What to make of this latest news story regarding the "leaked" Palestinians Papers?
I will admit to being confused at just what or who is making plans for South America.
Palestinians condemn US plan to settle refugees in South America
Palestinians have expressed shock and dismay at the US suggestion to settle Palestinian refugees in Argentina and Chile rather than let them return to their ancestral land in Israel.Here is what CR said:
"It's completely unacceptable. It contradicts our inalienable right to return to our own homeland," said Daniel Jadue, vice-president of Chile's Palestine Federation. "That right cannot be renounced. To make this suggestion shows the mediation was not honest. It was clearly tilted in favour of Israel. This is extremely grave."
Condoleeza Rice who was secretary of state in the Bush administration, floated the idea at a meeting on 28 June 2008 with US, Israeli and Palestinian negotiators in Berlin, according to minutes of the encounter obtained by al-Jazeera and shared with the Guardian.
During a discussion about international funding to compensate refugees – an estimated 5 million Palestinians are scattered around the Middle East – the US diplomat made a startling suggestion.The suggestion dumbfounded South America's Palestinians. Obviously!
"Maybe we will be able to find countries that can contribute in kind. Chile, Argentina etc (ie, give land)."
The proposal seems based on the fact that Chile has a large Palestinian community dating back a century and, like Argentina, has large tracts of sparsely populated land.
Chile's Palestinians would welcome compatriots who chose to settle in the Andes, said Jadue. "If a Palestinian accepted to come here that would be their right and we would show solidarity." But that did not justify a US proposal to funnel refugees from the Middle East to reduce pressure on Israel to give up land, he said. "That's wrong."
Now, here is where I get confused.
There has been whispers about an influx of Israeli's into South America.
Well actually more then a whisper. This bit of news first came to light when I heard this interview; Download this episode (right click and save)
I encourage you to listen to it. It is most interesting.
Adrian Salbuchi is a researcher, author, journalist, speaker, and international consultant on political and public risk management, having held top management posts in major multinational risk management companies.The mountain range runs between Chile and Argentina.
He's also familiar with Israel's reported large land purchase in Patagonia, Argentina, the topic of today's discussion.
Patagonia borders both Argentina and Chile: You can see it in the bottom section of Argentina, making up what looks like a good 40 percent of Argentina (guesstimating)
This interview sent me digging for info, which I bookmarked, but didn't get around to putting together a post. (Too much info, too little time)
Around the time I listened to this interview, Greg over at Goon Squad had put up a post on this very topic. Serendipity!
In his post Greg correctly points out that the idea of having a homeland for the followers of Judaism in Argentina, had been previously considered. Keep that in mind as you read the information in this post.
This is the information I had found. Patagonia a popular spot for Israelis
"Hebrew is practically a second language here"
Bariloche, Patagonia (Argentina) - "Have you been to 'Israeloche?'" (Renaming the city?) came the question from an Israeli backpacker. It didn't seem that off the mark given that the Argentine city of Bariloche was indeed overrun with Israeli travelers. For that matter, all of Patagonia is chock-full of Israelis.
Drawn by the rugged landscape, numerous trekking opportunities and the relative bargain that Argentina has become in the wake of the 2001 financial crisis, Israelis are pouring into Patagonia. As noted by a worker at a tourist information booth in Ushuaia in Tierra del Fuego, "the most steady stream of travelers that we receive throughout the year are Israelis." For all intents and purposes, Bariloche is the hub of Jewish life in Patagonia, a geographic region at the southernmost portion of South America. In Bariloche, there is a permanent Jewish community of nearly 150 people, and that number is buoyed by a tremendous influx of Israeli travelers passing through. Bariloche is also home to one of the most southerly Beit Chabads on the planet, and I stopped by for Shabbat and squeezed my way into a packed service. Following services, the synagogue reconvened in a convention hall for Shabbat dinner, and we were joined by scores of Israeli travelers; in total, nearly 150 people were there for Shabbat dinner.Read the rest at the above link!
While most Israeli travelers are post-army (?) backpackers, I have also encountered a considerable number of older Israelis on vacation here. One Israeli remarked that he was visiting Patagonia because his son had been backpacking here the previous year and recommended it so highly that he had to come himself. Similar sentiments were echoed by other older travelers, not to mention a scattered number of Israeli families traveling in Patagonia. Every city and hiking refuge in this land of midnight summer sun is filled with Israelis. So much so, it seems Hebrew is practically a second language in Patagonia.
So, if either Argentina or Chile were being seriously considered as a new homeland for the Palestinians, why would there be a steady influx of Israeli's. Including the claimed "post army" backpackers?
I also came across this article, The other Patagonia, and an interesting sentence caught my eye.
Regarding a very large land purchase made by Doug Tompkins, founder of North Face and Espirit.Doug Tompkins converted to Judaism and accused him of importing Israeli commandos.
This author suggests that this is a claim made by "neo-nazis". Nice way to use guilt by association to discredit these claims. Since it does seem South America is full of Israelis. We can even read the Jerusalem Post extolling the "Jewishness" of the place.
But, that is not all!
I came across this. Israeli War Criminals in Patagonia
This is an extremely lengthy piece.
" I saw the huge number of the Israeli troops spreading in the south of Chile. Some were carrying electronic equipment in their backpacks and under their T-shirts, as if they were on an official mission. I saw these Israeli criminals on ships, in the bus, on the streets of all towns and villages, at the coffee shops, in the restaurants, in hotels and … everywhere, right and left"
"Why are the Israeli war criminals still sending their troops, their special forces from different units, Golani, Givati, Death squads, Shimshon, Paratroopers, military Intelligence … etc. to Patagonia?
What is the next step and plan of these war criminals in Patagonia? Does the IOF plan to destroy the nature and to build more Jewish settlements in Chile and Argentina? Does the IOF train during their continuous presence in Patagonia? What disaster will the Israeli criminal forces bring to the kind Chilean people, and why? Is Patagonia planned to become a new or alternative homeland for the Jews?"
Backpackers everywhere, just like the Jerusalem Post article.
I know it is a lengthy post. And, there is a lot of information to digest. The interview, Greg's post and all the information I have posted makes one wonder, just what the heck is going on in South America, Argentina and Chile.
This information may also tie in with some work AP at Twelfth Bough has done.