Friday, June 28, 2013

U.S. Ospreys and air tankers put Iran in Israel's reach

Good read:
Talk about targeting Iran's nuclear reactor but what comes after? Nothing?
Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, left, shares a few words with Israeli Minister of Defense Moshe Ya'alon after Ya'alon took an in-flight demonstration on the capabilities of the MV-22 Osprey, in background
The United States plans to give Israel weapons that would enable it to send ground forces against Iranian nuclear facilities that it can't penetrate from the air.

The deal includes air-refueling aircraft, advanced radars for F-15 fighter jets, and up to eight V-22 Ospreys, an aircraft that can land like a helicopter and carry two dozen special operations forces with their gear over long distances at aircraft speeds.

The Osprey "is the ideal platform for sending Israeli special forces into Iran," says Kenneth Pollack, a former CIA analyst now at the Brookings Institution's Saban Center for Middle East Policy.

The aircraft could help solve Israel's inability to breach Iran's uranium enrichment facility buried under a granite mountain at Fordow. It might be impregnable to even the heaviest conventional bunker-busting munitions in the U.S. arsenal, Pollack said. Israeli military planners have been brainstorming how to conduct an effective operation, Pollack said, citing conversations with senior Israeli military officers."One of the possibilities is (Israel) would use special forces to assault the Fordow facility and blow it up," Pollack said.

The weapons deal would be part of a military aid package for Israel that includes $1 billion for up to eight V-22 tilt-rotors; $500 million to retrofit radars into F-15 fighters and another $1 billion for a variety of air-to-ground weapons. Additional details about the U.S.-financed deal were revealed during a visit to Washington by Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon on June 15.

Secretary of State John Kerry on Thursday had a working dinner with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem and will visit with Israeli, Palestinian and Jordanian officials through Saturday, discussing broad regional issues and the peace process.

Jonathan Schanzer, executive director of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, said the arms package was part of an Israeli wish list including some items that were not discussed publicly to help it keep a military edge over other nations in the region and for possible operations against Iran.

Israel's air force would be hard-pressed to cause lasting damage to the Iranian nuclear program because it cannot sustain long-term bombardment and has limited bunker-busting capabilities and limited air-refueling capabilities, said Kenneth Katzman, who co-wrote the 2012 report "Israel: Possible military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities" for the Congressional Research Service.
When he first announced the deal during a visit to Israel in April, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the Ospreys would provide Israel with high-speed maritime search-and rescue-capabilities.

Yaalon said the arms sale would send a message to Israel's chief adversary in the region.
"Without a credible military option, there's no chance the Iranian regime will realize it has to stop the military nuclear project," Yaalon said.

Other parts of the arms package include Boeing's KC-135 "Stratotanker," which can refuel Ospreys and other aircraft while airborne and extend the tilt-rotor aircraft's 426-mile range almost indefinitely. The deal also includes anti-radiation missiles that are used to target air defense systems, and advanced radars for Israel's fleet of F-15 fighter jets, according to a Defense Department press release.

That equipment would increase Israel's capabilities against Iran, said Ely Karmon, a senior research scholar at the Institute for Counter-Terrorism at The Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, Israel.

The refueling equipment would extend the reach of Israeli special forces, which could be used against Iran as they were in Israel's attack on a Syrian nuclear facility under construction in 2007, Karmon said. 
In the 2007 attack, at least one Israeli team was on the ground to provide laser targeting of sophisticated air munitions, Karmon said. "The same would be done for Iranian sites."

The Osprey also could be used for search-and-rescue operations if Israeli aircraft involved in a complex air operation are shot down and pilots endangered, Karmon said.

Michael Rubin, an analyst for the American Enterprise Institute, said senior U.S. and Israeli bombers would do significant damage to Iran's hardened sites by targeting the entrances, and Israel could use the Ospreys for missions other than Iran's nuclear sites. Israel may want the ability to send troops to secure chemical facilities in remote regions of Syria or to block Iranian shipments bound for terrorists in the Gaza Strip, Sinai Peninsula or Lebanon, Rubin said.

"Sudan and Eritrea are floating the idea of building an Iranian naval base or shipping Iranian missiles to the Gaza Strip," Rubin said, referring to the Palestinian territory controlled by the terrorist group Hamas. "If you wanted to disrupt such missiles in a convoy, you'd do it with an Osprey."

The arms deal also sends a message to Iran and reassurance to Israel that the United States is serious about standing by the Jewish state, Karmon said.

Katzman said he doesn't think the arms sale provides Israel with significant new capabilities that Israel did not already have. He said the overall defense package, which also includes advanced F-16 fighter jets for the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, Iran's chief rivals in the Persian Gulf, is more "a symbolic move to show (American) resolve to Iran," Katzman said.


  1. Hong Kong, China, NSA....

    China's far west erupts in violence for 2nd time in 3 days; death toll from 1st rises to 35

  2. This is a sales pitch for the PGCC states to buy this unwanted aircraft, what is good for Israel is good for us idiots!

    1. I think you are probably right. The V-22 is a turd. It's one of those bloated pork barrel projects that took 20 years to make happen. And now that they finally got the things to work, they have few buyers, since the aircraft is way over priced for what it can be used for. It's likely Israel wont spend a shekel buying these, and that the aircraft will be ultimately paid for by American taxpayers. Another free ride for both zionist war criminals and corporate rip-off artists who polish coprolites and sell them as fancy mirrors. The aircraft has been plagued by poor design control throughout its development:

      American Supremacy: The V-22 Osprey or the "flying coffin"

      They are as vulnerable as helicopters (ignore the hype) and carry fewer troops/cargo and cost many times more. In fact, in one way, the V-22 is more vulnerable than helicopters because they cant make "hard landings" like helicopters can sometimes do after suffering engine damage. Damage an engine on an V-22 and you get this:

      The control of this aircraft is more complicated than regular aircraft and helicopters, and because of this, minor damage can be more critical. The aircraft is extremely vulnerable to battle damage.

      As for the refueling aircraft, Israel has these. So not much new, either. What they don't have is a secure route to Iran for an air attack. Both the refueling and attack aircraft would need to cross foreign air space to get there and back. That means Israel has to arrange with others ahead of any attack. So it wont be just an Israeli attack. Another important thing is Israel lacks the ability to do much more than a simple raid. The Iranian military and nuke infrastructure is much to spread out for Israel's puny air force to knock out. Israel would not be able to run a sustained air war over Iran, like the USA could.

      Any Israeli attack on Iran would likely see not only Iranian retaliation, but from Hezbollah, as well. This is one of the reasons Israel wants to neutralise Hezbollah, and are working hard to not only destroy Syria, but Lebanon, as well.

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  3. The Uighurs are part of that very convenient Islamist crew....
    you know the ones that spring in to action when needed?

  4. Is this stuff all related?

    GCHQ taps fibre-optic cables for secret access to world's communication

    Egyptian navy catches divers cutting Internet cable

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    Room 641A is a telecommunication interception facility operated by AT&T for the U.S. National Security Agency that commenced operations in 2003 and was exposed in 2006

    Operation Ivy Bells was a joint United States Navy, CIA and National Security Agency (NSA) mission whose objective was to place wire taps on Soviet underwater communication lines during the Cold War

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    1. RE: Egyptian navy catches divers cutting Internet cable

      "Divers were arrested while “cutting the undersea cable” of Egypt’s main communications company, Telecom Egypt.

      Egypt’s internet had been spotty for days, following damage to an undersea cable last week. But after the arrest of three men who allegedly used diving equipment to cut yet another line off the coast of Alexandria, there is speculation that what was initially billed an accident may have been part of a wider plan to take Egypt offline"

      Interesting? I have been trying to think about why?
      Why take Egypt offline?
      What comes to my mind is that destabilizers always have their "internet in a suitcase"
      so they are in no need of regular internet service (for the most part)

      So, was the intent to cut people off (regular folk)from the service..thereby creating annoyance, possibly rising to anger in the general populace?

      It is possible

    2. Or perhaps not alternatively but alongside were they attempting at redirecting in order to intercept
      as was done with AT& T
      Refresh my memory here was verizon not involved in some kind of internet intercept scandal?

    3. Operation Ivy Bells
      who knew?
      definitely worth the read!

  5. Ran across this blog researching revelations US is going to sell 6 (or 8) V-22s to Israel. Some of your readers have obviously been indoctrinated by the nonsense published about the A/C since it conception. But the notion it is a flying coffin that nobody wants is so ridiculous I just had to reply. The Osprey represents cutting edge technology that will eventually change the way people travel. Military applications usually come first because they represent a need - whether real or imagined - that drives the technology train. Having been intimately familiar with the A/C's development it made me almost crazy to read the BS that passes for knowledge. First the mainstream press tried to write the V-22 project into oblivion and when that didn't work it denigrated the concept and abilities of the A/C and when that didn't pan out it began attacking the potential of the Osprey as a menace to humanity because it can fly high, sneak around, and descend into and climb out of almost any place. By the way, the writer who claimed it can carry 24 operators and their gear needs to have head gear washed out. That too is absolute nonsense... maybe 12 in a cramped, ungainly fuselage that doesn't encourage familiarity... It is made to do what it does and it does it very well... even better, just ask any Force Recon Marines or SEALS sneaking around Syria and the Pakistani border doing nefarious deeds. Fortunately, someday folks will be traveling to easily accessible, super quiet, regional airports that take up no more space that a baseball stadium to move around. It is a marvelous technical advance some people are just to oblivious to realize.