Friday, November 30, 2012

Syria Offline: Who benefits? Friends of Muslim Brotherhood meet in Japan


First, Syria offline???
Would the Syrian government undertake this action?
Would NATO and it’s ilk undertake this action?
Who was the most to gain?
Who has the most to lose?
What other factors are at play?

As of this moment, I can’t see the gain to the Syrian government in denying internet and cell phone access to it’s people. I can, however, see the benefit accruing to the NATO brigade, particularly, if a NATO attack is on the horizon.
Quoting from CNN and the NYT's

A few points to consider before reading from the msm articles

1- As an act of psychological terror against the Syrian people, denying them their outside contact.
 This does not benefit the Syrian government but plays into the hand of the NATO mercs
2-The shutdown has made it possible to scrutinize how the Syrian government stays on line.
 and work to get them shutdown-
This benefits the NATO world army
3- The shutdown does not really affect the NATO mercs, who have been provided with all manner of satellite communications. This does not benefit Syria
“Right now, the Internet is not working in any part of Syria, but most activists use satellite Internet connections and own satellite phones, so all is well. This operation won’t affect activists’ work much.”

Speaking via Skype, which he said he was using with a satellite connection, Mr. Abdul Rahman said fighters with the Free Syrian Army were battling government forces about a mile from the airport. “It’s a hit-and-run kind of battle,” he said. “The Free Syrian Army is using mortar shells without getting close to the airport, which the regime is firmly gripping now.”

The U.S. government has been providing Syrian rebels with "non-lethal equipment," including communication tools to get around Internet outages.

Despite the Internet blackout on Thursday, people outside the country could still access Syrian government Web sites for much of the day because they were hosted in foreign countries, including the United States. After being contacted by The New York Times on Thursday, several host companies said they were taking down those sites, including those for the Syrian state news agency, SANA; the Syrian General Authority for Development; and the Ministry of Religious Affairs. All three were down on Friday.
After being contacted by the NYT's the host companies were taking Syrian government sites down?
Interesting? Curious? How is it that the NYT's is so authoratative?

4-Had most of Syria not gone offline, might it have been more difficult to track who and where the Syrian government sites were being hosted? Since “host companies are taking down those sites” That certainly does not benefit Syria......................... More about the Syrian internet drop off here
quoting the latest update:

Update (01:00 GMT, 30 Nov):

The last 5 networks belonging to Syria, a set of smaller netblocks previously advertised by Tata Communications, have been torn down and are no longer routed. These blocks survived today's Internet blackout in Syria, but 12 hours after the onset, they, too are off the air. Traceroutes to these blocks now die on Tata's network in New Jersey, and websites hosted in these blocks are no longer responding.

It seems the NYT's does indeed have authority 

If the NYT's can't get the job done. Anonymous is always there to help....their NATO masters

Lebanese citizens/NATO mercs, killed in Syria

 Syrian security forces killed as many as 20 Lebanese gunmen who were fighting alongside rebels in Syria on Friday, raising tensions amid mounting fears that the Syrian civil war is enflaming the region.

Syrian state-run media also reported that Lebanese gunmen were killed. But the SANA report said there 17 — not 20 — fighters. The discrepancy could not immediately be reconciled.

The airport road had reopened by Friday and the head of the Syrian Civil Aviation Agency, Ghaidaa Abdul-Latif, said the airport was operating “as usual.” A day earlier, heavy fighting forced the closure of the road and airlines canceled international flights to Damascus.

 Meanwhile The “friends” of Syria are meeting in Japan
I like this headline -Friends of Syria rebels meet in Japan
Not friends of the Syrian people. Friends of the terrorist NATO mercenaries
  • The Friends of Syria group has previously organised four such meetings -- in Paris in April, Washington in June, Doha in July and The Hague in September.
  • The fifth 'sanctions working group' meeting in Tokyo saw the first participation from four countries -- Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Indonesia and Bangladesh, a foreign ministry official said.
  • On Thursday Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Washington was weighing what further help it could give the Syrian opposition rebels.
  • 'We are going to carefully consider what more we can do,' Clinton told a Washington forum, saying the United States was constantly evaluating the situation and adding: 'I'm sure we will do more in the weeks ahead.'
  • But she stopped short of saying whether the United States would recognise the newly-formed Syrian National Coalition, which is seeking to oust Assad, as the sole representative of the Syrian people, as several European countries have done.
  • Privately, US officials have said the Obama administration will likely go ahead and recognise the group at some point.

Of course the Obama administration will recognize their terrorists!
Recall some time ago, I had mentioned that the new coalition was just the same old, same old Muslim Brotherhood stooges.This article simply validates that claim that the new council and plan was a rebrand of the Muslim Brotherhood in charge, as has been the case since this council was created way back in Turkey

Syria's so called revolution is in desperate need of a REBRAND.
Hillary Clinton is going to make dam sure that happens- quoting from a previous post

Syria opposition government nears, Brotherhood flexes muscle

 The Syrian opposition made progress on Thursday toward forming a transitional government at the first meeting of their new coalition in Cairo and the Muslim Brotherhood emerged as an overwhelmingly powerful kingmaker, delegates said.

In a sign of its strength within the leadership of the opposition, the Brotherhood and its allies pushed for the adoption of an internal constitution that allows choosing the prime minister and the cabinet with a simple majority, rather than a two-thirds majority.

Since the coalition was set up in Qatar earlier this month with Gulf and Western support, the Brotherhood has swiftly assembled a de facto majority bloc, according to insiders keeping tabs of changes in the membership of the coalition.

But independent delegates at the Cairo meeting said the process by which a transitional government is being pushed through does not bode well for a democratic future for Syria.

"The West is sending a signal that it is ready to accept the Brotherhood as the only guarantee of stability other than Assad.
In other words, secular Syria is going to be turned into an Islamist state and Israel can continue it's perpetual victim, "only democracy" in the ME charade.

Conspicuously absent from the Cairo discussions was Sheikh Moaz al-Khatib, the coalition's president, a popular Damascene preacher who is increasingly seen as a religious figurehead who is respected inside Syria and an interlocutor with outside powers, rather than a hands-on leader.

But Michel Kilo, a veteran Christian opposition campaigner and a member of the coalition has not attended the Cairo meeting. The main Kurdish political bloc, the Kurdish National Council, has also refused to join.
BBC REPORTING: Damascus internet back
 Internet services around Damascus have resumed after a two-day blackout.
CNN REPORTING: Internet and phone services restore for most of Syria 

Internet and cell phone coverage were restored Saturday to most Syrian provinces


  1. Syria Internet Shutdown: A Loser's Strategy.
    "It was less than two years ago, on January 28, 2011, three days into the Egyptian uprising, that President Hosni Mubarak's government shut down the internet. Just two weeks later he was gone.

    Shutting down the internet is not just a desperation move. It's a loser's strategy. Yes, it makes it harder to for the opposition to communicate with one another, to organize demonstrations, to spread evidence on YouTube of a ruler's atrocities -- like video of children killed in bomb strikes -- or footage of resistance successes, like shooting down a regime helicopter.

    What's more, losing internet and also cell phone service -- vital for voice and texting -- is probably harder on the Syrian rebel army than it is on Assad regime forces, who have more satellite phones at their disposal, and probably a secure government internet or phone network for the top military brass.

    But in the big picture, Assad's move may backfire as Mubarak's did. When Mubarak cut the internet, he crippled the country's major industries and businesses, the ones connected to the global economy. Those businesses -- from oil to finance -- were crucial to keeping Egypt's economy functioning during what the regime hoped would be a passing protest phenomenon. Syrian business, while sputtering, is still generating revenue for Syria's cash-strapped economy.
    Technology doesn't "make" a revolution -- at least not after the initial stage. What keeps a revolution going is a citizenry turning against its government to such a degree that each new repressive step only makes them angrier."

    1. These are connected because cutting off a country's internet is one of the last soft acts of war done to soften a country up before a full invasion.

      I recently went back and evaluated the news from the summer of 2001 and see a similar plan at work--preparing Americans and the West for the upcoming war against Afghanistan and softening up the country before attack:

      I bet this tactic took the Taliban by surprise and may have really confused them about what the rest of the world was talking about, etc. . . . although maybe that's the biased view I've been trained to have about the Taliban.

      I now wonder if the U.S./West cutoff Afghanistan's internet shortly before 9/11 as a prelude to invasion. It happened in Libya and Egypt (and I think a few other places iirc) and Penny's excellent analysis above applies to those situations as well. Who benefited? Who had the opportunity, means, and motive? Neither Libya, Syria, or the Taliban had as strong a motive as the West. Maybe the Egyptian situation was slightly different though.

      The story of the Taliban sending vice squads around to snoop and stalk women who wanted to go on the internet from the summer of 2001 is hard to believe though--how many women even had home access and did the Taliban even care about such a small number of its people maybe viewing this?

      Good pattern recognition though anonymous. The superpowers aparently cut off a country's internet right before invasion and turn around and blame the country for these criminal actions. Guess this is now part of modern Western warfare.

    2. What you call criminal actions,ie shutting off the Syrian Internet, have been carried out by your favoured criminal Assad, who doesn't want the world to witness his brutal offensive on rebel held areas. It is going to fail of course and make large numbers of Syrians hate him even more.

    3. To be clear about Afghanistan . . . I'm not sure if the internet was cut off back then or if the West simply lied about what the Taliban was really doing. I can't find a Renesys like analysis (or much at all) and don't know if we could trust a Renesys type organization anyway (how many of these tech companies were literally started by the CIA?).

      Maybe the Taliban wanted to maintain one line of entry into the country and control that, and not ban the entire internet.* That's actually what I think happened. [I did some more research on the Western media reports of the summer 2001 Taliban 'ban on the internet,' and may post some of that later--but in short, the reporting is sketchy!]

      But maybe the West did cut off the internet at some point in 2001, in preparation for war. Like the U.S. likely did before invading Iraq in 2003:

      [I]f the U.S. wants to cut off Iraq’s access to the Internet, it need only give a nod to operators of a satellite farm in the woods west of Atlanta, or to a similar facility in the English countryside.

      An analysis of network records and routing patterns shows that Iraq’s only Internet service provider, the State Company for Internet Services (SCIS), appears to send and receive nearly all of its traffic over satellite hookups provided by Atlanta International Teleport of Douglasville, Ga., and by SMS Internet of Rugby, Warwickshire.

      Whenever Al-Botany or other Iraqis send an e-mail or browse the Web, their bits leave Iraq via SCIS’s satellite modems, bounce off orbiting satellites, and touch down again in satellite dishes run by AIT and SMS, which connect them to the Internet backbone in Georgia and England, respectively.

      I doubt cutting of Afghanistan in 2001 would have been as significant an event as doing it in Syria in 2012 would be though. As Penny notes, it's probably going to have the effect of terrorizing the people as they are slowly being choked off from the world. Their economy is being crushed. They've been under sanctions for years. It's hard to get fuel. Electricity was taken off line for a good part of the population a week or two ago because of sabotage on infrastructure. Russia has stopped further arms sales. Turkey is militarizing the border. The West is preparing for a no fly zone. Russia could stop printing Syrian currency. The satellite companies outside Syria have stopped showing pro Syrian programming. Now they are cutoff from the internet. They have been under constant attack.

      Not a good sign.

      There has to be a Syrian General proposing bold action right now. Clearly, war is underway against Syria and I would think quick and aggressive action is going to have the best result.

      *that didn't even work in the case of Iraq as it still relied on Western satellites as the Salon article linked above shows. Libya had use of the independent African satellite system, right?, so I don't know how they got kill-switched . . .

  2. Syria caused Internet blackout, security firm says.
    "“The Syrian Minister of Information is being reported as saying that the government did not disable the Internet, but instead the outage was caused by a cable being cut,” writes Matthew Prince, CEO of CloudFlare. “From our investigation, that appears unlikely to be the case.”
    A Syrian government information minister said that “terrorists” — which is how the Assad regime refers to rebels in a bloody, ongoing civil war — cut the cable, knocking out Web communication with other countries.

    Rebels have routinely used the Web to transmit images of the civil war, including what they claim have been military attacks by the Assad regime on civilians.

    But Prince said only four Internet cables connect Syria to the outside world. Three of them run underseas, and the fourth is an overland line through Turkey.

    “In order for a whole country outage, all four of these cables would have had to been cut simultaneously,” he wrote. “That is unlikely to have happened.”

    1. You're the one who's intellectually challenged if you really believe, or hope to convince anyone, that 'millions of ordinary Syrians' are rooting for their secular govt to be replaced with an Islamic state, whether they like Assad or not. They were supposedly 'fighting for freedom'; that would translate to less freedom, not more. Absurd.

    2. There does seem to be a lot of Syrians who want rid of Assad. He's been fighting them for nearly 2 years now and has got nowhere near regaining control of what he likes to think is his country. His problems are systemic and terminal and anybody with a modicum of intellect can see that. Not much of that will be found from the posters here though.

    3. Right, there were a lot of Syrians who wanted reform, which was being worked on.
      There might even have been a lot who wanted Assad gone.
      But now that they've seen what will take his place, they want no part of it. They are now FOR Assad, until this is over. Why do you think it has taken 2 years?
      Enjoy your kool-aid.

    4. I'm talking about regular Syrians, not the people who have been soaking in their bitterness for 40 or 50 years, aka Muslim Brotherhood, who took advantage of the peaceful protesters movement to rise up and bring in their murderous friends to help them.
      The regular Syrians who were supporting the FSA in the beginning did not know who they really were. They do now. As does anyone else who actually pays attention.

  3. Your articles are nonsense
    Anyone who has been following along knows full well the NATO mercs have been provided all manner of satellite equipment
    The internet shut down does not affect them
    In fact, the rebels quoted had no problem getting their message out to msm as quoted in my post

    " but most activists use satellite Internet connections and own satellite phones, so all is well"

    "Speaking via Skype, which he said he was using with a satellite connection"

    "The U.S. government has been providing Syrian rebels with "non-lethal equipment," including communication tools to get around Internet outages."

    Apparently you never tire of spreading nonsense/propaganda?

  4. Or you didn't read the post?
    And your intent is to spread more NATO propaganda
    Or even better nonsense for Israel's benefit

    1. "And your intent is to spread more NATO propaganda
      Or even better nonsense for Israel's benefit."

      Your statement that "Syrians fighting against Assad are practically non-existent", must certainly rank as the biggest piece of Assad propaganda nonsense that anybody could read on this blog. Talk about hypocrisy and dishonesty.

    2. Did you also not read the 20 Lebanese were killed fighting Syrian army??

    3. Did you not read the report of the French doctor treating rebels in Aleppo? By your bizarre logic, combatants fighting against Assad must be practically non-existent.LOL

      "“More than fifty percent of the warriors I had to take care of were jihadists, not just foreigners, but with the look of jihadists, with the beard and Koranic verses on the forehead,” said Bérès, who worked at one of the two main hospitals in Aleppo.

      “Their fellow soldiers, when they came to visit them at the hospital, said quite frankly ‘we are Jihadists’,” the doctor and activist added.

      Nevertheless, Bérès said his view could have been distorted because of his close proximity to the fighting. He said jihadists were often the first to be sent to the frontlines in Syria, and were wounded and killed in high numbers compared to other rebel fighters.

      Bérès’ most recent mission in Aleppo was the doctor’s third visit to the country since the conflict began in March 2011. He said he had not observed the same high number of non-Syrian jihadists in previous visits to the western city of Homs and the northwestern city of Idlib."

    4. As has already been covered on this blog, Beres and the NGOs associated with him are most likely perps:

  5. back in july
    #Syria discovered the satellite link the Americans are using to communicate with, command and advise the terrorist groups in #Aleppo.

  6. Syria 24 English
    24 minutes ago
    In #Syria provinces still have internet , and it is untrue that the whole country has been cut off.


  7. some insight: a shia lebanese parlimentarian aiding salafist terroists in syria

    'Lebanese Future Movement MP Okab Sakr has become a key player in the Syrian crisis, coordinating arms shipments to rebels and even arranging the kidnapping of an Emirati citizen on the orders of the UAE government.

    The Shia parliamentarian, whose sectarian affiliation raises many questions among radical Islamists, is nevertheless considered by many to be the most important liaison between Saudi Arabia and Turkey in the Syrian civil war.'
    UAE officials reportedly contacted the Lebanese MP to ask for his help, and Sakr, in turn, contacted members of the Nusra Front, but to no avail. The group refused to hand over their new recruit and even succeeded in securing fake Syrian identification papers for the young man in order to conceal his identity.

    When Sakr’s overtures with the Jihadis failed, he contacted a Syrian opposition leader based in Turkey who controls militant groups around Aleppo and Idlib and offered him more than $1.2 million to bring back the young Emirati Jihadi.

    The Syrian rebel leader raised the issue with leaders from the Nusra Front, with whom he communicates regularly given the fact that his group and theirs often operate in the same geographical area. Nevertheless, all his attempts met with failure.

    1. its guys like SAkr who have brought this crisis upon syria....not any 'uprising' by syrians

    2. It is worth recalling that Sakr has in recent weeks become the star of the “Syrian revolution” in the Western press. For instance, Time Magazine mentioned that “Saudi Arabia’s man in the Istanbul control center [which coordinates efforts with the Free Syrian Army] is a Lebanese politician named Okab Sakr. He belongs to the Future Movement, […], which has a history of enmity with [the ruling regime in] Damascus.

  8. all israel has to do is stand back and let the arabs destroy one another...consider
    the story/media paints these lebanese as romantic rebels.....i see them as religious opportunists.

    also this tale of the selfmade Strong man of Essal

    the region may hold the oldest civilisations, but what we see here is kamikazi decadence and will to power running riot...israel need only stand back and watch he arabs kill one another.

  9. can anyone identify the accent of the speaker? is it syrian?

    FSA divisions joining forces



    2. I'm not up to speed on all the technical details of controlling the internet but found these instructive when researching Afghanistan's internet history:

      I'm not sure how much we can trust the analytical firms like renesys. I certainly don't trust Facebook, Google, Youtube, or Twitter to self report what is happening to its services in a country like Syria.

    3. The spectrum article is interesting anonymous, even if it's mostly above my head.

      The article mentions root kits and back doors and I now assume all our technology is secretly monitored by the CIA or other intelligence/mob perps.

      Someone discovered the ZTE Score M Android smartphone had a back door earlier this year:

      And I've linked to this long article about the PROMIS system before and the early intelligence efforts to control electronic information: In that article about prosecutor office software, the author speculates (as others have) that all Windows based programs were compromised:

      It was also not by coincidence then that, in the same winter of 94-95, McCoy revealed to me that he was using former Green Berets to conduct physical surveillance of the Washington, D.C. offices of Microsoft in connection with the Promis case. FTW has, within the last month, received information indicating that piracy of Microsoft products at the GE Aerospace Herndon facility were likely tied to larger objectives, possibly the total compromise of any Windows based product. It is not by chance that most of the military and all of the intelligence agencies in the U.S. now operate on Macintosh systems.

      Whether the government spies on us via tapping into the central switching or routing facilities and sucking up all communications, or by remotely accessing our individual machines/devices, or both, it seems certain that Western governments/mafia are totally spying on all communications.

  11. Now here is something to think about!

    This little bit of info points right back to NATO, again, being the beneficiary therefore the perpetrator

    Physical infrastructure could also be destroyed or rendered inoperable in several ways and at several points. While this method is far less likely to be used by governments (which have likely invested in that very infrastructure), an attacker would feel no such compunction in bombing a transatlantic cable or removing power to a major switch facility.

    1. I'm skeptical of Renesys's assumption that diverse ISPs with outside access creates a more "free" internet. In a country like the U.S. I don't know how much this will matter.

      I wonder first of all how independent these various ISPs are. Like most of corporate America (and the world), many of these companies are related or they are part of industry associations and there will not be much variation in their corporate behavior. If the U.S. government demands ISPs prohibit access to "terrorist" web pages under threat of legal action how many are going to stand up to the government?

      Just look at the cell phone industry and how personal privacy has been upheld by corporations there. A few, like Blackberry, were reported to withstand government demands for control but my understanding is that Blackberry has now complied with Western government demands.

      Or more on point, look at how ISPs and other companies already share their customer data with the government.

      Plus, these small pariah governments, like Syria or Venezuela or Libya, may need to impose one bottleneck on the internet to be MORE free, as counter-intuitive as that sounds. If the West hijacks the Syrian internet and beams in false news this makes Syria less free and less open.

    2. the same logic applies to the use of cluster bombs in a country etc ...a govt would not endanger itsself with unexploded ordinance..but a foreign one would

    3. "I'm skeptical of Renesys's assumption that diverse ISPs with outside access creates a more "free" internet. In a country like the U.S. I don't know how much this will matter."

      I am skeptical also of that assumption
      Diverse ISP's may simply require diverse methods of getting around them

    4. Re: the point about the destruction of infrastructure which is of course not in the interest of the Syrian government who has spend Syrian money to build that infrastructure
      but do you recall my post from a couple of days ago

      How the US was directing rebuilding contracts to their partners in crime?

      The US and partners certainly have an interest in seeing infrastructure destroyed in Syria...bigger rebuilding contracts and more debt servitude for the Syrian people

      Syria is a rich and potential pool for investments that will attract a lot of businesses to rebuild its infrastructure and regain economic stability, Belhasa added.

      Who benefits?

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  13. Syria 24 English
    4 hours ago



    and yes internet connections in syria are back....lines had been cut by the terrorists

  14. Progressive Australians for Syria
    11 hours ago
    In Algeria, the Islamists lost heavily in the local councils election... It is very clear that Arabs have realised the reality of Arab "spring" and its devastating impact

    الجزائر || الانتخابات المحلية : هزيمة نكراء للاخوان و للاحزاب الاسلامية

    شهدت الانتخابات المحلية لانتخاب المجالس البلدية و الولائية في الجزائر نسبة مشاركة بلغات 44 بالمائة. حيث عرفت الأحزاب الاسلامية و حزب مجتمع السلم المحسوب على الاخوان المسلمين هزيمة أخرى بعد هزيمة الانتخابات التشريعية و جاءت في آخر الترتيب.

    في حين فازت الأحزاب ذات التوجه الوطني و اليساري بأغلب المقاعد حسب الترتيب الآتي : حزب جبهة التحرير الوطني، التجمع الوطني الديموقراطي، الحركة الشعبية الجزائرية، جبهة القوى الاشتراكية ثم حزب العمال.....

  15. HNN Homs News Network
    Clashes are continuing currently in the Al-Qaseir region following a car bomb near the Army Checkpoint which has wounded 12 Soldiers ..

    In 'Aakrama a small explosive device was detonated in Al-Ahram Street near the Al-Za'im Hospital yesterday, which caused only minor material damage , while near the Public Garden an explosive device was found camouflaged amongst Children's Toys, that was wired to a Cellular Device for Remote detonation, but due to Communications being suspended in Homs, the Terrorists were unable to carry out their murdering plans, which was to kill and injure civilians ...



  16. Veteran conflict journalist Robert King does an AMA on reddit where he writes about the sweet times he had with the FSA. What complete propaganda. He's got sweet things to say about the FSA and of course thinks Assad should be tried for war crimes and may use chemical weapons and says things like this:

    I think the biggest misconception of this story is that its a bunch of foreign jihadis coming in to establish military training bases inside Syria. Most of the fighters are Syrian, who formed units after the demonstrators in Syria were fired upon, detained and tortured. The US never had any interest in the story. they're so far behind they might not have a seat at the table once Bashar Assad is overthrown.

    The post has over 700 (mostly positive) comments and he posts an update about the roadshow moving to VICE:

    You can see my reportage in VICE's Ground Zero Syria series here and find my photographs in VICE's November Syria Issue

    1. Embedded with FSA, created in Turkey?
      "The US never hand any interest in the story"
      This guy is full of shiite

  17. Hot and heavy today

    Flow of Arms to Syria Through Iraq Persists, to U.S. Dismay nyt

    1. I noticed that. Big time spinning on chemical weapons.
      Prepping for that no fly zone, then Israel will fly in and bomb Iran