Wednesday, July 2, 2014

Glaxo chief: Our drugs do not work on most patients

GSK and it's filthy production facility in Canada kept on providing flu vaccine for human  beings in Canada and the US.-Salmonella with your flu vaccine, Canada?
 What other dirt has been dished up by GSK in recent years?
Found an older interesting news article- Our drugs don't work on most people You will notice that hasn't stopped GSK from manufacturing acknowledged useless drugs at a great profit.

Allen Roses, worldwide vice-president of genetics at GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), said fewer than half of the patients prescribed some of the most expensive drugs actually derived any benefit from them.
It is an open secret within the drugs industry that most of its products are ineffective in most patients but this is the first time that such a senior drugs boss has gone public. His comments come days after it emerged that the NHS drugs bill has soared by nearly 50 per cent in three years, rising by £2.3bn a year to an annual cost to the taxpayer of £7.2bn. GSK announced last week that it had 20 or more new drugs under development that could each earn the company up to $1bn (£600m) a year.

"The vast majority of drugs - more than 90 per cent - only work in 30 or 50 per cent of the people," Dr Roses said. "I wouldn't say that most drugs don't work. I would say that most drugs work in 30 to 50 per cent of people. Drugs out there on the market work, but they don't work in everybody."

Of course he is promoting genetically geared drugs as the panacea to this problem, but, that hasn't panned out either.

"Roses is a smart guy and what he is saying will surprise the public but not his colleagues," said one industry scientist.
 The figures cited below are likely grossly exaggerated also,but, still they are damning enough

Therapeutic area: drug efficacy rate in per cent
  • Alzheimer's: 30
  • Analgesics (Cox-2): 80
  • Asthma: 60
  • Cardiac Arrythmias: 60
  • Depression (SSRI): 62
  • Diabetes: 57
  • Hepatits C (HCV): 47
  • Incontinence: 40
  • Migraine (acute): 52
  • Migraine (prophylaxis)50
  • Oncology: 25
  • Rheumatoid arthritis50
  • Schizophrenia: 60
 I am sure GSK is not the only drug manufacturer with similarily dismal stats

20 comments:

  1. Good weed does tho

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  2. In the case off SSRI drugs for depression, they work no better than placebos. So they may be entirely ineffective.

    Many drugs end up producing the very effects that they are supposed to supress. Xanax is a classic. In short order it produces anxiety (which the patient had before taking it) but now has an addiction to deal with too!

    Frankly, so-called modern health care is doing everybody a favour by pricing itself out of the market!

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    1. james, was thinking in regard to your comment
      'modern health care' would have long been out of business had it not been for government colluding with them
      the stats on meds are horrid
      their vaccines, vile
      If we chose health care based on what truly healed, helped and kept us healthy- big pharma/big oil would be long gone.
      GMOs' would be banished, as they should be
      just a thought

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  3. I agree with all your points, Pen. The figures quoted in the chart are described as "effective" which many (as intended) will read as curative but, in fact, means 'treat' which means they affect one or more symptoms.

    Pharmaceutical companies are corporations which means their real mission statement and requirement under law is to maximise returns for shareholders I.e. Maximise profits. Profits are most readily maximised by not curing a disease but treating it for as long as possible. This is flat out psychopathic but legal.

    Vitamin therapy is far more effective in many cases. Schizophrenia is cured with a 70% success rate with large doses of B3 and there are no side effects (toxic reactions to poison). This has been documented over decades but we don't hear about it.

    The pharmaceutical/medical industry scam is every bit as psychopathic outrage against humanity as the banking/war scam is.

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  4. I recall reading several years ago that most drugs being sold are based on the bell shaped curve of marketing and, er, treatment. Most people (or less than most as indicated by the percentages revealed above) will do somewhat well on most drugs, but many will not. Yet, here in the US, for formulary set forth for Medicare will not cover dehydrated pig's thyroid as an alternative for synthetic thyroid replacement drugs...no matter how obviously some patients do better on, for example, Armour thyroid.

    But it does save the insurers money, since people who must use the Armour don't get any reimbursement or Part D support.

    And many people take a drug which keeps them alive, but not living well....

    jawbone

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    1. Hi jawbone!
      Interesting about the thyroid treatment?
      I wonder often about the connection between thyroid problems and fluoridated water- because there is a linkage

      http://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/thyroid/

      we haven't had fluoridated water where I live for some years now and it would be interesting to see if we have a decline in thyroid disease

      but for now many older people 70plus have thyroid diseases or tumours of the thyroid etc

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  5. An excellent blog to follow if you want to learn about medical and pharmacological shenanigans is Dr.Malcolm Kendrick's http://drmalcolmkendrick.org/
    He is the author of a very good book called "The Great Cholesterol Con" and a figure head of the thincs.org site of cholesterol skeptics. Cholesterol skeptic doesn't mean that cholesterol doesn't exist, it only means that the lipid hypotheses and the diet heart hypothesis are complete bullshit and is a convenient venue to funnel billions of dollars every year from the public to the health care system, which in my opinion is even more evil than the militaro-industrial complex (don't forget the 3rd highest death cause in the US are iatrogenic deaths, i.e. deaths caused by medical treatment, like drug side effects or infections with resistant drugs in hospitals).
    The insidious thing with the MPC (medical pharmaceutical complex) is that sometimes one is required to put up with them, like it happened to me last month when I had a hemorragic stroke. A good part of the treatment is ok and effective, but it is mixed with a lot of hocus-pokus completely wrongheaded. The diet and half of the drugs for hypertension are redundant (beta-blockers for instance).

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    1. I'm sorry to hear of your stroke Gallier.I hope you are recovering well.

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    2. Gallier! I am sorry to read of your stroke also. These can be awful things.
      by the drugs being redundant..do you mean unnecessary/overkill or just not useful at all?

      You are right though the medical industry has the deaths of many on their hands and they remain unconcerned because they are shielded from any real liability by the magical laws

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    3. I'm fine. The clot and the edema recided in about 3 weeks. The docs were quite surprised of the quickness of the recovey, except for a little bit drooling and light numbness on the right side there are nearly no problems anymore. There are some effects in language skills that changed, but it's difficult to link it to the stroke, like having German interfering in my spoken english (I grew up bilingual german-french and learnt english as a teenager, young adult).
      The reason why I recovered so quickly is that I am now seriously pursuing a low carb diet again i.e. without cheating. I lost almost 10kg in 6 weeks and the hypertension that was at 280/180 at the time of the stroke, is now in a more manageable 130/100 range. The diasystolic is still a little high, but currently I can maintain it without the pills.
      Funny anecdote, the Doc was really pleased when I bluntly told her that I experiment with the dosage to reduce it, that I stopped the beta-blockers and that I take my own decisions for the treatment. She was happy with it because she was always puzzled by the sheepines of her normal patients. You could prescribe them any shit and they would follow it.

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    4. Yes the Calcium channel blocker was sufficient to get the hypertension down. I checked then beta-blocker and it is known to be a lousy hyper-tension pill. It also has the contradictory effect of slowing your resting metabolism by 20 to 30%, which implies in general weight gain, a well documented effect of it. I managed to lose weight despite the beta-blockers but when I decided to ditch it, it accelerated quite nicely.

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  6. There are some effects in language skills that changed, but it's difficult to link it to the stroke, like having German interfering in my spoken english (I grew up bilingual german-french and learnt english as a teenager, young adult).

    But, it is likely connected. Strokes are abi (acquired brain injuries) so who knows what connectivity became unconnected?
    It would seem your english is not as wired into your brain as your original languages so... since the wiring for the German/French is stronger it overrides the English

    Hopefully that will resolve?
    Do you have any dyslexic tendencies to deal with.

    I suffered a tbi some years back and it left me with dyslexic tendencies, balance and proprioception issues

    http://io9.com/sensing-your-own-body-is-more-complicated-than-you-real-1473461740

    less related to myself, more related to my body and the space surrounding it
    which can lead to some weird experiences..

    as for you taking charge of your health!! Kudos to you for that!
    I wish more people would be more proactive when it comes to that
    but it is so difficult for them to challenge their own ingrained belief in authority

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  7. It would seem your english is not as wired into your brain as your original languages so... since the wiring for the German/French is stronger it overrides the English

    that's certainly the case. The german (dialect) being even deeper seated than the french and the grammatical closeness. Furthermore the spoken english is used here mainly during the coffee breaks, so for casual conversation, something really much more difficult than the formal stuff needed for work. It sounds paradoxical, but the Eurocratic office linguo, which baffles the native english speakers around the world is in fact extremely simple. It's french with an english sounding wrapping Ok, I exagerate a little bit, but you get my drift.
    Casual coffee break conversation requires a lot more vocabulary than people imagine, because the conversations can turn around any subject: cars, cuisine, gardening, coffee, geography, history, movies, news, conspiracies, ufos, litterature, work related, family related, administrations (not to forget that we have here 4 countries in a circle of 30 km) etc.

    Do you have any dyslexic tendencies to deal with.
    Except for my hand writing getting worse, nothing fortunately.

    as for you taking charge of your health!! Kudos to you for that!
    I wish more people would be more proactive when it comes to that
    but it is so difficult for them to challenge their own ingrained belief in authority


    Having discovered thanks to blogs like yours (skeptics, anti-authoritarian etc.) and also from personal life experience, I know that people in "high" positions didn't get there for their genuine qualities but mostly because they are psychopaths who can fake to the perfection the impression of competence.

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    1. Oh Gallier
      thanks to blogs like mine
      If this place helped you to be stronger or what ever I am pleased as punch,seriously- but it is you and other commenter who help me equally as much- this is a two way street
      so true about the people in high positions they are psycopaths and can really fake so much
      I looked at the cholesteral site and was intrigued with his post on chloride
      took some time to find some more info and yup it checked out
      chloride levels + too low = higher mortality
      so about that salt?
      I wonder.

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    2. Funny, isn't it? The thing with modern medical research, it's that when you start to find out things like with the chloride stuff, you discover that the whole research has been done in bizarro world.
      One can even put a date on when things started to get completely arse about: after operation paperclip, i.e. when the German lead research was looted by the US after WW II. Before the war, research was mainly a German thing, the biggest advances in fundamental medicine were German (see for example Warburg with his cancer solution). After Germany lost the war, the US organised operation Paperclip, which was the big operation to loot everything of value. Truthers generally insist on the rockets (Werner Von Braun, V2), planes (Messerschmitt P-1101, Horten etc) or intelligence technicians (Mengele and other torturers) but the whole civilian research (patents) was also looted. Everything that could be weaponized or made quickly profitable was used, everything else was put away.
      Medical research was especially hit by the general mediocrity of American scientists. Don't get me wring, I'm not saying that Americans were not good scientist, the problem is their ideological underpinning, liberal, utilitarian, eugenist. That's why the whole research went in the "everything genetic" way which is imho a big cul-de-sac, while the "everything metabolic" is still poo-poo-ed at.
      Ok, it's a little bit caricatural but you get the idea.
      PS: There is btw evidence that the whole genetic approach to medical academia was forced by the Rockefellers , I will try to find the article this late afternoon, it's really worthwhile.

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    3. PS: There is btw evidence that the whole genetic approach to medical academia was forced by the Rockefellers , I will try to find the article this late afternoon, it's really worthwhile.

      I would love to read the article! It wouldn't be the least bit surprising that the scummy Rockefeller clan pushed the genetic approach

      Metabolic? By this are we talking endocrinology?
      I believe from tidbits I pick up here and there there is something significant to the endocrinology systems of humans, and that it is researched but more or less suppressed.

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    4. Here is the article written by Chris Masterjohn in 2009.
      http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Rockefeller-Foundation-Social-Control-Eugenics.html

      Chris is certainly the most rigorous and thorough writer I know of. He's not in the usual "conspiracy theory" themes, we dwell with here, but what he writes on his blog and on the cholesterol and health site is therefore even more precious and devastating.
      One other article I love of him is how he (re)discovered, or better said showed, how we can make glucose out of fat, a thing that EVERY text-book on metabolism and even most researcher and experts will deny is possible. But he proved it, he found the research that backs it up without any doubt, really intriguing.

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    5. Hi Gallier: thank you so much!
      I started to read but haven't finished it yet
      past couple days have been so hectic and today have to take my mom for a medical procedure-
      When done I am going to look up the other article you have mentioned glucose out of fat?
      interesting
      thanks again!

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    6. Here is the link http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2012/01/we-really-can-make-glucose-from-fatty.html in case you were really interested in biochem. Be careful, even if it is explained in the most simple way (the little train that could), it's still highly complex biochem that needs still some notions of chemistry.

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    7. chemistry, not my best subject, but, I can just look everything up as I go!
      thanks again :)

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