years before it actually 'became public'; and knew that whoever took over the federal parliament here in 2008 was in for a rocky time, financially. Fortunately, we seem to have weathered the worst of it.

    Australia, however, is riding on the back of a "resources boom" so far, and our major customer is China.

    Have to say that the mention of George Bush (or anyone like him) fills me with terror, as there wouldn't be much in the way of "negotiation" or "military posturing" .. heh. Shoot first, worry about the consequences later.

    The US is in an awkward position, militarily. Has proved to the rest of the world that it cannot "win" a "conventional" land war; is still tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan; and one of the reasons NK and China are prodding the bruised ribs. Dangerous game.

    To add insult to injury, China and Russia are flirting with economic "alliance".
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-11/24/content_11599087.htm

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  3. hey buffy I am not china bashing, but, I am assuming your directing that commentary towards the average no nothing twit?

    Yes, it was the US that outsourced all the jobs to China.
    Yes it was the US government that gave tax breaks to corporations to encourage them to move to China.

    So what is the point in bashing China?

    When the 'west' was happily sending manufacturing over to China. They (US and Canada) weren't complaining as long as the dummies in the US and Canada, were willing to bury themselves in debt,to live beyond the means of there low paying jobs

    But now that everything has gone to hell in a handbasket it is time to blame China?

    No.
    It is time to blame the leaders of the western world.
    The bankers who exploited the population and the corporations (multinationals) for being nothing but profiteering scumbags.
    For digging us a hole and burying us inside.
    And then ourselves,(but not me) for being so, so stupid.

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  4. davo:
    "Australia, however, is riding on the back of a "resources boom" so far, and our major customer is China."

    i saw a news story to this effect today. If things heat up with the US gunning for China.
    Speculation is Australia is going to go in the dumper.
    It is going to get ugly

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  5. Hey Pen, of course I don't think you are bashing China, dear girlfriend! You are far too smart for that!

    Yes, I am blaming the no-wits who listen to the various propoganda channels which masquerade as press!

    Anyway, yeah to the rest. Personally I see these actions as a massive sign of desperation on the cusp of madness.

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  6. "when elephants fight, the grass gets trampled" .. heh.

    have to say that we are fortunate (?) in Australia since neither of the 'major' political parties are specifically antagonistic towards each other.

    and as for "propaganda" .. um, Stewpit Mudrake was never an "Aussie" .. heh.

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  7. * on second thoughts, please change "specifically" to "fundamentally".

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  8. Observer 2010-11-26 00:52
    China should buy more iron ore from India and Brazil instead of from Australia which has constantly demonised and tells lies about China by their biased journalists against China. China should trade more with BRIC nations like India and Brazil and not Australia.

    Stop importing iron ore from unfriendly and ungrateful Australia!


    This is copied and pasted from
    a China Daily article

    was tempted to respond but hey "propaganda" is not a Foxnews exclusive.

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  9. *another bloody edit -
    was copied from a "comment" on the article.

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  10. Gah, must be getting daft in old age .. where did THAT previous comment go?

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  11. TAKE 2
    Observer 2010-11-26 00:52
    China should buy more iron ore from India and Brazil instead of from Australia which has constantly demonised and tells lies about China by their biased journalists against China. China should trade more with BRIC nations like India and Brazil and not Australia.

    Stop importing iron ore from unfriendly and ungrateful Australia!


    Comment copied from THIS article in the China Daily.

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  12. "propaganda" is not exclusive to Foxnews .. heh.

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  13. Ok, apologies for the plethora of apparently disconnected comments, but this is becoming, well, intriguing. Everytime i do an 'a href' link to the chin dail the 'comment' vanishes. ???????

    Any thoughts?

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  14. Hey Davo!

    you have a link to china daily in your first comment.

    right at the end.
    connects to the news story on Russia and China quitting the US dollar.
    Is this the link you are referring to?

    I had actually heard this news story.

    "- China and Russia have decided to renounce the US dollar and resort to using their own currencies for bilateral trade, Premier Wen Jiabao and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin announced late on Tuesday. "

    not a surpise

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  15. ah, no, not that link, was using the "a href=" html string. Will stop trying to be 'clever' and just copy and paste the web address in future.

    This is the article i was referring to -
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2010-11/25/content_11607697.htm

    and there is a comment at the end of the article -

    "Observer 2010-11-26 00:52
    China should buy more iron ore from India and Brazil instead of from Australia which has constantly demonised and tells lies about China by their biased journalists against China. China should trade more with BRIC nations like India and Brazil and not Australia.

    Stop importing iron ore from unfriendly and ungrateful Australia!"

    which i thought interesting.

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  16. Hey Davo!

    don't ever stop trying to be clever.
    I can't do those either and I had a page bookmarked to help me with that, then the other computer crashed and I lost all my bookmarks, including that one.

    So if buffy comes back, it was maricopa or something like that, then you and I can both be clever,

    whaddaya say?

    I will go a check that out, merci.
    I meant to get a new post up today, but, sadly had no time to do so. :(

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  17. This new bit of Western sponsored agro-rubbish that we're being shown on the big stage, can be distilled back to the banking scum that slither about. China, just as every other so-called sovereign nation, are nothing more than vassal states for the central banking cartel full-stop. They are just franchise operations with different store managers replaceable at a whim. With installed leaders who've secured leadership positions once they've been suitably profiled, vetted, tested, re-tested and compromised to ensure loyalty. Countries that once had independence have long ago had it subverted away through banking operations, loans disguised as aid, or covert ops at the behest of banking interests.

    What we're witnessing is the United States acting like the world's worst debt cheat and China should have known better. But alas it wasn't China per se making those loans, it was its central banking operatives. Meaning that this situation was engineered, and the U.S. is now so far in debt to China for loans that they cannot pay. They can't exactly pay those outstanding debts to China when they've promised that same money to Herr Rothschild and company. Money pledged to central bankers and secured from their hostage populace through austerity measures (read: open, raw plunder).

    So the debt-cheat nation which no longer pays for anything is instead choosing to instigate a war by proxy (again) through North Korea with ultimate designs on China, To the thinking person this is absolutely psychotic behaviour, a desperation borne of madness. To the bankers who care not a whit and have no allegiance to trite matters such as nations it is simply a business move on the giant chessboard. Also China has massive resources that are taking too long to be conquered under slow and conventional means. The U.S. cannot possibly win a war against China, much less Russia, and has perhaps in this incarnation outlived its usefulness to Rothschild Inc. Only the maniacal can plot something so absurdly ridiculous that they actually think will work out to their advantage. Who can anticipate the machinations of the insanely evil, the sociopathically sub-human?

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  18. I am back, the wonder of bookmarks:

    Writing HTML

    It's a great little tutorial.

    :)

    Buffy

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  19. Why has nobody kidnapped a Rothschild or two and held them in exchange for the national debt of a country?

    Certainly a lot easier than legislation.

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  20. Part 1of 2

    Hi Penny. Sorry for the delay getting back to you after linking some of your posts over at twelfth Bough. You were 100% on the money with prepositioning on naval forces at the 2 maritime transit choke points.

    After reading your previous posts on China’s interest in investing in Petroleum storage facilities and the US presence in Haiti post I wondered what the global dispersion of oil refineries was. A very interesting fact came out.

    10 of the top 40 global oil refineries are in the Asian area. They process 5.8 millions barrels worth per day out of a global total of 18.5 million bpd. The US has 12 refineries with a capacity of 4.8 million bpd. South America and the Caribbean have 3 refineries with 1.8 million bpd. Source;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_refineries

    Any naval action in this area will certainly distract the herd from the TSA issue as well as blocking maritime traffic. Oil tankers traffic will also be certainly curtailed. Were ships to start getting sunk then Asia would effectively be starved of refined petroleum products. Is the US going to attempt with China what they did with Imperial Japan?

    So the aircraft carrier George Washington that is en route to the Korean area and is due to take part in ‘War games’ on Sunday. Would it be better referred to as a ‘sacrificial goat? Any disruption would be blamed on another ‘rogue’ regime. The economic disruption would be their blame also.

    Wall Street and the Pentagram certainly have the chutzpah to blackmail China and offer them a deal they can’t refuse - work out something on the debt and we won’t turn off the oil spigot. The chess pieces have been on the move for months – are we seeing the start of an end-game?

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  21. Part 2 of 2

    Israhell recent bought a huge stock pile of processed aviation fuel – with a limited shelf life. The US has large military forces already preplaced around the Panama Canal and Suez/Gulf of Aden. Japan and China are already locked into a territorial dispute. The danger of this can not be underestimated.

    Gordon Duff did an article recently on the theft of the entire technical specifications of the new F35 fighter. The last time this magnitude of technical espionage happened was when the khazar Jonathan Pollard sold all of the US’s most sensitive technical secrets to that vile Rothschild statelet.

    They sold the lot to the Soviets. In a war scenario the US would have lost rapidly. A subsequent spin-off back then was the shooting down of the ‘invisible’ F117 stealth fighter over the former Yugoslavia. Guess where they got the information to let them identify and target that plane?

    Finally, here are some wild rumours going around that an active sub hunt has been prosecuted recently by US & Canadian Frigates in the Pacific Northwest with live munitions and also of the shooting down of a US F22 and a Canadian F18 in retaliation.

    While these stories are speculative at best it would be naïve to take the ‘official’ line on the current situation with anything but a huge pinch of salt.

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  22. Penny, go to HHQ's blog - he has one of the best posts I have seen in a long time up there!

    oh lol verification word: copojew

    Buff

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  23. um, Hi Anon/buffy. far be it from me to get into "conspiracy" theories, but have just tried to 'click' on your 'link'; Writing HTML. Doesn't work. perhaps it's my computer, perhaps not, but will say that every time that i tried to write that 'link' string and post it into this comments box, it vanished. Curious.

    and Oh, Hei Hu Quan; one of the most concise analyses of the background of the present 'argy bargy' that have seen so far - but have been "off the net" for a couple of years, and trying to catch up .. heh.

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  24. Hmmm you are right, that is odd.

    http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/

    I'll try to do it again and see:

    Writing HTML

    Now, let's find out if that works... odd, I must say.

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  25. Well that one worked for me, still though very strange.

    Buffy

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  26. er, works (at this point) heh.

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  27. have to say that, while am not "extremely" paranoid, am aware that the programmers at Microsoft and Blogger (aka google)do have the capability of inserting sneaky codes into the system. methinks it's called "data mining". Where it goes and what they do with it is anyone's guess.

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  28. Hey Davo, yeah sometimes some pretty wierd stuff happens to posts here and on some other blogs too. Could be an innocent glitch, or not. Who knows.

    I do hope, however, that you find the html tutorial to your liking. When making my own website for a uni museum years ago I found it extemely helpful!!

    Good luck :)

    Buffy - too lazy to sign in.

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  29. holy smokes, a comments to address and zero time to do so.

    we have had a birthday weekend and other crap, so I will fully read the comments tomorrow.

    sorry :(

    but thanks for leaving them, it looks like some interesting reading :)

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  30. Hey Penny, off topic but I wondered if you saw that all commenting funcitons on the CBC website have been shut down today. In the wikileaks articles before all was shut down, there were many pointing out that it seemed that Assange was cointelpro.

    Hmmm???

    Buffy

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  31. Just more planned and planted distractions to keep people scared shitless so they'll stop asking questions about 9/11.

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  32. HHQ: I don't think I could have said it any better, in fact, I know I could not have.

    "The U.S. cannot possibly win a war against China, much less Russia"

    I agree, so why bother trying?
    It seems so insane to even consider it.
    I mean, can china be occupied with it's billion strong population, it is a bizarre thought.

    But then there are nukes?

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  33. Buffy: bookmarked that site, thanks :)

    Edo: seems sensible doesn't it?
    So why hasn't it been done?

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  34. "The U.S. cannot possibly win a war against China, much less Russia"

    I agree, so why bother trying?
    It seems so insane to even consider it.


    That's the whole point! How can you better get rid of 4 billion "useless" eaters and eliminate in the same time the unredeamable debt?

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  35. chuckyman: thanks for coming back and taking the time to expand on my thoughts, by adding your own, that was wonderful, just wonderful!

    The point about the oil refineries (which I hadn't though of) combined with the choke points, and this

    "Were ships to start getting sunk then Asia would effectively be starved of refined petroleum products. Is the US going to attempt with China what they did with Imperial Japan?"

    I had forgotten all about that. The blockade of Japan. An fyi for anyone unfamiliar-

    "Roosevelt moved towards the Pacific theater first, knowing that, if he could provoke Japan to attack America first, America would automatically be at war with Germany as well. He also knew that, should Germany attack America, Japan would have to declare war on America. So Roosevelt attempted to get either nation to attack the United States first. Japan was to get the first opportunity.

    In October, 1940, Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox sent for Admiral J.O. Richardson, Commander-in-Chief of the American fleet in the Pacific. Knox advised him that the President wanted him to establish a patrol of the Pacific—a wall of American naval vessels stretched across the western Pacific in such a way as to make it impossible for Japan to reach any of her sources of supply; a blockade of Japan to prevent by force her use of any part of the Pacific Ocean."
    http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-2/ww2.htm

    if anyone has a better link feel free to leave it

    "So the aircraft carrier George Washington that is en route to the Korean area and is due to take part in ‘War games’ on Sunday. Would it be better referred to as a ‘sacrificial goat? "

    is it an older carrier? Perhaps soon to be discarded? I wonder, because if it is, the sacrificial goat comparison may be very valid.
    Thinking of the older ships in Pearl Harbour.

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  36. chuckyman part 2:

    "Israhell recent bought a huge stock pile of processed aviation fuel – with a limited shelf life. The US has large military forces already preplaced around the Panama Canal and Suez/Gulf of Aden. Japan and China are already locked into a territorial dispute. The danger of this can not be underestimated."

    And then there was the news that the US is "storing" weapons in Israel,as if!
    US storing weapons in Israel

    Israel therefore has extra fuel and extra munitions, convenient.

    do you have a link to the gordon duff article handy, if not I will hunt it down?

    re: the sub hunt while I think I may have seen mention of this once I can't be sure..
    Interesting.

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  37. Gallier!

    "That's the whole point! How can you better get rid of 4 billion "useless" eaters and eliminate in the same time the unredeamable debt?"

    I am not demented enough to have even considered that.

    But, since you mentioned it, I have to concede mass genocide is well within the mindset of the ptb's

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  38. Davo: I have used the link thingy and yeah, that is better.

    See we need never stop being clever! :)

    Greg Bacon: interesting.


    Anyway, I hope, no one is left out.

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  39. You are very welcome Penny. You did the hard work – I just had a gut feeling after reading your posts. I don’t know why I haven’t come to your excellent blog before.

    Here is the Gordon Duff article I mentioned.
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/02/national-security-alert-f-35-stealth-fighter-spy-cover-up/

    The George Washington is the 6th of the 10 Nimitz class vessels and was launched in July 1990 and commissioned in July 1992. With an expected service life of 50 years it still has a lot of life left on the clock. It did suffer a large fire in 2008 that injured 37 sailors and required a major repair bill at the time.

    Maybe the name is the physiological linkage but I think that’s a coincidence as its home port is Yokosuka, Japan. The pieces are now in place. A replay of the Gulf of Tonkin ‘attack’ is not without precedent - there are a number of ‘players’ that might kick off such an incident. The key will be to see how the economic winds blow. Chilling stuff unfortunately Penny.

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  40. thanks chuckyman, I shall check it out. Greatly appreciated!

    " I don’t know why I haven’t come to your excellent blog before."

    no matter you are here now and can easily find me again.
    Thanks for the compliment also, very kind.

    I always put up whatever is interesting to me, which can seem a little scattered, but if one is aware and clearly you are, then one realizes it is all interconnected like a spiders web you know what I mean?

    Because when you think about it, just superficially you may think what the hell does Somalia have to do with Haiti, have to do with war on China, but, it does all connect,

    PS:
    chuckyman I linked to you in the sidebar, if you are there I will be more likely to visit.
    cheers!

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  41. Thank you for your kind words Penny – I have linked your site also. I hope to live up to expectations (grin).

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