Sunday, March 18, 2012

Another Day. Another Car Bomb. Another Security target

From a previous post- Turkish motives suggestive of an impending strike

Turkey had mentioned that they were going to close their embassy in Damascus but possibly leave another smaller one open in Aleppo- This consulate may have more to do with the Kurdish population, I must look into that and we will get to that into the Kurdish angle in another post.
It also may be a vital place of operation once the invasion has taken place. Buffer of no fly zone.

Here is what had been reported previously-

The Turkish foreign ministry statement said consular services at its embassy in Damascus would end at the end of office hours next Thursday, but the consulate in the second city of Aleppo would remain open.
Onto the latest-Explosion near security building in Aleppo
(that is the exact headline as it appears right now, expect that to change)


Aleppo is north of Damascus heading towards the Turkish border
Not far from Turkish provinces I had specifically mentioned in the other days post.
"Gaziantep, Sanliurfa and Kilis."
Provinces that were readying "refugee camps" Which you should read as camps for fighters.




Mohammed Saeed, an Aleppo resident, said a car bomb exploded near the Political Security Directorate in the city's central neighborhood of Suleimaniyeh. He said the neighborhood has a large Christian population.
From previous reading we know Aleppo has been an Assad loyalist area.


The British based Syrian Observatory for NATO group is in the know right away, relying on information from their terrorists

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which relies on an activist network in Syria, also said it was a car bomb. It said dead and injured were reported but gave no numbers.
The activists knew it was a car bomb and people were dead and injured

Yet, if one reads the article. After the explosion Syrian Security kept people away from the area.
From the resident of Aleppo-

Saeed said the explosion in Aleppo occurred around 1 p.m. (1100 GMT) and security forces started shooting in the air and cordoned off the area to prevent people from approaching. He said during that hour of the day, the area is usually crowded with people, especially on a Sunday, the first day of Syria's workweek.

"It was a strong explosion. It shook parts of the city," Saeed said, citing nearby residents. "White smoke was billowing from the area."

Saeed knew it was a strong explosion and that it shook parts of the city,but, he doesn't mention that it was a car bomb

Therefore one has to ask this question- How did the Syrian Observatory in Britain know it was a car bomb?

Sunday's explosion followed multiple car bombings in Damascus, which the western media is insisting on calling them "suicide bombings" I don't believe that to be the case. Which means I do not believe anyone died in the car that exploded. This is not required to detonate a car bomb, that can easily be done with remote control devices.

Suicide bombings are by and large western dramas. To promote the concept that individuals in the middle east are irrational and unstable.


Image from the BBC and a brief moment of truth

The BBC's Lina Sinjab in Damascus says it is hard to know who is behind the attacks, but they look like an attempt to weaken a regime which has seemed to reassert its control over the country in recent weeks.


If these attacks appear to be an attempt to weaken the Syrian government how is it hard to know who is behind the attacks? Given that Syria has been under attack for a year now?

Almost as if the reporter just can't say it.

Softening of targets


29 comments:

  1. Bishop Gregory III (Laham) Patriarch of the Church of Antioch , the spiritual leader of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church. described the two blasts as part of the barbarous criminal attack.

    As I have mentioned previously, the only reason the weasels in power in Russia have taken a hard stand over Syria is because of the strong support of Patriarch Kirill. There is a very strong connection between ROC and the Syriac Orthodox Church, a red line has now been drawn after it's failure to support it's brethern in Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, Iraq. You can hear it mentioned frequently by Lavarov when he says "We do not support the regime, we support it's people". There is a strong friendship bond between Kirill and Ignatius Zakka I, the Syriac Orthodox Church Patriarch of Antioch and All the East.

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    1. thanks anon again, I rarely make the religious connections
      more a lack of time, I guess
      Also my non religious brain finds it difficult to make the connections.

      Not non spiritual, just non organized religion

      Keep on making the connections here, it helps us all to get a fuller/broader picture/understanding of what is ongoing
      Thanks

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  2. Tourists should boycott Turkey!

    - Aangirfan

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  3. Given that the perps are so quick to call the explosions 'car bombs', one has to wonder if they are in fact something else altogether. Cruise missiles, perhaps? Though, one would think they would be detectable by radar. There is definitely something screwy about these 'car bombs'

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    1. Hey James
      I am not thinking cruise missiles...
      Though anything is possible, one would just think there would have been multiple eye witnesses to that by now

      Perhaps it is a certain type of explosive?
      Perhaps beside the car,explosive are left inside the buildings?
      I don't know, just speculating..

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  4. Yeah James.

    I'm confused too. Reminds me of Oklahoma City. The damage is not concentrated around one (car bomb) source and instead all the walls on all floors seem to be blown out with the same amount of force. Shouldn't there be portions where the wall is intact (like upper floors on corners) and other areas where there is more structural damage because of proximity to the blast? Seems odd.

    Also, some of the body parts look odd--like they were dug up recently and placed on the scene. Thankfully I don't have first hand experience so maybe that’s what it looks like after explosion and burning. Plus, the bodies don’t look easily identifiable. The one guy’s head is burned beyond recognition but the jacket is largely unburned. Were the bodies/parts placed there?

    The timing is also odd. Is 7:20 a.m. really a busy time in Syria? At this spot? I suspect not, as if this was timed to avoid people. Also, I don’t see the connection to the state target. SANA reports the one building is residential and these seem to be largely street bombs. I imagine mostly other motorists and pedestrians were killed, and then some in the buildings. Do we have a breakdown?

    The whole thing seems odd.

    But the most obvious theory is that foreign terrorists staged a real attack and SANA has correctly reported it as such. I’m having trouble finding a motive, means, and opportunity for other theories but the whole scene is odd.

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    1. Hey WWM

      the bombings took place around 1:00 pm Sunday Afternoon
      Syrian time

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    2. Thanks Penny.

      I was talking about the Saturday incident, were you?: http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2012/03/18/406591.htm

      "A statement of the Interior Ministry said that Damascus was hit on Saturday with two booby-trapped car terrorist attacks carried out by two suicide bombers, which caused the martyrdom of 24 people, while the remains of three other martyrs were found and 140 others were injured, including civilian citizens and law enforcement personnel.

      The statement explained that the first explosion took place at 07: 20 am at al-Jamarek (customs) roundabout, and a few minutes later the second explosion occurred in al-Tahrir square that links Baghdad Street with al-Qassaa region."

      So I was mostly referring to the customs roundabout attack, although the other incidents also have similar oddities, like the blasts not looking like car bomb blasts. And Saturday is still a workday there, right?

      Also, I just became aware of SANA and wonder if it can be tampered with by the West. Interesting to go back and look at the articles on Marie Colvin. They don't say anything about her body, nothing about nails, there's no reference to an autopsy, but do talk about "competent authorities" recovering her body and describe taking her body to the teaching hospital and we see other photos of the Red Crescent handover.

      Anyway, it's good to finally see the "official" Syrian position on things. Not that I accept it as the truth, but it's suspicious when the West tries to totally silence its victims/adversaries.

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    3. And I realized I meant to post in the other thread about the Saturday attacks and not the Sunday attacks referenced here. Sorry!

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    4. According to Wikipedia, the weekend in Syria is Friday to Saturday, so I imagine it's not going to be terribly crowded on a Saturday morning at 7:20 (but this is a guess).

      It's also odd that the SANA story talks about the martyrdom of 24 people, while 3 other bodies were also found. What does that mean? I assume it's a bad translation. Or we need more detail.

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    5. WWM,

      There were two attacks minutes apart which took place on Saturday 17th March (a weekend for Syria) both reportedly 'car bombs' in Damascus. The attacks on Sunday 18th March were also claimed to be 'car bombs' only this time it occured in Aleppo and Sunday being the start of the work week for people in Syria.

      Typically, shops open at 8am unlike in the west at 9am. Besides that there is always alot of people out and about especially in major cities like Damascus and Aleppo.

      SANA reported the blasts "which caused the martyrdom of 24 people, while the remains of three other martyrs were found and 140 others were injured" so in total 27 killed. Another source states "Twin blasts minutes apart in the capital, Damascus, killed 27 people and wounded more than 100 on Saturday" via http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/tag/syria/

      Hope that eliminates the confusion.

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    6. WWM

      AS LB informed us Damascus and Aleppo are large cities, so people would be out at all different hours

      This would be similar in any large city in North America
      In Canada, Toronto comes to mind. That place is running transit 24/7

      Do you attend Farmer's Markets or things like that?

      Most of them open at about 6:00 to 7:00am on a Saturday morning around where I live and 100's show up

      So many people being out in the street early Saturday morning, which would likely be a "shopping day" for many
      is a reality.

      ON Sunday the bomb was set to go off later. 1:00 pm
      I understand from my reading this was a predominantly christian area?
      If LB wants to shed some light on that, please do?
      What came to my mind on that time?
      If that is anything like here?
      That would be the time when most Christian religious services end and people leave the churches and go to restaurants and coffee shops to visit and chat.

      In my area there are restaurants that offer specific menu items to the after church crowd.

      I am not saying that is the case, I am just saying that is what came to my mind with the time frame of that attack

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    7. Penny,

      That is correct, it is a predominately Christian area (Al-Sulaymaniyah).

      I am not too sure about what they do after attending church, however, Syria as a whole no matter which city I went to never slept. Literally, many shops (retail/food/anything you can imagine) stay open til midnight and even some work around the clock. Those people never slept. It is truely unique because here in Australia, people are home bound by 7pm when they get home from work.

      SANA reported that the blasts took place "near the Latin Church and two preliminary and preparatory schools in the abovementioned neighborhood." Many other sources also claim the abovementioned locations.

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    8. Thanks for the local information L.B. I love reading this stuff.

      Be interesting to hear even more information about those particular places. Would people have been inside the "security" buildings?

      I'm still confused about the description of the dead. Why did they separate the 24 from the 3? Is there a distinction? They made it seem like 3 bodies were recovered that were not victims of the attack. Are they saying the 3 bodies were perps?

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    9. You're welcome WWM.

      I am not certain that people were in the building, given that the attack on security buildings occurred on a Saturday (weekend), then again, I would assume that like any security/intelligence buildings like police stations/military bases these buildings are never unattended. If no one was working that day, I can guarentee that there were soldiers/police guarding the premises. As i mentioned earlier, alot of the dead were soldiers.

      As for the seperation from the 24 and 3 dead, as posted earlier from information from SANA, "24 people, while the remains of three other martyrs were found" they were remains, boy have we seen alot of unidentifiable bodies/body parts. Could probably not even been identified. They weren't bodies, they were remains.

      Thats my take on it.

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  5. Goodness...This is just annoying and pure hypocricy.

    My heart goes out to those who have lost loved ones without any jutifiable reason and I can only hope that God protects the remaining people including my family. Its just heartbreaking. When will it end? We wake up and sleep to the news awaiting a new bomb/massacre/lie/...The list is endless!

    As I mentioned before, the refugees in Turkey covering their faces, now these unusual mass destruction 'car bombs'. They look nothing of the sort. Mass meltdown, buildings crumbling...what kind of car bomb has that amount of force? What they say does not match what you see. Hence, it is a complete lie.

    Watching footage of the city, we saw that the majority of residents being rescued were the elderly in wheelchairs and walking sticks. Alot of those who died were soldiers...would the military really go on a killing rampage of soldiers when they're on the same side? Al-arabyia and Al-jazeera show footage of activists who are clothed like any civilian shooting, carrying all sorts of machinary...but never do they once mention that these are criminals...ABSURD!

    Each 'car bomb' that has occurred in the last three days are extremely questionable. They were showing activists who were throwing rocks at the military who were guarding the air force intelligence building and the criminal security department (which is of course their right to do so), but then comes the sounds of guns and shooting...yet hundreds of people just stood there. Now in reality (when not scripted) you hear a gunshot or worse several gunshots for a period of one minute the first thing you will do is run and keep running just like Forest Gump did. But they stood...walked casually, looked around, bit of chit-chat then boom a young boy has died...yet only about five men seemed to worry about the kid, whilst the remaining hundreds surrounding them stood there didnt move an inch to get themselves into safety. Just insane!

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    1. LB:
      Do you have family near or in the vicinity?

      If you feel like sharing please do. If not that is ok too
      Oddly enough having blogged on this destabilization for over a year now. I often think of the people, just going about their lives and how scary this has to be every single day.
      Hubby read me some news this am, while I was busily getting the day started
      And I said those poor people....
      Soon people will realize the "powerful People" are just scum
      It has to happen and we must stop empowering them.

      The video you are referencing can you leave a link?

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    2. Hey Penny,

      Fortunately I do not. I do have Aunts, Uncles, cousins and I have cousins who are in the military based on the Iraqi borders who cannot get in touch with their families, however, my relatives reside in Tartous. We speak to our relatives almost daily to check up...and its just so stressful. They know the channels fabricating - Syrians aren't so uneducated. The five year old knows about the conspiracy!

      My relatives are lucky that not much has happened in their city - besides odd bits but are home bound by the late afternoon. I have been many times, and I have never seen such security and peace in my life! People walk at 3,4,5am without anyone harrassing them, people never sleep...now all i hear is that by 7pm we don't go out and wont dare catch the bus coaches (Pall Mall etc) because theyre too terrified! Such a shame to happen. Prisoners in their own country.

      Penny, when i found your blog...I was sooooo over the moon! I thought could this be true? Couldn't tell the truth from the lies! But you have been so diligent and concise with your information I come here to vent and calm down after a whole evening stuck on the tv with my husband, cursing Aljazeera and Alarabiya for the continuous lies and their failure to report Gaza (a whole year on Syria never one mention about the imprisonment and deaths of Gaza civilians...oh and tonight the death of soldiers and civilians labelled 'jewish' kids shot in France...the "ATTACKER MUST BE A SERIAL KILLER". I think its Sarkozy in disguise. That is just comedic. UGH!

      The video: Took a while to find, but here it is. If you notice in the background heaps of people just doing nothing but standing there whilst heavy shooting takes place. Strange. Now looking at it for a second time there is more to show than what Alarabiya depicted. Regardless seems overcrowded for a place heavily under fire from the 'security forces'.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEV0SZcpAt8&feature=player_embedded

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    3. Penny,

      Are you from Syria? Or just extremely passionate to discover the truth? Either way much praise to you!

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    4. Hi LB

      Just extremely passionate to discover the truth. To the best of my abilities, that is.

      Thanks for appreciating that all.
      I may stumble at some point in time..... who knows?
      But for now I spend alot of time reading from a variety of resources and try to pick out what makes sense

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    5. There are many questionable videos. I am convinced the majority of them are faked or staged. There are just so many that it's impossible to debunk them all and megaphone of the Western media is so powerful it drowns out the truth.

      Most of these videos are suspicious if one simply applies basic logic and analyzes the images. Like you mention, we have seen sound piped into a number of videos. We've seen a number of journalists jumping into a car, supposedly under fire, and speeding away as the sound of fire is repeated at the same volume and sounding the exact same.

      You're absolutely right though, any unarmed person that shows up to a crime scene, or a confusing scene with explosions and dead people, are going to react instinctively if shots are fired. They are not going to just stand around dumbfounded. We have seen enough real images of people facing live fire to see what it looks like--people are moving as fast as they can, their arms and legs are pumping as they run for cover. I applied this same logic to dispute Tyler Hick's images in the New York Times when his group was supposedly coming under artillery fire from the Syrian Army--they were not moving like their lives depended on it.

      Also, I just tried to find the video but I can't . . . of "activists" throwing rocks at tanks in Homs, I think, from maybe a week ago. The tanks were evidently firing live bullets and artillery but these brave souls were running up in front of the tanks and throwing rocks. I doubt it. I suspect the sound of shots was piped in. I can see someone maybe hiding behind a corner or attacking a tank surreptitiously, but I find it hard to believe that normal "protesters" are going to confront a tank shooting live bullets in such a way.

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    6. Watching the video LB links to, I agree it is faked:

      1. Notice the shaky camera movement. This is another common tactic. Makes the scene look more chaotic than it is. But there is no reason for the shaky movement this instance. Before they start retreating, he is basically only moving a few steps here or there as he films, and shouldn't be shaking the camera so much.

      2. All the filming of feet. It's like the "activists" have been instructed to show only snippets of action and then point the camera at the ground so they don't screw up by showing bad acting. They are Keeping It Simple Stupid.

      3. As LB mentions, this does not look like people facing the weapons we hear firing. They are standing around. There is a small group of what appear to be actors, running around and ducking for cover, while hundreds other people seem oblivious to the danger.

      4. The images of the wounded are too convenient and look fake. We once again see just a glimpse of the actor playing dead/wounded (1:55), surrounded and partially obscured by a procession of frantic men carrying the wounded past the perfectly positioned camera man. I'm surprised they didn't show a taxi cab come speeding up and the wounded man hastily inserted--I love that touch!

      5. No evidence of bullets or artillery, etc. landing. With all that shooting I would expect to see bullets hitting the dirt, the walls, the fountain, etc. Instead, we just saw the one (or two) wounded people, a frantic group of 20 or so actors, and a truck that sped up. The army opens fire at about :35 and I don't see any evidence of any bullets hitting even though there is a lot of sound. With that much sound there would have to be a lot of bullets flying.

      6. The geography of this "battle" does not make sense. That appears to be the Syrian Army in the first 35 seconds or so of the video but the shooting doesn't appear to be coming from them and the route the rebels take in retreat doesn't make sense. There are people standing around right in the line of fire from where the Syrian army would be but the rebels have retreated down a side street but are dodging imaginary attacks. If you plotted it on a map it wouldn't make sense.

      Yet another fake video.

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    7. Thanks WWM for a better breakdown of the video clip which is obviously fake.


      THE LIES

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3LEqoxMqyI

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lWB5ssifTg&feature=related

      http://english.alarabiya.net/views/2012/01/29/191213.html

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      THE TRUTH

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dswFz1LYkik&feature=related&skipcontrinter=1

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x--Td_8JXYk


      I don't know what more one can say. I feel sickened by how animalistic these terrorists are. I saw footage on Syrian News put forth by Walid al-Muallem a while ago of these terrorists literally dumping bodies off bridges into a shallow river. None of this is shown in the western media heck not even the arab media - and even if it was shown they will blatantly lie to you and tell you that it was the regime/security forces of Assad.

      I relate it to trying to convince a liar of him committing something wrong. They will never confess/admit to their wrong doing, instead they will blame it on the other(s). So, its a no-win situation and the innocent people have been tossed into this salad of lies and deception.

      Quote: "Credibility is a form of wealth. Everyone has access to some credibility. If credibility is squandered, believers are less readily available — but "there is a sucker born every minute". This is reassuring only for persons who are content to continually populate their lives with newly-born "suckers"."

      "If one wishes to be believed when speaking the truth, one must have credibility. Credibility is also required if one is to be believed when lying."

      Ben Best

      Aljazeera and Alarabiya and all of those nations that opposed Syria are complete liars. And if one tells the truth, they kick him out just like they did with Al-Dabi and again lie to you and tell you he resigned. Al-Dabi stated that I will not lie, it is against my religion and I will not lie because I am cheating myself. So when he spoke the truth he was silenced. http://lizzie-phelan.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/al-dabi-resigns-from-observer-mission.html

      Enough ranting, hope this ends soon.

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    8. Yep, completely fake, but no doubt retweeted everywhere by the fake liberals of The Guardian, showing, er absolutely nothing, fake blood, fake gunshots, a few bits of rubbish burning, fake injuries, and to be followed by the fake published names of the dead. All done in Al Bayda, Benghazi Feb 2011 to great effect. Check it all out on YouTube

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  6. Thanks WWM for a better breakdown of the video clip which is obviously fake.


    THE LIES

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3LEqoxMqyI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lWB5ssifTg&feature=related

    http://english.alarabiya.net/views/2012/01/29/191213.html

    VS.

    THE TRUTH

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dswFz1LYkik&feature=related&skipcontrinter=1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x--Td_8JXYk


    I don't know what more one can say. I feel sickened by how animalistic these terrorists are. I saw footage on Syrian News put forth by Walid al-Muallem a while ago of these terrorists literally dumping bodies off bridges into a shallow river. None of this is shown in the western media heck not even the arab media - and even if it was shown they will blatantly lie to you and tell you that it was the regime/security forces of Assad.

    I relate it to trying to convince a liar of him committing something wrong. They will never confess/admit to their wrong doing, instead they will blame it on the other(s). So, its a no-win situation and the innocent people have been tossed into this salad of lies and deception.

    Quote: "Credibility is a form of wealth. Everyone has access to some credibility. If credibility is squandered, believers are less readily available — but "there is a sucker born every minute". This is reassuring only for persons who are content to continually populate their lives with newly-born "suckers"."

    "If one wishes to be believed when speaking the truth, one must have credibility. Credibility is also required if one is to be believed when lying."

    Ben Best

    Aljazeera and Alarabiya and all of those nations that opposed Syria are complete liars. And if one tells the truth, they kick him out just like they did with Al-Dabi and again lie to you and tell you he resigned. Al-Dabi stated that I will not lie, it is against my religion and I will not lie because I am cheating myself. So when he spoke the truth he was silenced. http://lizzie-phelan.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/al-dabi-resigns-from-observer-mission.html

    Enough ranting, hope this ends soon.

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    1. I like that quote too LB!

      "Credibility is a form of wealth. Everyone has access to some credibility. If credibility is squandered, believers are less readily available — but "there is a sucker born every minute". This is reassuring only for persons who are content to continually populate their lives with newly-born "suckers"."

      "If one wishes to be believed when speaking the truth, one must have credibility. Credibility is also required if one is to be believed when lying."

      There is not a lot that is credible these days. Sad, isn't it?

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    2. It is maddening LB. As intended. It's shock and awe and terrorism.

      I really am disgusted by the lies. Especially as an American I realize the primary role my country has in spreading war and fascism.

      I wish I could stop it but I am relatively powerless.

      It's good to have outlets like this where we can at least note the truth.

      Thanks for linking to the video and I will check out the other vids.

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  7. Hi LB

    Well blogger got your comments in the spam box, damned if I know the reason

    Seems to have gotten three of them and I missed it yesterday
    Sorry :(
    I see you tried twice, so I let them both through...
    If you wish to delete on go ahead and if not thats ok

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