Friday, June 15, 2012

US completes military planning for Syria- Civil war designation and more

I am going to be updating this post...stay tuned

Updates at Bottom

The U.S. military has completed its own planning for how American troops would conduct a variety of operations against Syria, or to assist neighboring countries in the event action was ordered, officials tell CNN.

The planning comes as the U.S. has become increasingly concerned that the violence in Syria is verging on civil war.(Is it? Or is this narrative politically feasible for launching an attack? I will address that in an update) Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the recent series of bombings have heightened the worry.

Dempsey said it reminded him of the escalating violence during the Iraq war.
The violence "gives us all pause that have been in Iraq and seen how these issues become sectarian and then they become civil wars and then they become very difficult to resolve," Dempsey told CNN in an exclusive interview on Thursday.

A senior U.S. official said the developments have been a matter of discussion in the Obama administration.
"There is a sense that if the sectarian violence in Syria grows, it could be worse than what we saw in Iraq," the official said. (After the US destroyed Iraq and fomented the sectarian violence)

The military planning includes a scenario for a no-fly zone as well as protecting chemical and biological sites. Officials say all the scenarios would be difficult to enact and involve large numbers of U.S. troops and extended operations.

The U.S. Navy is maintaining a presence of three surface combatants and a submarine in the eastern Mediterranean to conduct electronic surveillance and reconnaissance on the Syrian regime, a senior Pentagon official said. The official emphasized that the U.S. routinely maintains this type of naval presence in the eastern Mediterranean, but acknowledged the current focus is on Syria.
The United States, Britain and France have all been discussing contingency scenarios, potential training and sharing of intelligence about what is happening in Syria with neighboring countries including Jordan, Turkey and Israel.

The U.S. has been training in Jordan using mainly special operations forces under a program called Joint Combined Exchange Training, which sends troops overseas to train foreign soldiers and units in specific missions.  

Flashback: I covered that months ago! In fact just over 6 months ago in a post dated December 13/201. Syria: The beat goes on Part 3

The paragraph from the article linked in that piece was the clue something was afoot:

USSF Soldiers were in Jordan as part of a Joint Combined Exchange Training exercise, or JCET, with Jordanian forces. These types of exercises are designed to provide training opportunities for American Special Forces in countries that the forces may one day have to operate in, as well as providing training opportunities for the armed forces of the host country.
Back to the CNN article:

While there's no formal agreement, one of the U.S. officials said the U.S. would come to the defense and support of Jordan in the event any of the Syria scenarios pose a challenge.

While there is no current scenario for putting U.S. troops on the ground in Jordan or Syria, the U.S. could wind up providing air support to move Jordanian troops to the border.

US troops are already  present in Jordan. They have almost certainly been operating as agents of destabilization in Syria. So the above claim of "no current scenario" is nonsense.

I was just thinking to myself "If I read one more article that spins Israel is not happy about what is going on in Syria" I will scream! 
Israel is very happy. Israel is jumping for joy. Israel is going to benefit big time, in so many ways. 
Water. Land. Power. Israel is positively drooling over the prospect of the destruction of Syria.
Of course I am referring to the government. The populace may be a bit concerned. 

Then SAJ left this timely link. Thanks SAJ.
Israel lobby celebrates Treasury’s successful use of “financial tools” to support Arab Spring 

 Check back for updates! 

Update # 1- 

I mentioned the "civil war" angle. What does it matter?

 Civil War Designation for Syria Would Trigger Humanitarian Protections 

But what changes if the world deems the 15-month-old conflict a civil war? 

Georgetown University Law Center adjunct professor Gary Solis says a civil war designation would trigger the Geneva Conventions on conducting war, specifically protections in Common Article 3. "And Common Article 3 provides basic protections for those who are out of the combat, for example, soldiers who have surrendered or who have been wounded and are captured; for civilians; for any non-combatants. Common Article 3 provides basic protections and that is why it is so important. 

And so to say there is a civil war suggests that Common Article 3 now applies and that is significant of course for the victims of the civil war," said Solis. But Solis adds a very important caveat. "The problem, however, is that there is no supra-national body, including the U.N., that can say with authority, 'all right this is a civil war; this is not a civil war.' 

There is no international body which can give a binding opinion that this is indeed a civil war," Solis explained. 

Russia Sending Air and Sea Defenses to Syria (allegedly)

Don't know what to make of this after the Hillary whirlybird fabrication?

“I would like to say these mechanisms are really a good means of defense, a reliable defense against attacks from the air or sea,” Anatoly P. Isaykin, the general director of the company, Rosoboronexport, said Friday in an interview. “This is not a threat, but whoever is planning an attack should think about this.”
 Mr. Isaykin, a powerful figure in Russia’s military industry, openly discussed the weapons now being shipped to Syria: the Pantsyr-S1, a radar-guided missile and artillery system capable of hitting warplanes at altitudes well above those typically flown during bombing sorties, and up to 12 miles away; Buk-M2 antiaircraft missiles, capable of striking airplanes at even higher altitudes, up to 82,000 feet, and at longer ranges; and land-based Bastion antiship missiles that can fire at targets 180 miles from the coast. 


  1. The chemical weapons propaganda trump card we had been fearing is being played today.....

    "A video posted online by activists in the town of Heet, in the southern province of Deraa, showed the bodies of some of the 13 people reportedly killed there.

    Some of the bodies were said to show unusual scorch marks, which the activists said had come from chemical weapons, which they believed were used by government forces in at least four different parts of the country.
    UN observers also visited the town of Haffa, in the Mediterranean province of Latakia, a day after the Syrian authorities said it had been cleansed....."

  2. I have been thinking again (dangerous) that the real assault or even air strikes or land invasion might take place in August, during the Olympics, while the world's media are focusing on the spectacle and a lot less on politics - it would be good time to do it - heat of the summer - a lot of people away on holiday - parliaments on recess - everyone watching the Olympics.

    Just a thought.

  3. Replies
    1. From the Russia Sending Air and Sea Defenses to Syria article...

      "Moscow has declined to supply Syria with its most lethal air defense, the S-300 long-range missile system.

      “As far as I understand, Syria is not able to defend itself from NATO, just like it failed to defend its nuclear facility from Israel’s September 2007 airstrike,”"

      well, why don’t they have the S-300?? I was under the impression the Russians had already secretly supplied Syria with the S-300 missile system along with some advisors to share their expertise..

      Israel may use military force ‘to secure’ Syria’s alleged chemical arsenal

      Syria has never declared it possesses chemical weapons stocks, but the Israeli military does not put its existence under question...

      Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz believes the world should unite to crush Assad’s regime, the same as it did in Libya..

      "Since in the not-distant past the powers chose military intervention in Libya, here the required conclusion would be immediate military intervention to bring down the Assad regime,” he said.

      But he made it clear that Israel would not take part in the intervention. "We cannot get involved, for understandable reasons. But I think that the West, led by the United States, has an interest in guarding the threshold.."

      Benjamin Netanyahu... added that the less he says about it as prime minister of Israel, the better.

      East-West Standoff over Syria and Iran: Explosive Diplomacy and Brinkmanship at the Brink of World War III.

      [bit offtopic]

      U.S. Threatens Pakistan: Drop Iran Pipeline (US WANTS ISRAEL TAPI GAS PIPELINE IN PLACE BY 2014 [Link])

  4. journalist Anhar Kochneva reports on HOMS

    'Especially kidnappings are more and more a part of the dirty business of “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) and of the associated armed gangs.'

    freedom fighters? peaceful protestors? or criminal gangs backed by Riyadh Washington and Telaviv?

    also IF US can claim to be building a missile shield to defend russia can build defence forces to defend syria

  5. mother Agnes on Syria massacres of christians:
    the interviewer says he was with FSA an they claimed not to be behind HOMS massacre....but what does such a denial mean? would they say to the jounro: yes we killed christians? or is there a third force in syria with their own agenda?
    Journo brazenly asserts: there will be people seeing this who say you are lying....Well whats to say you and your FSA men arent lying?

  6. Syrian Armenians support President Bashar Al-Assad
    from march 2011


    A nun (Mother Agnes of Catholic Media Centre) at a Syrian Christian monastery says eyewitnesses saw militants take corpses from a hospital near Houla and pile them in a mosque to convince UN observers that a massacre had occurred.
    The interview with the nun was shown on RT today at the 1'o'clock news. Its very interesting what she has to say - she probably will be in the FSA, AlQaeda hit list now!

    Also RT reported Russia had troops and ships ready to go to Syria and a ship is on its way to TArtous carrying troops and equipment which the USA is "monitoring". Things are heating up now but the spanner in the works will be the instability in Saudi after the death of Nayef. God willing the Saudis and their backers pay a heavy price for all the death and mayhem they have caused everywhere.

    Posted by: Irshad | Jun 16, 2012 1:37:41 PM | 69

  8. For a comprehensive briefing and analysis of the situation in the Middle East, please read my article below. The article is based on my briefings of a number of European members of Parliament.
    Warm regards, peace and solidarity.
    Dr. Christof Lehmann

    East-West Standoff over Syria and Iran: Explosive Diplomacy and Brinkmanship at the Brink of World War III.
    The systematic Manufacturing of War, challenging Russia and China in Race for either Global Full Spectrum Dominance or Global Full Spectrum Devastation. A Comprehensive Analysis.

  9. Russia denies Syria-bound warship reports

    “The ship is in the state of instant readiness for departure like all of the fleet’s warships. There are no marines aboard the ship and there were no commands for a voyage towards Syria. The crews are engaged in day-to-day activities,” the source said.

    The Cesar Kunikov large landing ship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, which is returning from Italian Messina to base, passed the Bosporus Strait on Friday. It will return to Sevastopol on Saturday, the source said.

    Russian warships not heading for Syria - agency

    "All the ships are staying in Sevastopol but the Cesar Kunikov large landing ship. Either the U.S. intelligence service works poorly or they have a poor knowledge of geography,"

    Syria: A Russian messenger missile


  11. Brian and SAJ: as always thanks so much for leaving all those good reads. I am certain other people are reading them to :)

    NSNBC: very good piece. I want to come back and reread it.
    I liked the Mavi Marmara angle. Knew that one stunk to high heaven.
    Not at first, but, after a while.....and some additional posts
    Something was "rotten in Denmark"

  12. how western imperialism works

  13. next time you see videos alleging syrian army atrocities...consider this:
    'Waqqaf: If you go very far away in fabricating things that are happening on the ground, it is not only enough for the Syrian people to know exactly what is happening but when Syrian television and Syrian satellite channels show certain realities on the ground, then the surrounding environment, the Arab world or the Western environment should not really know what is really happening.

    So for example, Syrian television has been, for the past few weeks, showing certain videos, unedited videos, that were captured after an operation of the Syrian army in Baba Amr in Homs and those edited videos reveal that the culprits of the videos, we had seen before on YouTube, claiming that the Syrian Army is doing this atrocity or committing that atrocity, when you see the unedited video which is like ten times longer [than the edited ones] you see that the armed groups are the ones who are actually doing this and they are, you know, quite happy about doing it.

    They shout Allaho Akbar [God is great] and then they Laugh, but when you have the video on YouTube, you know, the laughing is cut for example.

    The Arab world should not really see these things because they should not question the story that has been presented to them from the very beginning by the likes of Aljazeera and Alarabiya. That is why they wanted to shutdown the Syrian satellite TV channels and again there are now indications that a new chapter of the propaganda is going to take place which is about inciting a full scale civil war in Syria.

  14. FYI


    nsnbc is investigating foreign involvement into the financing and delivering of illegal arms shipments to insurgents in Syria. nsnbc is encouraging any witnesses, whistle-blowers, and others with relevant evidence or documentation about the illegal arms trafficking to insurgents in Syria to come forward and contact nsnbc. If necessary, nsnbc guaranties the best possible protection of witnesses and whistle-blowers identity.

    nsnbc is particularly interested in information pertaining:

    The name of the German, Stuttgart based Security Firm, information about it´s involvement, insider information about recruitment procedures and other information that can lead to clarification of the full scope of it´s involvement in arming insurgents in Syria.
    Foreign Military Forces. Any information that can lead to the identification of the foreign military forces which are deployed in Syria in violation of international law.
    Saad Hariri. Any information that can contribute to clarifying the full scope of the involvement of Saad Hariri in materially supporting insurgents in Syria, including money transfers, weapons trade, transports etc.
    Walid Jumblatt. Any information that can provide evidence and details of Walid Jumblatt´s involvement into arms shipments to insurgents in Syria. Of particular interest is arms trafficking of Israeli Arms via Raphael Industries.
    Raphael Industries. Any information and documentation that clarifies the involvement of the Israeli Raphael Industry in arms shipments to insurgents in Syria.
    Governmental Involvement. Any information that leads to clarification of the involvement of governments, governments functionaries and/or officials into illegal arms deliveries to insurgents in Syria. Of particular interest are the following countries. USA, UK, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Libya, Denmark, Bahrain, Germany, France, Jordan, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Lebanon, United Arab Emirates, Israel.