Thursday, January 5, 2012

Interview Miguel Connor: Gnostic Heresy & the Voices of Gnosticism

I am doing a complete 360 today.

If you have been following along for a while, well, you'll understand that is what I do occasionally.
Plus, I need a break from the heavy gloom and doom of war and killing, earth destruction, mayhem and madness.
Heard this interview on Gnostic Media and found it very interesting. It seemed now was a good time to share it.
Possibly because I recently gave it a relisten???
So, as always thanks to Jan Irving for this great interview!

"This episode is an interview with Miguel Conner, titled “Gnostic Heresy: The Voices of Gnosticism”
Miguel Conner is host of Aeon Byte, the only topical and guest radio show on Gnosticism and other heresies. He is author of the critically acclaimed Voices of Gnosticism, a series of transcripts of past guests and his own writings on Gnosticism.

Podcast: Play in new window | Download (49.7MB) It is about an hour and a half in length

I piqued my interest enough to spend some time, actually quite a bit of time, over at Miguel Conner's site going through the shows that were available for listening.




If I may be so bold as to suggest listening to the series of interviews that started with
Entry 1- What Happens When we Die
Entry 2- Precognition or Remembering the Future
and continues on through to
Entry 13-The Pleroma or Zero Point Field

This series, which is collectively known as Schrodingers Diary, touches on quantum physics and brain function and all other manner of topics like Near death experiences and epilepsy.
In this series of interviews we are introduced to Anthony Peake and many other persons and topics.

The Schrodinger being referenced is, as I found out, is Erwin Schrodinger who formulated a decades-old paradox which has been used to relate complex quantum mechanics to everyday objects.




Speaking for myself, of course myself being the only one I can speak for, I found the whole series extremely thought provoking. Like I said, a mix of quantum physics, brain research and perhaps a different take on spirituality.
Or maybe you will think it a bunch of "gobbledeegook"
Whatever and whichever? I enjoy challenging my thinking and try to learn something new everyday.
If you do find the time to take this all in..... listen & let me know.
One more thing Miguel Connor is the author of this book.


A book that was on my wish list for Christmas and I did receive it. (thanks hubster!)
I think it will be quite an interesting read.

17 comments:

  1. hey pen, long time no type...

    read the latest post, thought you might be interested in another take on gnosticism.

    john lash has an extensive site...
    enjoy

    http://www.metahistory.org/


    p.s. wishing you some semblance of 'happy' new yr...

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  2. Making a complete 360° ? This means no change then ;-)

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  3. Hey Kikz!!!

    I would be most interested in taking another(different)look at gnosticism..

    bookmarking it as soon as I am done typing.

    After I listened to the interview with MC,then almost through most of what was available on site, I realized I had been missing on on some interesting info in previously unknown (to me) and yet fascinating topic.

    Wishing you a happy new year also kikz or as you put it, some semblance of on..


    And THANKS!!

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  4. Gallier

    I guess it means no change?

    Are you giving me a "hard time"
    In a nice sort of a way?

    Since I wander here anyway....
    I guess no, no change.

    Just a fatigue from the usual impending war news

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  5. Kikz a question?

    have you ever seen this site
    http://www.jwmt.org/archives/index.html

    and if you had what did you think of the info there?

    I got searching around for stuff after all this new info..
    and for some reason bookmarked this, though I imagine there is just a mountain of available info on line

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  6. lash is a most interesting writer on myth. i'd bought his book on twins for my girls a yr or so ago.. then noticed his name on an e-article somewhere.. then found his website.. :)


    newp pen... JWMT, that's a new one for me..
    looks interesting, but i don't have that much of an interest in practical magic. don't know that i'm familiar w/kupperman at all...

    might be a while b4 i can dig.. but it definitely covers a lot of ground. thx for the bkmk!

    oh and here's another for you while i'm at it.. livergood decidedly has a xtian bent to his gnosticism.. but that influence, to me, was not off putting.

    http://www.hermes-press.com/Perennial_Tradition/index.htm

    IMHO perennialism definitely threads thru gnosticism...

    livergood is quite nice about answering emails also... :)

    be aware.. if you go exploring, depending on what your looking for.. you can get dumped out off the website, as it.. self-sorts.. i wasn't particularly interested in some of the 'trails' other than in what livergood had to say about them........it's quite odd in that it somewhat functions like.. the sorting hat in harry potter :) you definitely get what your looking for... :D

    after you begin to understand what perennialism encompasses.. you'll see it everywhere.. even in jk rowling's work :)
    i'd never heard the term b4 i somehow found the site.

    p.s. hi gallier.. long time no see... :)

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  7. cripes, as long as i'm at it..

    here's a couple more frm my gnostic bkmks file

    http://www.gnosis.org/library.html

    http://gnosis.org/welcome.html
    reference to connor's book is on this one..

    cheers!

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  8. Hey Kikz!

    the bookmarks list grows ever longer.... oh well, I shall never be bored

    I read the review on MC's book and I get the idea from the review, which confirmed what I had already suspected is that this is sort of an intro to gnositicism.

    Which is great!
    Because I am brand new to this topic.

    Wondering kikz????

    I am taking this topic of gnostics and gnosticism not as religion but as knowledge.
    Yes, there are spiritual elements to it, but, it comes off more as human knowledge for life.

    What do you think?

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  9. Ok I have no intellect.!!!!

    What the heck was that little film about? Poor pussy cat being stuck in a box like that!

    What was all that fuss about?

    Like I say, I gots no intellect it seems.

    Gobbledygook? Uh huh.

    Time to go watch "The Price is Right". That I understand. LOL.

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  10. heehee.. i'm no expert on schrodinger...or the cat..or gnosticism....

    i think it has to do w/a couple of wonky things in physics..? my halfwit knuckledraggin' understandin....

    one being that all possible states are possible until there is an observer, then the quazi/quantum state of whatever the little bugger is.. be it quark or mezon or any one of the 'particle zoo' or even the cat.. contracts into one reality when viewed by the observer. the observer, by observing the phenomenon effects the state of the matter. be that macro/micro. what that has ta do w/gnosticism.. well you tell me?

    it's weird. i think also... entanglement has something to do w/it also. entanglement entails.. on an atomic level; a set of twin spinning 'particles' considered entangled.. as they exhibit the same behavior, no matter their relative distance. if the 'spin' on one were reversed, somehow the other no matter where it was would also reverse its spin.


    well, the gnostic 'zoo' thing...commonalities exist, but there are as many differing gnostic philosophies as there are sects of xtianty.. or even religion in general. every different school of thought has their own spin..much as connor mentioned that his frame of reference was catholic xtian.

    wherein livergood's perennialism/gnosticism is more prot/xtian.

    in essence, the hallmark of gnosticism... the belief in the ultimate worth of mankind its potential for evolution on terrestrial/spiritual levels. their heresy was in their utter abhorrence of the concept of original sin.
    that hateful concept.. is where all the bad shit we deal with presently... starts. right there,

    for me it was/is an easter egg hunt... once you get the basic philos down, you find different 'eggs' in everything. not that i claim any understanding of it, on anything more than an elementary exoteric level, i intuit far more than i can reason.

    it can be viewed as simply knowledge.. and yeah, some do practice the search for knowledge as religion.
    i don't worship.. so that is quite an alien concept to me. my deity doesn't require it, nor request it. any deity that does demand such is not one i'd care to contemplate as the 'All'.

    i personally claim the Hermetic flavor w/my philo.
    minus any overt interest in kabbalah. i don't 'do' yahweh... other than as case-study in psychopathy.


    so since you asked another question... 2 more for you..

    the cliff notes as i call them...short/sweet.. to the point.

    The Kybalion
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/kyb/index.htm

    The Master Key
    http://taoism.about.com/od/themasterkey/a/MasterKey1.htm
    this is not, repeat not..' the secret' oprah has been hawking... i don't view the univ or the 'All' as santa claus. ;)

    The Master Key...is a more full 'plot synopsis' i found recently by a cat called Haanel... probably one of the Three Initiates' that wrote the Kybalion.. as the time frame jives for both.

    :P.. so happy reading :) i'm gonna shut up now... i've been blathering on too much :) although, i hope you find some good use for it :)

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  11. Hey Noor

    Kikz has given a way better answer then I could hope to give...

    I know it has something to do with physics, quantum physics and it is one of those conundrum kind of things....

    I mentioned Schrodinger because the series I suggested taking in is called Schrodinger's diary.

    Of Schrodinger's cat fame....

    I may have confused the issue more then clarified it?

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  12. Hey Kikz!

    thanks for that. All of it!

    Kikz

    " i think also... entanglement has something to do w/it also. entanglement entails.. on an atomic level; a set of twin spinning 'particles' considered entangled.. as they exhibit the same behavior, no matter their relative distance. if the 'spin' on one were reversed, somehow the other no matter where it was would also reverse its spin."

    this is a concept that I have come across and it utterly fascinates me.
    I stumbled across it in, of all places, a book by Peter Levenda.

    I believe the theory of entanglement and synchronicity are connected.

    I just have to work it out in my head, how it is so.
    That is I have to comprehend it as fully as I can.

    The Kybalion!!!
    Interesting that you mention that because I have an audio copy of it.

    I started listening to it one day and then...... forgot all about it.

    Still have it though and clearly need to get back to it.

    I get mailings from Mark Passio @ What on Earth is Really Happening
    that's how I came to get the audio file.


    Kikz that hateful concept.. is where all the bad shit we deal with presently... starts. right there

    Which of course starts with the granddaddy of all that the religion known as Judaism or radical Judaism as I believe I heard John Lash calling it.

    Wondering if he was differentiating radical or traditional judaism from some gnostic version of it?

    I don't know?

    I listened to this. Twice.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBgppWrdrh0&feature=related

    More bookmarks! I am freakin' giddy!

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  13. "Which of course starts with the granddaddy of all that the religion known as Judaism or radical Judaism as I believe I heard John Lash calling it.

    Wondering if he was differentiating radical or traditional judaism from some gnostic version of it?

    I don't know?"

    there was a differentiation.. made btwn the two. but i posit that the more moderate was swallowed whole by the fanatic.

    here's who he referenced...the zaddikim

    http://www.metahistory.org/LEX/lexicon_Z.php


    a sidebar on the quanta..my guess would be explained in gnostic allegory as the fluidity and open ended doctrine of freewill (superstate) w/acknowledgement of the interconnectedness of all... the entanglement...i think scynchronicity would fit too... ;)?

    sigh.. this is so much more fun/worthy... and much less draining than pondering the poo that is our culture at present...

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  14. Hey Kikz

    "sigh.. this is so much more fun/worthy... and much less draining than pondering the poo that is our culture at present..."

    I agree, 100 percent!
    It is worthy, because to me it feels like enlightenment.

    As if I am being......searching for the right word
    Empowered.
    Yes, that is it. Empowered and brightened and hopeful.
    If enough of us can break out of these control thought processes...
    things can change, things will change
    awareness, too comes to my mind.

    Sadly the everyday news has to be discussed.

    In a way it falls into the enlightenment category also.
    I know your thinking what the hell is she talkin' about?
    Seriously, if people can come to realize how false the msm version of reality is..... the paradigm shifts

    Isn't that very gnostic?

    "a sidebar on the quanta..my guess would be explained in gnostic allegory as the fluidity and open ended doctrine of freewill (superstate) w/acknowledgement of the interconnectedness of all... the entanglement...i think scynchronicity would fit too... ;)? "

    wow, you said a mouthful there!!!
    Getting the idea that your knowledge on this topic way surpasses my own.
    But, I am working on it. I'm working on it.

    You know, the thing of it is...
    Right now an atom somewhere else has turned with the change in awareness.

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  15. kikz

    btw MC has in older interview with John Lash available that I am listening to

    Sophia is Gaia

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  16. empowerment. i agree. it is... some kind of hope/peace.

    lash spoke of the telesti(sp) mission statement, as it were..empowerment. realization of the divinity (spark) within.. one's connection to it. secondarily, realization of one's freewill and claiming it as one's birthright. then, one can be said to be in a sense.. 'aimed'.. :)

    i view the freewill as the Creator's greatest gift. the freewill to reason, to choose. some w/in science claim this is illusion.. it may be, but i'm goin w/it. :)
    in that sense.. i am... aimed.

    self empowerment/freewill is the exact opposite of institutionalized religions. they sever the connection, the 'knowing' by the dogma of original sin, circumventing the gift by negation of it, demanding total obedience in thought/deed to their intercession between you and deity. what more encompassing control mechanism would they need...control of your terrestrial life and ultimately your eternal 'soul'?



    The universe is mental.

    As Above So Below.

    both, frm the kybalion. :)

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  17. "what more encompassing control mechanism would they need...control of your terrestrial life and ultimately your eternal 'soul'?"

    no wonder business, government and religion go together like hand and glove.

    Control of every facet of the human life
    It is evil. It really is

    sorry bout being tardy kikz! :)

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