Monday, September 15, 2014

Ukraine:Trident/NATO games. NATO arms. NATO military dictatorship planned?

Some interesting news items:
Ukraine Fighting Prompts U.S.-Russia Meeting in Paris
And if I may? The Businessweek article is full of insinuation- So, I’ll cut to the chase-
Kerry and Lavrov will meet in Paris and talk Ukraine today also there is a NATO training exercise taking place today & running for two weeks in Ukraine
The U.S. is participating in an annual training exercise in Ukraine with 14 other nations, according to a statement from Navy Captain Greg Hicks, a spokesman for U.S. European Command.
The two-week field training exercise, which won’t include any live fire, was planned before the outbreak of hostilities in Ukraine, Hicks said. About 1,300 military personnel from North Atlantic Treaty Organization members the U.S., the U.K., Poland, Germany and Canada as well as Georgia and other countries, will take part in the exercise with Ukrainian forces near Yavoriv, Hicks said
The exercise, dubbed Rapid Trident, in western Ukraine bordering Poland, is taking place about 1,200 kilometers (750 miles) from the fighting in Donetsk.
Trident? 

Like Malaysia Airlines?


 How about the trident used in Ukraine (Right Sector flag)?
Strange or maybe not?

The Businessweek article ends with this-  “NATO countries have started supplying weapons to Ukraine” Yes, they have! So much for encouraging the peace? Shoring up the ceasefire?
The BBC report verifies the NATO weapons shipments to Ukraine - Nato members 'start arms deliveries to Ukraine'
Nato countries have started delivering arms to Ukraine to help its soldiers fight pro-Russian separatists in the east, the defence minister says.
And this little tidbit deserves attention!
While the issue of restoring Ukraine's nuclear arsenal was not on the agenda, Mr Heletey said it would not be ruled out in future.

Guardian- Interesting article about the Azov battalion
Is the plan to take the fascist battalions into Kiev? Overthrowing the "elected' government, figuratively speaking. Because the puppetmasters will still be pulling the strings
The battalion's far-right volunteers' desire to 'bring the fight to Kiev' is a danger to post-conflict stability
“But there is an increasing worry that while the Azov and other volunteer battalions might be Ukraine's most potent and reliable force on the battlefield against the separatists, they also pose the most serious threat to the Ukrainian government, and perhaps even the state, when the conflict in the east is over”
This tells us very clearly that Kiev does not control the Azov battalion.
If Kiev does not control this &  other such ‘volunteer’ batallions  (someone is paying them) who or what controls these fighters?
“Other volunteer battalions have also come under the spotlight. This week, Amnesty International called on the Ukrainian government to investigate rights abuses and possible executions by the Aidar, another battalion.

"The failure to stop abuses and possible war crimes by volunteer battalions risks significantly aggravating tensions in the east of the country and undermining the proclaimed intentions of the new Ukrainian authorities to strengthen and uphold the rule of law more broadly," said Salil Shetty, Amnesty International secretary general, in Kiev”
Of course this makes the west look bad. & perception management is everything
So, Amnesty paid some lip service to the issue then everything continues as it has been

The future of Ukraine- A military dictatorship?

Fighters from the battalion told the Guardian last month they expected a "new revolution" in Ukraine that would bring a more decisive military leader to power, in sentiments similar to those of many Azov fighters
 And while they may be a tiny minority when it comes to Ukraine as a whole, they have a lot of weapons.
They expect a new revolution in Ukraine? This tiny minority that has a whole lot of weapons.
And, as luck would have it, more are being delivered to them by NATO nations
President Petro Poroshenko will be killed in a matter of months, Dmitry said, and a dictator will come to power.
Dmitry, who? Dmitry Yarosh? For all we know it could be.
"What are the police going to do? They could not do anything against the peaceful protesters on Maidan; they are hardly going to withstand armed fighting units."

Interesting

We know  'peaceful protestors' were mostly a creation of the NATO media.
We know that heavily armed fighting units were very active, along with NATO snipers, at Maidan.
We know that NATO is sending in more arms for these very fighters
Are the fascist battalions being armed for an insurrection in Ukraine? Another overthrow? This time resulting in a military fascist leader being installed?
It looks to me as if this is a definite possibility

10 comments:

  1. Hi Penny,

    The trident symbolism is very interesting and very topical.

    NATO basically positions itself as a reborn Atlantis.

    The trident of Poseidon has inspired trident and poseidon missiles. In fact trident succeeded poseidon so someone was getting off on Atlantean legend.

    In Scotland there is a nuclear missile base with trident missiles that the SNP wanted to close, but NATO told them that this would not be allowed.

    Anthony

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    1. Hi Anthony
      It's weird how that symbol keeps coming up? First I was just ignoring it, but, then a NATO exercise with that name? There has to be something to that?

      What do you think of the potential military dictatorship- I think it will happen
      It would certainly make it much easier for the ptb's to run the show
      and the US/Israel/NATO crowd love dictators- History makes that abundantly clear

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    2. Hi Penny,

      Events are just way too messy in the Ukraine at the moment for me to guess what will happen next (other than that the war will officially recommence soon), but the Ukranian people do seem destined to a literal Slav / Slave existence.

      What speaks against a military dictatorship in my opinion would be that it would go down very badly in the European Union and postpone Ukranian membership even further.

      The Ukranian economy is tanking. The outflow of the best educated Ukranians will continue to pick up pace. What a mess.

      Anthony

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  2. Trident seals
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Warfare_insignia

    The trident, the scepter of Neptune, or Poseidon, king of the oceans, symbolizes a SEAL's connection to the sea. The ocean is the hardest element for any warrior to operate in - it is the one in which SEALs find themselves the most comfortable.

    Putin just put bombers on alert as Obama says he will overthrow Assad if he shoots at US planes (Israelis reporting US cooperating with Assad however). Syrian rebels allegedly have a buffer in Syrian golan..


    http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/749536
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/world/middleeast/paths-to-war-then-and-now-haunt-obama.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
    http://www.dawn.com/news/1131855/rebels-seize-big-chunk-of-land-on-syrian-side-of-golan-truce-line

    More anon airstrikes in Libya
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/africa/2014/09/15/-Unidentified-Jets-Strike-Islamists-in-Libya.html

    And why would Saudi, no doubt being pinched on US oil work in the WTI/Brent pits, being anxious to arm up Friends of Syria having recently ordered all the Saudi Jihadists home? IS has made clear that Saudi is a target as is their now closer ally Egypt (Suez expansion implications as US sniffing around Crete for naval base). The Saudi agreeing to host training base looks like a red herring. US advisors just landed in Anbar...
    http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140914/192930829/United-States-Military-Advisers-Arrive-Western-Iraqi-Province-Al.html

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    1. Obama says he will overthrow Assad if he shoots at US planes
      I expect he will because the US will say Assad is supporting ISIS

      (Israelis reporting US cooperating with Assad however).

      I have seen that claim,but, have seen nothing to substantiate it. Coming from the Israeli's?????

      Saudi Arabia? From what I can figure they seem to be still in the game,but, then you get all this contradictory stuff ???
      Just don't know-

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    2. regarding rebels at Golan, they have always been there, Israel has always supported them......
      and I noticed a week or so ago, maybe longer, talk of the no fly zone had resurfaced?

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  3. Speaking of symbols - coincidence?
    India's spacecraft 'on target' to reach Mars after voyage of 666 million km.
    http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-asia/story/indias-spacecraft-target-reach-mars-after-voyage-666-million-km-20140915

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    1. 666 . well I guess if that is how far it is???

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    2. Hi Penny,

      Apparently the distance varies because the Earth's orbit is considerably smaller than that of Mars. So the figure of 666 is likely to be symbolic..

      "The minimum distance from the Earth to Mars is about 54.6 million kilometers. The farthest apart they can be is about 401 million km. The average distance is about 225 million km"

      http://www.space.com/14729-spacekids-distance-earth-mars.html

      Anthony

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  4. Nigel Farage in EU parliament.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjC6UhAM16Y

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