Wednesday, October 3, 2012

Turkey strikes Syria in "retaliation". Or as distraction? NATO meets

 This has to be considered a possible false flag. Or did Turkey undertake this attack to distract from the horrific attacks in Aleppo, Syria  today? The Aleppo attacks caused mass destruction and killed 50 people.

 It is entirely within the realm of possibility that NATO backed mercs lobbed the mortar bombs into Turkey, enabling Turkey to justify this so called retaliatory attack.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's office said Turkish forces in the border region immediately shelled Syrian targets spotted by radar Wednesday, in response to what it called a “heinous” attack on the Turkish town of Akcakale.

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu protested the Syrian attack to the NATO alliance, of which Ankara is a member, and to the United Nations.

A NATO official told VOA that alliance ambassadors were meeting in emergency session Wednesday to discuss the situation. 

How does Turkey know for certain the mortar fire originated with Syrian Army and not the NATO mercs?
How do we know this is not a false flag to kick start a Turkish/NATO invasion?


- Turkey's military struck targets inside Syria on Wednesday in response to a mortar bomb fired from Syrian territory which killed five Turkish civilians, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan's office said in a statement.

Davutoglu had also agreed with NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen on the need for an emergency meeting of NATO members, the statement said.

A mortar bomb fired from Syrian territory is NOT necessarily being fired by the Syrian military.

We know for the certain NATO mercs have mortar bombs 

Map of Turkey showing the town of Akcakale in Urfa province

The town of Akcakale is definitely a border town. The attack from Turkey towards Syria were aimed at the town of ????? (haven't found it yet)

Before launching its military strike against Syrian targets Wednesday, Turkey reached out to NATO and U.N. chiefs.

Selcuk Unal, a spokesman for the Turkish Foreign Ministry, told CNN that Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu had contacted the Arab League and U.N. special envoy for Syria, Lakhdar Brahimi, about the incident.

Davutoglu contacted NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen after the deadly shelling in Akcakale, NATO said.
 A senior U.S. defense official said the Pentagon is watching the situation with some degree of concern, "but at this point, there's nothing to suggest it's going to become a broader conflict."
The official said the reciprocal fire appeared to be a smaller-scale border skirmish rather than a large-scale aerial bombardment.
 Exactly my point, how does Turkey know for certain that the mortar fire did not originate with NATO mercs?

Also, Turkey, is for all intents and purpose waging war on Syria and has been for a dam long time now with the help of NATO countries. They are in no position to play victim!

Also why is Turkey engaging in this type of attack at this time? Mortar has crossed  the border previously. This time there were civilian casualties, sure, but Turkey has been actively promoting the ruin of Syria all along enabling mass civilian casualty counts.  And still there is no indication it was Syrian Army that fired this mortar
Washington Post 

From Syria regarding the above incident- SANA

Information Minister: Authorities in Syria Investigating Source of Gunfire That Claimed Lives of Turkish Woman and Her Children

DAMASCUS, (SANA) – Information Minister Omran al-Zoubi said on Wednesday that the relevant authorities in Syria are investigating the source of the gunfire that claimed the lives of a Turkish woman and her children, offering sincerest condolences on behalf of the Syrian government to the family of the deceased and the Turkish people.
"In case of border incidents that occur between any two neighboring countries, countries and governments must act wisely, rationally and responsibly, particularly since there's a special condition on the Syrian-Turkish borders in terms of the presence of undisciplined terrorist groups spread across the borders who have varying agendas and identities," the Minister told the Syrian TV, affirming that these groups constitute a threat to Syria's security and regional security.
Minister al-Zoubi stressed that the Syrian-Turkish borders are long and are being used to smuggle weapons, equipment and terrorists into Syria where they committed massacres, the latest such massacre being the one committed by Al Qaeda in Aleppo.
He said that Syria bases its conduct with neighboring countries on good neighborly relations and respecting the sovereignty of countries, and that Syria asks in return that its sovereignty be respected.

Pointing out that there was no condemnation from NATO on the attrocious attacks that took place in Aleppo today, courtesy of NATO's mercs who of course came into Syria via Turkey armed with the US funneled weapons

I saw Russia had condemned the action. Syria's political parties condemned the attrocities but NATO nations, surely cheered the handiwork of their terror crew. 50 dead. Abundant damage.

 Via the Hindu we read of people's militias formed in Aleppo to fight the NATO mercs

Analysts point out that despite the heavy damage and the panic that it has caused, the latest string of bombings is unlikely to shift the scales of fighting in Aleppo, where reports have surfaced about the formation of peoples’ militias to counter foreign extremists who have deeply infiltrated the ranks of the opposition fighters. 

  Of course this makes me think of Tozz. Who I still hope is safe.

This post now has a follow up with the latest info

Turkey Continues Shelling Syria! No let up yet


  1. So it appears Turkey has invoked article 4 of the NATO treaty again.

    This is the 3rd time in NATOs history the alliance has been convened to consult about the security of a member, and Turkey has made the request each time, during the recent Iraq war, this summer after its F-4 airplane was shot down by Syria, and now.

    Notice also the timing of this shelling and the NATO meeting--it comes right after the terrorist attacks that killed dozens in Aleppo. The news about the terrorist attacks against Syria is now diminished as tension is ratcheted up yet again.

    1. WWM from your link

      "The shelling appeared to come from forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime, which is fighting rebels backed by Turkey."

      The shelling APPEARED to have come?????
      Shouldn't Turkey have verified this before attacking Syria?

      Also "fighting rebels backed by Turkey."

      No shit sherlock, which makes Turkey all along the aggressor and not the victim

      OH, yes, I noticed the attack took place right after the horrendous attack on Aleppo

      I am updating the post as quick as i can

  2. Of course Al Jazeera has some video of the aftermath of the alleged shelling. Looks like videos we've seen before. Amazing how there are cameras there before the ambulance even takes the injured away.

    I want to know why Syria would fire only one mortar? If they were going to irrationally fire mortars at Turkey in retaliation or something, wouldn't they have given them a good barrage? What possible motive did Syria have? It certainly doesn't seem consistent with their previous conduct. If anything, Syria has been restrained when provoked and I doubt they would finally lash out in this manner.

    False flag indeed. That has to be the operating assumption.

    1. "False flag indeed. That has to be the operating assumption"

      It does have to be the operating assumption. When one considers how hot NATO is to take down Syria, for so long now...
      All one can do is consider all the ways that they will get his started
      The bastards and Hillary the evil!

    2. Oh, I guess the WSJ reported Erdogan's office claimed 3 mortars hit the town and that the Syrian army had recently been shelling FSA forces near there.

      So it's obvious to them who did it. Hillary and gang are making threats while reporters are predicting NATO won't agree to Article 5. Romney and other politicians will give Obama a hard time for going easy on Syria and not pushing for Article 5 help, etc.

      The West is already openly funding the opposition in Syria, and engaging in other acts of war, so it's not like they compelled to follow the legal rules anyway.

  3. Sounds exactly like the Markale marketplace bombings in Bosnia.

    UN and Russian investigators who had seen hundreds of mortar attacks found that, strangely, there was no crater to indicate any evidence of a mortar round exploding there. And witnesses saw Mujahideen in plain clothes putting "something" into the trash bins in the marketplace immediately prior to the bombings, etc.

    Syria is being set up, framed and provoked - but then, we already knew this, didn't we?

    Very sad to see that NATO is still at it, and they won't stop. They will just wait, and orchestrate more and worse atrocities until they get their way - they don't care about the bodycount, or how many innocents die for their evil plans. In fact, they depend on it as a means to do what they want to do.

  4. The following is a partial description of some of the work done by special forces under the rubric of what we call “unconventional warfare”. Most of the world would call it something else…
    “A broad spectrum of military and paramilitary operations, normally of long duration, predominantly conducted through, with, or by indigenous or surrogate forces who are organized, trained, equipped, supported, and directed in varying degrees by an external source. It includes, but is not limited to, guerrilla warfare, subversion, sabotage, intelligence activities, and unconventional assisted recovery”
    “The U.S. defines sabotage as “an act or acts with intent to injure, interfere with, or obstruct the national defense of a country by willfully injuring or destroying, or attempting to injure or destroy, any national defense or war materiel, premises, or utilities, to include human and natural resources.”
    “Subversion is formally defined as “action designed to undermine the military, economic, psychological, or political strength or morale of a regime.” Wikipedia page on unconventional warfare

  5. Russia probably knew of the impending false flag.

    Russia warns Turkey, Syria over tensions near border [03-10-12]

    "Both Syrian and Turkish authorities “should exercise maximum restraint” since radical members of the Syrian opposition might deliberately provoke cross-border conflicts for their own benefits, Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov said yesterday. The diplomat said Moscow has been worrying about the situation on the Syria-Turkey border."

    1. Yeah, I see the date and like the interesting comments too