Tuesday, June 4, 2013

Turkey + Gladio + NATO = Is pressure being applied to Turkey?

Equals?...... I don't know what. Seriously.
It seems plausible that genuine resentment in Turkey was brought to the boiling point to pressure the Turkish government. That type of tactic cannot be ruled out. I spent last night mulling this over.

Here is the latest: Erdogan is visiting Africa. His Deputy PM offered something resembling a olive branch, after a meeting with President Abdullah Gul who has been taking an opposing position to Erdogan

Speaking Tuesday, Arinc said that, "in that first (protest) action, the excessive violence exerted on people who were acting out of environmental concerns was wrong and unjust." He added, "I apologize to those citizens."
Arinc said the government was "sensitive" to the demands of the largely urban, pro-secular section of society that had not voted for Erdogan's Islamic-rooted party.
"I would like to express this in all sincerity: everyone's lifestyle is important to us and we are sensitive to them."
Arinc was speaking after a meeting with President Abdullah Gul who contrary to Erdogan, has praised the mostly peaceful protesters as expressing their democratic rights.
 Gul and Erdogan could face off next year in Turkey's presidential election
This seems to feed into the concept that we have some serious political shenanigans going on. I broached that subject in the post from yesterday. Protests in Turkey: Simmering Anger at Erdogan? Or just another coup?

 "Not everyone in the AKP is behind the plan and speculation of an internal power struggle is rife."

Were going to take a brief trip down memory lane.... Some links but first let's read a pdf.

The AKP won the 2002 national election by a wide margin and the 2007 election by a wider one, but its victories have not ended the secular- religious tensions in the country.
Today, the Turkish domestic political scene is in turmoil, with two coincidental,
perhaps related, dramas unfolding simultaneously. The public prosecutor initiated
a lawsuit to have the ruling Justice and Development Party ( AKP) banned for being
a “focal point of anti-secular activities.”
Prior to this action and after it, in stages, the authorities arrested prominent secularists/ultranationalists (ulusalcilar ) on suspicion of plotting and instigating actions to create chaos in the country and provoke the military to overthrow the government. Both dramas highlight a severely polarized political climate and a continuing crisis over power and identity in Turkey. The AKP and the secularists each have champions and opponents who disseminate
conflicting narratives and interpretations of events. In some instances, the schism is
blurred, as some secularists argue for AKP’s survival in the name of democracy, and
some AKP members and followers question their leaders’ actions. Nonetheless, the
national rift is real and as yet unhealed.

On June 12, 2007, police raided an apartment in Istanbul and seized a cache of hand grenades, explosives, and fuses. The investigatory trail led to the arrests in January 2008 of prominent ultranationalists ( ulusalcilar) and secularists, including a retired major general and other retired military officers, the head of a fringe political party, a university rector, the head of a non-governmental organization, businessmen, and journalists. On July 1, two retired four-star generals, additional retired military officers, the head of the Ankara Chamber of Commerce. One of them, Gen. Sener Eruygur, is the former commander of thegendarmerie and now heads the non-governmental Ataturkist Thought Association,which organized peaceful mass demonstrations against President Gul’s election in 2007. The other, Gen. Hursit Tolon, is the former commander of the First Army. The indictment proposed on July 14,2008, requests that 86 individuals be charged with being members of an armed terrorist organization, attempting tooverthrow the government by force, inciting people to armed insurgency, instigating the killing of a judge during a 2006 attack on the Council of State (the highest administrative court),and bombing of the Cumhurriyet newspaper in 2007, among other crimes.
The perpetrator of the 2006 attack on the court previously had been thought to be religiously motivated. The final indictment is about 2,500 pages and includes almost all sensational political crimes committed in Turkey over the past few years. An additional indictment is
expected to be requested against Gens. Eruygur and Tolon, perhaps for attempting
coups during the AKP’s first term. The High Criminal Court has accepted the indictment, and the case will be heard beginning October 20, 2008. Arrests of individuals related to
Ergenekon continue. The alleged members of the criminal organization are said to have referred to themselves as Ergenekon
Ergenekon means “steep mountain pass” and refers to the Turkish national myth: it  was the route via which Turkish ancestors, following a gray wolf, escaped from Central Asia to freedom in Turkey to exact revenge on their enemies. All of the accused are known to have openly opposed the AKP, their “enemy.”According to the prosecutor, Ergenekon is not
connected to the armed forces or the National Intelligence Organization (MIT).
Is Ergenekon Gladio?

[http://www.ozturkler.com]. It has been suggested that the Ergenekon are remnants of Turkey’s gladio, forces NATO established during the Cold War to set up resistence in case of a communist invasion. Those forces were (allegedly)dismantled in many NATO countries, but not in Turkey, where they were military Special Warfare Units whose mission was to catalyze sabotage, assassinations, and the like. The Units recruited people from different walks of life, such as journalists, businessmen, mafioso, and judges.Gladio are multiple groups, not a single organization. Gareth Jenkins of the Jamestown Foundation at International Institute of Strategic Studies’ event in Washington, D. C., July 15, 2008. Jenkins’ ideas echo thoseof some Turks expressed in interviews with CRS during a visit to Turkey in March 2008.

U.S. Policy

The overall U.S. policy toward Turkey is largely determined by the United
States’ need and appreciation for Turkey as a strategic partner and NATO ally. In
addition, the Bush Administration values Turkey as a predominantly Muslim secular
democracy that might provide political inspiration for other Muslim countries.
Therefore, it has a vested interest in the continuation of Turkey’s democracy and
political stability and does not want military coup there. The Administration adopted
Which could tell us that the US policy, being determined by the US's need for Turkey as a strategic partner and ally, can change depending on whatever 'need' the US determines is strategic at the time it is setting policy.

Additional relevant links



  1. Similiar thoughts...

    Possible reasons for Erdogone?
    1. Erdogan’s plan to join SCO? VOA: Turkey Sees Future in Asia With Joining SOC
    2. Massive gold exports to Iran via Dubai that the US ramped up sanctions to curb
    3. Fallout with US/NATO over ME and Caspian gas routes/hub? Turkey demands Cyprus abandon LNG plant in favor of pipeline via Turkey for new gas (especially after the ECB/IMF axis dethroned the Greek Cypriots banking system)
    4. Turkish incursions/landgrab into Northern Iraq / Kurd? Turkey it is alleged wants a united Iraq as does the US but actions say otherwise
    5. Deep state investigations and military purge led by AKP (was sledgehammer the last vestiges of old deep state; remember Cheney’s “old media” comment)
    6. Intra military rivalry between old and emerging deep states? (NATO loyalties vs. legacy deep state revolution at transition)
    7. Greeks just formed a hydrocarbon company and Lebanon is talking about 30TCF offshore; Turkey has said there is no alternative to a pipeline from Cyprus via Turkey
    8. Water issues/Israel (note the rising tensions in Egypt and Ethiopia whereby Egypt just threatened to shut the Suez to nations helping construct the dams…)

    9. The PKK talks that blew into oepen in 2010 via a leak were UK moderated. Was the UK working with the US on the PKK issues or was this a US national energy security issue (Heritage oil, premiere, Genel?). UK is set to lose Scotland whcih makes Northern Africa, Falklands and Kurd oil key, no?

    Sledgehammer op: http://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2013/03/27/turkeys-jailed-officers/

    Turkey recently cut an energy deal with northern Iraq in defiance of the US: "Turkey has defied both Washington and Baghdad by agreeing an energy deal with the north of Iraq that the US warns could further fracture the Middle Eastern state, but which Ankara sees as central to its own future...."

    President Jalal Talabani is effectively brain dead (like the alleged Saudi king) and N Iraq lacks cohesive leadership

    Back in 2011 someone leaked that the Turkish intel was in negotiations with the PKK (now a formality). “The recording was first released by pro-PKK news agencies, but had been withdrawn from their websites by late afternoon. The agencies claimed it was planted by anonymous hackers.” It was rumored that the UK was mediating. The UK’s nat Rothschild and Tony Haywood were behind the Genel Energy merger (Haywood now chairman of Glencore )

  2. “Development of a Southern Corridor to link the Caspian to Europe with oil and natural gas pipelines was an early element of a U.S. strategy to end that dependence. The first stage was achieved with the completion of the Baku-Tblisi-Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline from Azerbaijan to a Turkish Mediterranean port and the South Caucasus Gas Pipeline (SCP) from Azerbaijan to Turkey.
    This report examines the next stage of Southern Corridor development. Utilizing expanded production of atural gas in Azerbaijan as a supply anchor, this stage envisions the expansion of the South Caucasus Pipeline, a new pipeline route across Turkey, and construction of one or more pipelines from the Turkish border further into Europe. The United States and our allies have also pressed for Additional gas from Turkmenistan and Iraq to supply the Southern Corridor.”
    Turkey’s rapidly growing domestic energy demand has been a central dynamic to the Southern Corridor and merits more priority in the U.S.-Turkey bilateral relationship. In particular, its willingness to allow transit of significant amounts of natural gas to Europe, even when its own domestic market could easily consume the gas, has bolstered the prospects for the Southern Corridor. The small amount of Turkish trade in Iranian gas is a growing area of concern as sanctions are further tightened. However, Turkey currently has no capacity to fully replace Iranian natural gas imports, which would require both new supplies and new domestic pipeline capacity to move gas between regions.

  3. “Iraq will be producing around 19 billion cubic meters of natural gas by 2035, which means it will become the fifth or sixth biggest producer in the world,” said Tahir Uysal, a partner at Silso Oil.

    Turkey should not only conduct energy investments in northern Iraq, but should also pursue ties in the southern part of the country as well, he told the Daily News on the sidelines of the meeting.

    He said Turkey should consider using northern Iraq’s gas rather than transporting it to Europe in the long term. Uysal also suggested that Turkey should follow a balanced energy policy between northern Iraq and Baghdad.

  4. "One development that could spell trouble for Erdogan's plans is a survey published by the Turkish group MetroPoll. It says that in a presidential vote, Erdogan would be bested by incumbent Abdullah Gul, like him a co-founder of the ruling Justice and Development party, by almost 30 percentage points in a head to head fight."

  5. PKK assassinations in France: No concrete information about who killed these three female members of the PKK and for what purpose. Was western Intel responsible for the hits? “Drawing an analogy with this incident, we can suggest that many would be eager to eliminate these women together with their secrets. Many people and groups in many countries likely have been losing their sleep over the risk that Cansız and other PKK members might make similar confessions about the dirty ties between the PKK and the countries that lend it their support.”

  6. characterization of Gulan movement and its pro west/anti-deep-state leanings (has legacy deep state gone rogue?):
    “To make a broad generalization, the movement has been more dovish to the West and Israel, but more hawkish against the “Turkish deep state” and the PKK.” writers in the Turkish media who are known (or believed) to be members of the Gulen Movement have raised critical opinions about “the process,” as it is called in short in Turkey these days. They have, in particular, targeted the Turkey’s spy agency MIT, confirming the claims that there is a tension between the allegedly pro-Gulen police security and the MIT, who is loyal to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


  7. Anonymous linkie person
    gobsmack me!

    I have been going round and round with this....
    Legit or something else
    Then the whole gladio presence in Turkey,,, the groundwork is there to apply the thumbscrews if necessary
    Did Israel and US want Turkey to kick off an attack on Syria and Turkey did not want to start it off alone and wait for allies to come in?
    Then Erdogan goes to Africa, with all this going on???

    1. Now I have to read all your stuff and think even more about this...

    2. Not just Africa. Morrocoo, which just canceled joint exercises with the US over a US/France stance on Western Sahara...

  8. It's so complicated. Turkey recently cut an energy deal with northern Iraq in defiance of the US....

    - Aangirfan

  9. Penny - nice job.

    "This seems to feed into the concept that we have some serious political shenanigans going on."

    The Gul moves to moderate the protests may be part of an overall plan to oust Erdogan, but keep things essentially the same in Turkey. After the way Erdogan talked about Israel and zionism, I doubt they would ever let that slide without revenge. Bad mouth rich Jewish supremacists and they will not rest until they can get revenge. There is no going back to being "friends". The Israelis like the current compliant Turkey, so does the west. Turkey is much more cooperative now than they were during the Iraq war. But Erdogan pissed off the zionist Jews, so he's probably unacceptable. So transfer the the zionist/western backing to Gul & co. and all is fine. Provided the demonstrators buy it and back off. But will they?

    Anger over Turkey’s ‘Islamization’ at the heart of protest


    "Professor Sergey Druzhilovsky of the Moscow State Institute of International Relations spoke to The Voice of Russia:

    "Attempts by the authorities to defuse the protests are unlikely to succeed. The problem is that many pro-European Turks have taken their country’s involvement in Syria as a turn from a moderate Islamization policy to a more radical one. A secular westernized society that Turkey largely is cannot tolerate autocracy or law-making inspired by the Sharia."

    The Russian Middle East analyst Dr Stanislav Tarasov sees the emergence of a new political landscape in Turkey. He was speaking in an interview with The Voice of Russia:

    "Erdogan may go, ceding his leadership position to President Abdullah Gul, who currently enjoys the highest approval rating of any Turkish politician. Coming second is the leader of Mustafa Kemal’s Republican People’s Party Kemal Kilicdaroglu. Very soon, the Justice and Development Party of Erdogan and Gul may find itself on the back foot."

    Instead of moving towards the European Union, Dr Tarasov says, Turkey may start sliding into the abyss of a mob-driven revolution. To avert this, the military may step in – for an umpteenth time in Turkey’s recent history."

    Think of Erdogan as Bush jr. and Gul as Obama, and the bulk of the demonstrators, and probably the Turkish people, as like those people in the west fed up with the war crimes, their lack of political say and the widespread corruption.

    Your line quoted above got me thinking along that path just now.

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    1. Instead of moving towards the European Union, Dr Tarasov says, Turkey may start sliding into the abyss of a mob-driven revolution. To avert this, the military may step in – for an umpteenth time in Turkey’s recent history."

      Order out of chaos?

      "President Abdullah Gul, who currently enjoys the highest approval rating of any Turkish politician. Coming second is the leader of Mustafa Kemal’s Republican People’s Party Kemal Kilicdaroglu"

      Mr Gul is riding the wave of nice statements to the protestors..
      Like any politician I am sure he speaks out of both sides of his mouth..

      The military.... the ones that loves the goodies from NATO and the west
      Recall I had said.. shades of Egypt
      The power in Egypt is in the military
      It looks as if Turkey is in the same boat. I had made statements to that affect some time ago here at the blog and in discussion with Aangirfan, way back

    2. The PTB are itching for war; Erdogon dragging his heals gets a 'hurry-up' or even setup for replacement, Obama dragging his heals might also soon get replaced?

      Tarpley, even more bumptious than usual but interesting all the same-
      Bilderberg 2013 Planning to Oust Obama, Install Petraeus for Attack on Syria/Iran, Ultra-Austerity?

      Erdogon's Africa trip looks like a ploy to get him out of the way for a while. He's been given the cold shoulder by Morocco so is not there on any pressing business.

    3. A bit more detail from the Tarp here-

    4. Yeah, the Turkish military are a definite dead end on a one way street in real bad neighbourhood.

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  10. Turkey is getting to be like the UK:

    Turkish police detain 25 over posting on Twitter


    "Police inTurkey have arrested at least 25 people in the western city of Izmir for posting material on the social networking website, Twitter, as anti-government protests enter the sixth day across the country."

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  11. Forgot about this...
    Erdogan Changes Security Chief, Bodyguards, Hurriyet Reports

    1. thanks Anonymous linkie person
      Erdogan changes security chief and bodyguards
      Ok, did he do this not to long ago????
      trying to recall

  12. Turkey protests gain momentum


    Ah, yes, Erdogan is playing the old "let them eat cake" trick (quoting Maxwell Smart). One wonders if Erdogan had ever heard of a rather famous, and dead, 18th century French Queen...

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