Wednesday, September 11, 2013

Diplomacy on Syria is not what Israel wants and that is frightening!

The entire world breathes a sigh of relief, except for Israel. Jerusalem Post has an article which expresses disappointment. Yup, who cares if the the population of the planet has said NO to war. For Israel a possible Syrian deal that would prevent war is ‘More bad then good for Israel”          
Exclamation marks denote my exasperation with Israeli  spin, lies, propaganda and incessant warmongering !!!
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Chemical weapons out of Assad’s hands, therefore, is a net gain – that is the good news.

The bad news, however, is that Assad is left standing.(!!!!) 
 Bad news for Israel but most Syrian probably don't think so.Hence the regime change agenda pushed by NATO and Israel
The message of his surviving this whole incident as president of Syria is that – yes – in the 21st century you can wipe out entire neighborhoods and cities, use missiles, planes, artillery fire and even sarin gas to indiscriminately kill your own people, and still be allowed to rule.(!!!!)
No evidence that anyone other then rebels used any chemical weapons. And by the way Israel does a whole heck of a lot of indiscriminate killing including the use of chems..

That Assad is left standing, and may even end up remaining in power, is bad for Israel because it sends the following reassuring message to those in the neighborhood – particularly Iran – either perpetrating heinous acts or contemplating them: No worries, this world won’t interfere, you can get away with it.(!!!!!!)
Cause it's all about Israel?

Even if Assad has to forfeit his WMD stockpile, he will still literally get away with murder because – to borrow loosely from Bruce Springsteen’s song “Born in the USA” – “He’s still there, they’re all gone.” (!!!!)
Get away with murder? He'll just have pushed back the invaders.

Ever since the outbreak of the Syrian civil war more than two years ago, many asked who Israel wanted to prevail. Did Jerusalem prefer Assad, the predictable “devil it knew,” or the motley crew of rebels fighting him who could conceivably bring to power Muslim Brotherhood elements or – worse – al- Qaida? (!!!!!)
 Mentioned this spin lie about 'the devil it knew' just yesterday!)

More than 100,000 dead Syrians later, including a few thousand killed by deadly gas, there is increasingly a feeling among some key policy makers in Jerusalem that it simply cannot get any worse than Assad. (!!!!)
 Israel wants regime change

Assad is one of the most brutal and dangerous leaders on the planet; (As opposed to Netanyahu?) one without restraints; one who is now turning his country from an Iranian proxy into an Iranian client state. (!!!!!) If he survives, it will be because of Russian political cover and Iranian and Hezbollah physical and material assistance.

True, the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaida would definitely – if they ever gained control of Syria – cause Israel fits. (!!!!! )
 If that was the case why is Israel presently and previously providing MB, AQ and al Nusra support at the Golan border?

True, they could turn the Golan border, so quiet under Assad and his father since the Yom Kippur War in 1973, into a living hell. (!!!!!)
Israel has already turned the Golan border into a living hell. For Syria.

But even though the Sunni terror and jihadist groups like Hamas and al-Qaida threaten Israel and cause enormous problems, the main peril to Israel right now is not the Sunni terrorists but rather the possibility of an Iranian-led Shi’ite axis– one that soon could be armed with nuclear weapons – stretching from Iran through Iraq, Syria and into Lebanon.
Highlighted:  a moment of truth. Israel is NOT bothered by the “jihadis” because they are on the same team, opposed to Iran and killing Shi’ites. And Christians. Win/win for Israel

Let no one be distracted by the current events in Syria and Egypt: Iran remains Israel’s principal threat today, a threat that becomes existential if it gains nuclear arms. As such, anything that benefits Iran is bad for Jerusalem. Assad remaining in power benefits Iran, it is another link in the Iranian-Syrian-Hezbollah axis of evil.
Israel  acknowledges Iran does not have nuclear arms. And Israel acknowledges that Iran challenges Israel's dominance in the middle east.

As horrible as it might be, even a Muslim Brotherhood or al-Qaida controlled Syria might be the lesser of two evils for Israel since at least the Iranian propelled Shi’ite arc would be broken, and Iran would be weakened. A toppled Assad is a weakened Hezbollah and a weakened Iran, and that is a net gain.
Way back I did a post about Israel loving Jihadis. If I can find it????? I'll do a relink

The bad news in the Russian-brokered deal currently under discussion is that Assad remains at the helm. This is bad not only because a man who murdered so many will remain standing to kill another day, but also because Iran will retain a vital strategic ally. And, of course, Iran is the much more significant game right now for Israel than even Syria.
Yup, the road to Tehran runs through Damascus and Israel wants Syria flattened! Yesterday!


Opposition laments positive attitude toward Russian compromise, urges US to revert back to attack plans.
 'Neutralizing Assad's chemical weapons serves Israel, not the Syrian people,' rebel commander says       

            Syria's opposition and rebel forces are fuming over US President Barack Obama and the West's handling of the Syrian crisis, specifically the latest developments regarding the US attack on Syria.
Opposition source says Israel needs to prove its good intentions, persuade world to intervene in Syrian war

“If Israel wants to prove it has good intentions toward the Syrian people it must urge the international community to intervene in Syria," a senior official in the Syrian opposition told Ynet Sunday.

 The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that Israel must urge intervention in order to "save Syria and the Syrian people and prevent Syria's fall."

These two preceding  pieces from Ynet can be considered nothing but propaganda promoting war for the benefit of Israel, but, downplaying the very benefit to Israel by claiming this deal does not serve the Syrian people.
Horsefeathers!
This deal serves the civilians just fine. This deal does not serve Israel’s political class and the Syrian opposition is promoting Israel’s agenda.

7 comments:

  1. Well done, Penny.

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  2. Penny, well done. You seem to be having some effect. Though knowledge of the zionazi role has been building like a snowball rolling downhill lately. :)

    Even Jewish sayanim are having to acknowledge the zionazi role, lately. Example, sayan Bernhard Horstman (Moon of Alabama) has for 2 years almost completely ignored the Israeli role in the war against Syria. In the last week, he actually mentioned Israel as one of the war mongers. Amazing, the "official" deep cover hasbara is now having to include Israel in their bogus analysis, rather than pretend their role didn't exist.

    This change is interesting because before such creatures took it for granted they could smear any exposure of zionazi influence as anti-semitic or irrelevant (previous standard fare by "bernhard" of that Jewish zionist stealth site), now the sodding things try to gain credibility by attempting to co-opt these views.

    In military terms, such a retreat is euphemistically called a "tactical retreat". :)

    It is interesting, and most definitely connected that this turn of hasbara events is taking place at the same time with the zionazi failure to convince the world of Syrian CW use. They are trying to salvage a failed campaign.

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  3. 'To take military action without Security Council authorization' is unacceptable - Putin

    http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_09_12/To-take-military-action-without-Security-Council-authorization-is-unacceptable-Putin-2123/

    "In a lengthy piece titled 'A Plea for Caution from Russia', the Vladimir Putin reminded that the United Nations was created as a universal instrument of preventing devastating wars.

    "No one wants the United Nations to suffer the fate of the League of Nations, which collapsed because it lacked real leverage. This is possible if influential countries bypass the United Nations and take military action without Security Council authorization."

    "From the outset, Russia has advocated peaceful dialogue enabling Syrians to develop a compromise plan for their own future. We are not protecting the Syrian government, but international law. We need to use the United Nations Security Council and believe that preserving law and order in today’s complex and turbulent world is one of the few ways to keep international relations from sliding into chaos," Putin said in an op-ed published in the New York Times on Wednesday.

    "The law is still the law, and we must follow it whether we like it or not. Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council. Anything else is unacceptable under the United Nations Charter and would constitute an act of aggression," Putin wrote."

    &

    Russian Duma urges US Congress to choose peace in Syria

    “The State Duma seeks to prevent the catastrophe by all possible mans and addresses the US Congress and the parliaments of other countries to concentrate efforts to search for ways to settle the inter-Syrian crisis by peaceful means. At present, it is still impossible,” the draft statement says.

    All Duma factions intend to support the document."

    http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_09_12/Russian-Duma-urges-US-Congress-to-choose-peace-in-Syria-1033/

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  4. 'It is extremely dangerous to encourage American people to see themselves as exceptional' - Putin

    http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_09_12/It-is-extremely-dangerous-to-encourage-American-people-to-see-themselves-as-exceptional-Putin-5195/

    The New York Times on Wednesday published a column by Vladimir Putin in which the Russian president urged the United States not to launch an attack on Syria.

    "My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal," - Putin writes.

    Putin underlines that military intervention in internal conflicts of other countries has become commonplace for US. "Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us."

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  5. 'It is extremely dangerous to encourage American people to see themselves as exceptional' - Putin

    http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_09_12/It-is-extremely-dangerous-to-encourage-American-people-to-see-themselves-as-exceptional-Putin-5195/

    The New York Times on Wednesday published a column by Vladimir Putin in which the Russian president urged the United States not to launch an attack on Syria.

    "My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal," - Putin writes.

    Putin underlines that military intervention in internal conflicts of other countries has become commonplace for US. "Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us."

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  6. speaking of diplomacy

    first we see Putin bypass diplomats and send a msg to the military by the rumor of 'Special' weapons, not he goes straight to the people. this is how a real Statesman works folks.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?src=twr&_r=2&

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  7. Yep we need to keep an eye on Netty for awhile. He is probably apoplectic by now since he lost out on Ahmadinejad and the Iran war, and now Assad is being so rude as to not lose.

    Purim comes in a few days. We never know with religious holidays with these folks although one never knows quite what they are up to unless it is in a downward direction.

    Long live Hezbollah for their work, and Russia for its interference.

    "911 was very good for Israel" .. Nutty has not changed at all but Israel has fallen more under the nutty spell.

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