Thursday, July 18, 2013

US/Britian talk of using force in Syria and "refugees beg for a no fly zone"

and news of a report from the "FSA" that Assad transferred chemical weapons.... (Of course this pack of lies originates in Israeli media. It does however present a very convenient lie that can be used against Syria, Lebanon &Iran)
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The refugees begging is over the top. So, I will save it for last. (before updates) Along with the picture of John Kerry

“Senator, I am in favour of building a moderate opposition and supporting it,” Dempsey said. “The question whether to support it with direct kinetic strikes ... is a decision for our elected officials, not for the senior military leader of the nation.”

The use of kinetic strikes, a military term that typically refers to missiles and bombs, “is under deliberation inside of our agencies of government,” Dempsey said.

“There are a whole range of options that are out there,” Navy Adm. James Winnefeld, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs, said of the planning for military action in Syria. “We are ready to act if we’re called on to act.”

Dempsey acknowledged in response to a question from Sen. Lindsey Graham, a Republican, that Assad’s forces have the upper hand in Syria.

“Currently the tide seems to have shifted in his favour,” the general said.
UK: UK 'ready to act' on Syria chemical weapons-  

No mention of just who in Syria has been using those....Clue: NATO backed mercs

General Sir David Richards says UK may have to go to war to tackle Assad

Military chief says 'we'd have to act' if weapons fell into al-Qaeda hands
Britain 'would have to act' to stop chemical weapons stockpiles in Syria falling into the hands of al-Qaeda terrorists, the outgoing head of the Armed Forces revealed today.
One of these actions could be to implement a no-fly zone, but General Sir David Richards warned that the Government has to be prepared to go to war if it wants to limit the powers of the Assad regime.

The Chief of the Defence Staff, who retires today, said: ‘If you wanted to have the material impact on the Syrian regime’s calculations that some people seek, a no-fly zone per se is insufficient.

‘You have to be able, as we did successfully in Libya, to hit ground targets... so you would be going to war if that is what you want to do.’

And finally, the begging refugees. Sounds like a music act?
Let's put our hands together for the Begging Refugees
Cue screaming audience- 
Not trying to sound callous- But, begging refugees? Begging to have their country, homes and fellow citizens bombed to smithereens.... Psy-op

Syria refugees "begging" John Kerry for no-fly zone

"We are begging you for a no-fly zone," said Jamalat Abu al-Hariri       
"You as the U.S. government look to Israel with respect," she said. "Cannot you do the same with the children of Syria?"

That question is right on the spin target.  I mean, really obvious stuff

And John Kerry’s response? He is so concerned...very concerned. He cares

"I think they are frustrated and angry at the world for not stepping up," he said. "If I was in their shoes I would be looking for help wherever I could find it. I share their passion and frustration for the plight that they face on a day-to-day basis."
 Mr Kerry the ‘humanitarian” If humanitarian means supporter of mass killings, that is.
Yuk, ew. Check the pic out. His hand on his heart. The sincerity of it all.....

Secretary of State John Kerry greets a group of Syrian refugees during a joint meeting with Jordanian Foreign Minister Nasser Judeh (sitting, R) at the Zaatari refugee camp near the Jordanian city of Mafraq, July 18, 2013.
Secretary of State John Kerry greets a group of Syrian refugees during a joint meeting with Jordanian officials

It doesn't get anymore contrived then the screaming headline and the absurd photo

UPDATE HERE AND NOW: Syria's rebel commander expected to visit United States

Syria's top rebel ( AQ) commander is likely to visit the United States next week, U.S.-based Syrian opposition representatives said on Thursday, and he is expected to make a plea for speedy U.S. arms shipments.
General Salim Idriss, who leads the rebel Supreme Military Council, is expected to go to New York for meetings at the United Nations and will perhaps also visit Washington.
  Mariam Jalabi of the Syrian National Coalition and a U.N. Security Council diplomat confirmed plans for Idriss to visit the United States.

YNET NEWS: Beware the tailor made Israeli propaganda 

A Free Syria Army spokesperson, Faid al-Masri, said that the Syria regime recently transferred to shipments of chemical arms to Hezbollah in Lebanon.

According to reports on the Lebanese A-Nashra news website the transfer occurred in the vicinity of Damascus in recent weeks, with Iranian coordination. The reports were unconfirmed by other sources. Recently, the Syrian regime claimed it has unearthed a rebel-owned chemical arms stash in the Qaboun neighborhood in Damascus. (Roi Kais)


  1. no fly zone would be tough without naval resources. naval resources are kept at bay not only from Russian naval resources in the area but from Syrian coastal defense as well. The later has the Pentagon a bit worried it would seem...

    Why the talk of a 'newly discovered threat'? Current misslies in Syria are not new and, contrary to propaganda, there have not been any new deliveries. This is a tell that Russia has not made any new deliveries of misslies in this class but will in a heartbeat if pushed much further. My guess is someone is going to push...

    Many have used words such as 'Brahmos' or 'Yakhont', but Syria does not have either of those systems.

    The systems everyone talks about in error are called 'Bastion P' which is the 'coastal defense' variant and not the Yakhont which is the export version of the system and can be used in additional areas. The fact Syria has never purchased a single Yakhont 'system' brings a question to mind, why do we have so many so called experts claiming they are in Syria?

    Answer: they are stalling until they can defend against it.

    Bastion P
    "Syria purchased two systems on 2007. The systems have been delivered to Syria in early December 2011."

    72 missles in the package

    Note: do not confuse the Yakhont 'system' with the SS-N-26 missile with the same name used by all variants of the Oniks missle system.

    1. thanks for all the info
      very good stuff

      Naval concerns

      ITT Exelis Electronic Systems division in Van Nuys, Calif., are helping U.S. Navy researchers develop an add-on advanced EW system to protect surface warships from a newly discovered, yet undisclosed, immediate threat to Navy fleet operations.

      Navy officials are known to be concerned about advanced radar-guided anti-ship missiles such as the Russian-made SS-N-22 Sunburn and SS-NX-26 Oniks, which may be operational with military forces in Iran, Syria, and other countries in the Middle East for use against U.S. and allied naval forces in and around the Eastern Mediterranean, Persian Gulf, and other vital waterways.

      Bastion P:

      first I have heard or read of this?

      The systems everyone talks about in error are called 'Bastion P' which is the 'coastal defense' variant and not the Yakhont which is the export version of the system and can be used in additional areas. The fact Syria has never purchased a single Yakhont 'system' brings a question to mind, why do we have so many so called experts claiming they are in Syria?

      Good question why are so many claiming they are in Syria if they are not?
      Military hardware is not my forte, so this is very interesting stuff

      Could this Bastion P have brought down the Turkish plane so long ago

      thanks for all the clarification :)

    2. Penny, to answer your question 'Could this Bastion P have brought down the Turkish plane so long ago?'

      No. Think of the Bastion P as a Yakhont with specifid radar and lauch system for coastal defense only, differences in flight characteristics, speed, warhead. It is an anti-ship or anti-sea platform weapon. No capability to hit airborn targets.

      Also note that the Yakhont system, just as with most weapon systems, export versions usually do not have the full capabilities. The Bastion P is not an export version and has the same capabilities as those deployed in Russia.

      I think with the recent testing of the Bahmos system in India adapting to airborn launch from a SU bomber has displayed some charictoristics that has the US Navy a bit worried.

    3. thanks!

      I am not as up on the knowledge of systems as I should be, admittedly
      When I have a bit more time I will find some info on the Yakhont systems


  3. anon linkie person?
    the nyt's story link goes to an older news story regarding the Turkish plane shootdown
    which is so freakin' weird

    that link takes one to this story June 2012
    which is the date on the link anyway, which is curious?
    but it is not about rebels killing Syrians

    Syria Shoots Down Turkish Warplane, Fraying Ties Further

    1. All the talk and dog and pony show implies that nothing will happen. They would just do it if they could. Also, keep in mind that a lot of BSing is necessary to cover themselves at the end of the day. It's a harsh fact of life that politicians and military men who hate Israel have to say that Israel is God's gift to man.


    2. a search on Google for 'mass-killing-reported-in-syria-apparently-a-rebel-ambush' shows the story was posted on Jun 22, 2012 - over a year ago.

      "More than 25 men were found shot to death on Friday near the city of Aleppo in unclear circumstances but what appeared to be a rebel ambush"

      not a new story.

    3. Hi Paul

      "Also, keep in mind that a lot of BSing is necessary to cover themselves at the end of the day"

      I cannot disagree with that!

    4. anonymous 7:23
      are we talking planes?

  4. What's going on with Syria? Thought for awhile that a little sanity had crept in and maybe the war mongers were backing off, but they're back in full force.

    Is a big distraction needed?

    Maybe they want to kinetic that 'al CIA Duh' state that's going to emerge as declared this morning?

    I smell Betty Nuttyahoo's blood soaked hands in this latest surge of BS and the City of London banksters.

  5. The EU just voted to stop sending some monthly welfare check to that parasite state AKA Israel, so Betty Nuttyahoo will probably react like a typical bully and lash out at Gazans or Palestinians in the West Bank or to really cheer that terrorist up, he'll get his flunkies Cameron and Barry Sotero to bomb the hell out of Syria.

    Nothing like murder, mayhem and destruction of Arabs to cheer up that psychotic lunatic 'Bibi.'

    1. Hey Greg:

      Syria; It's up. It's down. Assad and SAA are gaining ground. big time.
      This must have US worried and I suspect Israel even more so
      They were hoping for Golan and Sinai and more
      At this point in time it may just be Sinai
      This would displease them terribly

  6. Yes UK foreign policy is now being decided by Samantha Cameron

    If all that is to be believed. Anyway she is Astor clan after all.

    Penny - I am getting all kinds of problems with my comments - I was not able to post for a few days too. Definitely being hacked or may be something similar. Is this just me or do you get this too? C.

    1. Carol
      The blog was wonky last week, including a temporary disappearance
      and comments going to spam or lost
      This week has been better
      Blogger has always had it's moments
      Far to many of them, but then it's free and entirely tracked

  7. article title just made my day...

    1. I read it and can understand why
      I read Koestlers book and it was very good.
      He didn't shy away from his Khazarian heritage
      perhaps that was why he ended up dead....