Thursday, July 5, 2012

Syria: An overview & the Israeli view

Interesting interview, about 25 minutes in length.




Discussing the Syrian situation on a broader scale then the soundbites and simplistic black/white  presentations produced by the presstitutes in the main stream media. 
I do not agree with Pepe entirely and note he sticks close to the official main stream Arab Spring narrative about uprisings. There was only one uprising I felt to be truly legitimate, the uprising in Bahrain, which was brutally suppressed by that paragon of human rights and compassion.... Saudi Arabia. (facetious)


Pepe does briefly touch on Israel's interest in all this. Indeed, Israel is very, very interested.
Keeping that in mind, here is an interesting interview from "Americans for Peace Now"
A name that is very Orwellian. A double talk/ double speak sort of name. Obviously chosen to create a perception of being for Peace. I don't think so. Maybe that should have been spelled piece?
As in a piece of land?

Hard Questions, Tough Answers with Yossi Alpher

Who is Yossi Alpher?  Good Question.  Yossie Alpher appears, for all intents and purposes, to be a mouthpiece for Israeli intelligence

Just one question and the reply it garnered


Q. So, no compromise and the disintegration of Syria as we know it. Where does this leave Israel?

A. In the past two months, Israel has aligned its position with that of most of the Arab world and the international community, taking its distance from the Assad regime, decrying the bloodshed and calling for international intervention. In effect, the Netanyahu government has decided that any outcome is an improvement on the current regime insofar as the regime's demise would strike a serious blow at Iran's influence in the Levant and, in particular, weaken Hezbollah.

If, and when, Syria disintegrates, Israel will confront the challenge of protecting its strategic interests, for example by dealing militarily with Syria's huge missile and chemical warfare arsenal before it falls into the wrong hands or, conceivably, by hooking up with one or more beleaguered Syrian minorities. In this regard, Jerusalem would have to determine at what point it is no longer starting a war or "intervening" by entering Syrian territory militarily, but rather helping pick up the pieces.

Then too, if this scenario plays out, Turkey will be in the same strategic situation as Israel. Apparently, Turkey has already begun to protect its interests by establishing a de facto no-fly zone inside Syrian territory.

To the extent that this assessment is correct, it becomes all the more important for Israel and Turkey to coordinate their interests regarding Syria. That long-delayed Israeli apology for the unfortunate loss of Turkish lives in the May 2010 Mavi Marmara clash would be helpful. So too, perhaps, would the good offices of western third parties that enjoy good relations with both countries.




 
"Israel has aligned its position with most of the Arab World"

That would be the murderous Sunni/Muslim extremists and their paymasters in Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Qatar.

"decrying the bloodshed and calling for international intervention"

Decrying the bloodshed while calling for more bloodshed, on a massive scale

"Israel will confront the challenge of protecting its strategic interests, for example by dealing militarily"

Israel will attack Syria

" In this regard, Jerusalem would have to determine at what point it is no longer starting a war or "intervening" by entering Syrian territory militarily, but rather helping pick up the pieces.

Israel will attack Syria, because it is a helpful neighbour. You know, picking up pieces and all that.

" all the more important for Israel and Turkey to coordinate their interests regarding Syria."

 Israel and Turkey will coordinate efforts to attack Syria


"That long-delayed Israeli apology for the unfortunate loss of Turkish lives in the May 2010 Mavi Marmara clash would be helpful."

 Will the apology, so long delayed, be the signal that  an attack from the two caring neighbours is imminent?


  

11 comments:

  1. If, and when, Syria disintegrates.....

    Classic. Run a covert campaign of dirty tricks, terrorism and yellow journalism to ensure the disintegration of a nation.
    Then when it happens, you must bomb the crap out of that nations 'military' infrastructure to protect yourself from the insane rebels (the rebels you created, paid and unleashed) who cannot be trusted to restrain themselves from using the missiles and chemical weapons.....the same ones that Assad has not used on his neighbors.
    What a logic trip!

    So true about Bahrain being the only genuine Arab revolt, hence the total lack of western media coverage and the USA/UK support for its dirty leaders.

    PS The western media piggies are tempting and tantalizing us with a promised release of wikileaks emails on Syria. The fake Assange will once again be used to help the cause of war and fascism, while most people see him as a truth teller. Damn these NWO propagandists and their expert manipulation of all of us.

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    1. I couldn't agree more with your comment, anon.

      I thought exactly the same thing when I saw the story (and it is a STORY) about wikileaks revelations about Syria. The desired reaction is "ooohh here we go", but we always have to keep reminding ourselves that if we are hearing about it via mass media then it is coming from THEM - for their manipulative reasons.

      I don't know the details about Bahrain, but it makes perfect sense that if the mass media isn't talking about it, then it is probably a genuine revolt that is opposing a regime that is loyal and obedient to the Globalist Ruling Elite Empire.

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    2. Hi, thanks.

      http://wikileaks.org/syria-files/
      The puppet like stick man figure of Assad at wiki pretty much sums up how they are playing this one. Brutal.

      But the wikileaks psyop may have to wait a day or so for corporate media coverage, as the defecting General seems to be the talking point du jour.
      Right now CBC has 25 comments up on that story with 100% in favor of stupidity and war. They must have their private trolls for hire company ICUC Moderation Services doing some extra super vigilant censorship today. I just love knowing my tax dollars are used by CBC to contract their censorship function out to a private company that does perception management (trolls for hire) for big banks, big pharma and big oil.
      http://icucmoderation.com/#/welcome

      Anyways, lots of good comments from you here LVB. Cheers.

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    3. Don't know if you caught this tidbiot about Syrian itnle discovering the General's betrayal...

      Manaf Tlass is a commander of an elite unit in the Syrian army. Mustafa Tlass, his father, was a close friend of Bashar Assad's father, Hafez Assad, and served as his minister of defense and right-hand man for decades, despite being a member of a Sunni family. A source in the Syrian defense establishment confirmed the report, and claimed that Tlass fled after he discovered that the Syrian intelligence services found out that he is a member of the opposition and rebel forces.

      http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/report-top-syrian-officer-a-close-friend-of-assad-defects-and-flees-to-turkey-1.449089

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  2. Some very interesting news blurbs that probably require some reading between the lines, well not the Russian comments but the Israeli ones re Arafat? If indeed there is polonium what to make of the Litvinenko death and the rumored smuggling ring?
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/litvinenko-smuggled-nuclear-material-426266.html
    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/13m-euros-in-french-real-estate-seized-from-berezovsky/457769.html
    et...

    What does the Arafat story and Dubai have in common, if anything?
    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2010/0216/In-Dubai-hit-squad-used-Mossad-style-tactics-to-kill-Hamas-leader


    Meanwhile, Moscow on Syria...

    Moscow lashed out on Thursday at the Western position on Syria, saying it could aggravate the situation to the point of war. “Their [Western] position is most likely to exacerbate the situation, lead to further violence and ultimately a very big war,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said. The West has also distorted the Russian position on Syria by suggesting Moscow should offer Syrian President Bashar al-Assad asylum, he said. “This is either an unscrupulous attempt to mislead serious people who shape foreign policy or simply a misunderstanding of what is going on,” Lavrov said. He also warned that Russia will reject any UN Security Council peace enforcement resolution on Syria, since that would be “nothing but intervention.”

    And this from Xinhua re Arafat

    "However, Israeli Foreign Ministry officials on Thursday derided the reports. "All of a sudden, Suha's checking her wash basket and discovered clothes that weren't washed for eight years," Deputy Spokesman of Israeli Foreign Ministry Paul Hirschson told Xinhua. "Suddenly, out of nowhere a couple of garments turn up; we test them, and presto! There's Polonium," he said." "She's got the medical files; why doesn't she just publish them? " he asked, "I think the Israelis and the Palestinians deserve to know the truth." The Institute of Radiation Physics in Lausanne, Switzerland, told Israel Army radio that "There may not have been polonium on the clothing eight years ago, when he died." "The only way to know if the polonium affected him is to take samples from his body," said spokesman D'arsy Christian, according to Israel National News. Meanwhile, Avi Dichter, who headed the Shin Bet internal security agency at the time of Arafat's death, told Army radio on Wednesday that "Yasser Arafat had many enemies, domestically, abroad. But let them investigate... The Palestinians know well how to investigate what goes on in their house. Let them investigate and find out."

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  3. Hi Penny,

    "Americans for Peace Now" - A name that is very Orwellian. A double talk/ double speak sort of name. Obviously chosen to create a perception of being for Peace."


    Absolutely a classic demon-stration of the cognitive dissonance and doublespeak of the Empire:

    "WAR IS PEACE!!"

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    1. Hey LVB

      "Americans for Peace Now"

      Bomb Syria!

      very peaceful

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  4. Any info on the supposed defection of Manaf Tlas? I understand he is married into Saudi Money and I'm sure plenty is being offered to defectors. I'm surprised more haven't taken their 30 pieces of silver.

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  5. Basically #FSA filmed its own terrorists & followers to fool everyone into believing that they caught 'shabeeha' #Syria http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO7ATj4LLBk&feature=youtu.be

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  6. According to the FSA terrorists the circled kid is a shabeeh and one of Assad's informants and deserves to be punished http://pic.twitter.com/rvnvgPJT

    #FSA militia captured citizens of Saqleen in Idleb because they're pro #Syria & anti revolution, how democratic of them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeIGLHT3VK8

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