Thursday, December 4, 2014

"The Tsar meets the Sultan"

Written by a blogger for Transitions a "fellow" at the "McCain Institute Next Generation Leader"
Transitions looks to be western affiliated- Linked to the Open Society Foundation aka George Soros
And if I did more digging, what else might I find?

Foreign Policy

This oped is little more then trashy name calling, appeal to authority, smear and just about every other propaganda/logical fallacy imaginable. But. There are two interesting tidbits contained inside..
Russian leader Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan -- perhaps the least popular Western leaders( I would have thought Obama and Netanyahu fit that bill?) -- met in Ankara on Dec. 1 for the Turkey-Russia High Level Cooperation Meeting. The two outspoken, know-it-all presidents (name calling) set aside their major differences on Syria, Ukraine, and Cyprus, and instead sought new ways to deepen the cooperation between Russia and Turkey.
Naturally, Putin chose this moment to declare a gas war with Europe. (What in the helll?) At a joint press conference with Erdogan, the Russian president said that Moscow will stop pursuing plans to build its a gas pipeline to Europe, the controversial South Stream pipeline, and instead draw up plans for a new link to Turkey. On Monday, as Russia carved the headstone for the South Stream gas pipeline, Moscow and Ankara signed a memorandum of understanding to build a new hub.Putin blames the shift on resistance from the European Union. (where it solidly belongs)
"Russian gas will reach other world markets in the form of liquefied natural gas. The EU will not benefit from Russian gas any more," Putin said at the press conference. "That is their choice." Putin also said that anyone who needs Russian gas will have to buy it through Turkey.
For Turkey, the new alliance seems to correspond with Erdogan's recent re-evaluation of relations with the EU. In a TV interview last year, he stated that the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, a security partnership between Russia, China, and several post-Soviet states, is "better and more powerful than the EU." Turks are, as usual, divided in their response to the comment.
The announcement came just after the NATO Secretary General urged Turkey to join the EU in imposing sanctions on Russia.( But, why should Turkey? What has the EU done for Turkey?) But that topic barely figured in the agenda of the Turkish and Russian leaders. Instead, they pledged to triple the volume of trade between the two countries from the current figure of $33 billion to $100 billion by the end of this decade. Turkey is already the second biggest market for Russian gas exports outside of the former Soviet Union, and at this meeting, the leaders also agreed on a natural gas discount to deepen that relationship. At the joint press conference, Putin also announced that Russia will discount the price of natural gas sent to Turkey by 6 percent as of January 1, 2015, and that it will increase the existing capacity of the Blue Stream Natural Gas Pipeline by 3 billion cubic meters. He added that he can offer an even better deal if the two countries reach an agreement on deeper energy cooperation.
In return, Putin would like to see progress on Rosatom's $20 billion project to build Turkey's first nuclear power station at Akkuyu, near the port city Mersin. Turkey is poised to do just that. Turkey's Ministry of Environment and Urban Planning approved a controversial environmental assessment report of Turkey's first nuclear power plant ahead of Putin's visit to the country. According to the media, environmental activists and organizations like Greenpeace warned about the effects of dangerous radioactive waste, and said that they will bring the issue to the courts.
To be sure, Putin and Erdogan disagree on countless issues -- especially when it comes to foreign policy. But neither let these differences overshadow the Ankara meeting. Erdogan criticizes his NATO allies for their weakness in Syria on an almost weekly basis, but he was quite soft on Putin, one of Bashar al-Assad's biggest supporters. Even though both sides repeated their stances, they ultimately buried the hatchet in order to go after a common enemy: the West. (A common enemy- the west? Never mind the fact that the West has gone out of it's way to make itself an enemy.)
Western critics often liken Erdogan's autocratic tendencies to Putin's, and question whether Erdogan is modeling his presidency on the Russian strongman's. (Adhominem) (The German magazine Focus likened Putin's recent meeting with Erdogan to a "tsar meeting with a sultan." The two indeed have much in common. Both embrace the legacy of their imperial pasts. (Erdogan yes, to some degree. Putin? Not really) Both have strong support at home, (Unlike the leadership of US and Canada) though they are accused of being autocrats, or even dictators, abroad. Both have tinkered with their country's constitutions to extend their political life spans. Both have shifted between presidential and prime ministerial posts, altering the balance of power in the process. Both have used the judicial system to crack down on their political opponents. Both have crushed popular protest movements. Both use conspiracy theories to foster nationalism.( LOL what a bit of garbage! I absolutely detest that term and it's common usage. But. Obama and others also use conspiracy theories- persons conspiring ) Both mask their true ideologies under the guise of democracy. ( So, like the US, Canada, Australia, UK etc....) Both have a problematic approach to women's rights... and the list goes on.( more trash. The weaponization of 'rights' movements)
And Erdogan does, indeed, seem to be copying Putin by positioning himself against the West. The Turkish president's image in the West is deteriorating by the day. In fact, just a few days before Putin's visit, Erdogan delivered a speech at the Standing Committee for Economic and Commercial Cooperation of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (COMCEC) in Istanbul and said: "I speak openly: Foreigners love oil, gold, diamonds, and the cheap labor force of the Islamic world. They like the conflicts, fights, and quarrels of the Middle East. Believe me, they don't like us. They look like friends, but they want us dead, they like seeing our children die. How long will we stand that fact?" He also said that Middle Eastern countries could solve their problems by themselves without any help from the West.
Erdogan is not naive; he must realize that his alliance with Russia is not a strategic partnership, but a pragmatic one. But while Turkey may enjoy short-term benefits with this new agreement, he has to ask how it will affect the country's long-term interests. Developing strong relations with Putin may make life more difficult for the EU and the United States, but neither Ankara nor Moscow would be thrilled if Europe pushes for alternative underwater pipelines, such as one that would connect Italy-Greece-Cyprus-Israel.
This, alluded to pipeline, is tied intimately to a topic I have posted about on a number of occasions here at the blog- Last time September 26/14:  East Mediterranean Gas: what kind of a game-changer? If you didn't read it then, maybe you would like to now?
The Turkish president's comments have led some in Washington, in private meetings, to question if Erdogan has completely lost his mind. ( Rhetoric we have heard and read used time and time again) It is perfectly normal for Turkey to have differences with the West from time to time to protect its own national interests, but if Ankara wishes to remain in the NATO alliance, Erdogan, they say, will have to change his rhetoric.
 Who is "they" that say this? That last sentence is the only sentence to be taken seriously in this bit of mostly garbage article- Who are "they" ? And what will "they" do if Erdogan doesn't change his rhetoric?

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  1. I have been to Turkey. I still say the best travel guide is Midnight Express.

    1. HI Steve
      I am not sure it's all so cut and dry with Erdogan as even I used to believe it was- I think Erdogan believes he is the rightful leader of Turkey because he has vast support amongst the people- and that will give him immunity from the coup disease that is common in Turkey- the protests this summer appearing to be a western foment may have given him pause for thought

  2. I have edited the post and added a link to a previous post regarding eastern Mediterranean oil

    The reserves in that area are at the heart of much of the ongoing situation

  3. Anyone who disagrees with the bankers and their empire has by definition "lost their mind". What the article points out is that the empire is very pissed at Erdogan and that Erdogan thinks it is time and safe enough to start leaving the sinking ship.

    Putin offered Turkey lots of money and Erdogan could not resist.

    There will be repercussions as the empire cannot afford to be seen as weak lest other nations follow suit. When the repercussions hit, will Turkey stop helping NATO in Syria?

    1. Hey james

      Good to see you about! Yes, it seems the empire is pissed with Erdogan. It has looked that way for some time now.

      Yes, Putin did offer Erdogan a very appealing deal- lowered prices etc
      You know I am really beginning to question just how much the Erdogan government is cooperating with the Syrian take down- Yes, they are cooperating but how much choice does Turkey really have in the matter?
      This is what I am questioning.

      Recall the map in this post?

      thinking about Turkish involvement in Libya which was all through the IHH and boy the IHH while being an NGO registered as Turkish is anything but a Turkish NGO

      In fact,I came to the conclusion after much reading and writing that the IHH is one of NATO's NGO's placed in Turkey

      So I don't believe that Turkey can actually stop aiding NATO because it's really NATO aiding NATO via their front groups, NGO's etc.,

      Their will be repercussions

  4. Hi Pen,
    I'm sure there are wheels within wheels within the power elite and nobody is their own man.
    After decades of crypto-jewish influence in govt, Pentagon influence in the military and CIA influence in the organised crime scene and involving the govt and military, what you have is an infinitely entangled bunch of thieves running drugs, nuclear technology and anything that has a buck attached to it.

    Then you have the egos of the elite who are offended by not being included in the EU and forever being promised membership if they will just do this one last favour for the AngloZionist Empire. That carrot no longer works because who in their right mind would want to join the EU now.

    Into this snake pit of resentments and thievery, Putin has dropped a bagful of money. Not only with gas discounts and potentially huge profits in transit fees for gas to Europe (revenge is sweet), but the EEU market is being offered unofficially for their manufactured goods and agriculture at a time when the EU market is declining. That equals a lot of largesse for Erdogan to hand around and to sway lots of thieves away from the CIA.

    And the cherry on the top for Turkey is nuclear technology which will put Turkey in a position to manufacture nuclear weapons some time in the future. In these people's minds, nuclear technology equals political and military freedom.

    Putin has lit a fire at NATO's back door and the more NATO tries to stamp it out, the worse the fire will become. There is no honour amongst thieves and I'm sure Russia is depending on that.

    1. Here's a good article from Pepe-
      "Turk Stream": Huge Win for Turkey - Big Win For Russia - Historic Loss for EU

      The fact that the pipeline will end at a hub on the Greek border is extremely significant. Given the deal Russia made with Turkey, the implication is that if Greece drops the sanctions against Russia that it will be provided with cheap gas and access to Russia for its agricultural products again.

      The EU will object, of course, but that will only intensify the pressure on the Greek govt from their own populace to drop the EU. As Greece and the EU continues to transit the economic 'S bend', the choice is going to become a 'no-brainer'.

      So this move by Russia not only threatens the stability of NATO but of the EU too.

    2. Hi james thanks for the links and comment when I have more time I will be back at length
      I would like to rephrase one statement you had made

      'So this move by Russia not only threatens the stability of NATO but of the EU too."

      Concerning the EU? they have no one to blame but themselves and the US for this move- No one.
      Had they acted in the best interests of their citizens they wouldn't have gone along with this nonsense- Instead they kissed the arse of the US and cut their own noses off to spite their own stupid, ugly faces
      The biggest threat to the EU is the EU leadership.
      Hope you don't mind?

    3. Yes, absolutely. We try to get rid of them but to no avail.

    4. Hi Gallier!
      We can't get rid of the idiots because they aren't really ours to get rid of.
      You know what I mean?
      Vote one bunch of idiots out another bunch steps in to take wear the shoes? The problem, I think, is in the system itself..
      Which I hope will collapse via non participation by the masses
      Make sense to you?

  5. Hi Pen,
    I absolutely agree with your statement, too. I think we will see increasing civil disobedience from the people and resistance from the industrialists in the form of funding for alternative political parties. The current parties and politicians are too obviously compromised and captive of the bankers.

    What is needed is for each country to withdraw from the EU, then the Eurozone and finally to nationalise their banks. Once one does it the others will follow. My money is on Greece to do it first.

    1. wouldn't that be brilliant if the countries would just start pulling out of the EU and begin acting for the benefit of their own populations?
      The world should not be fashioned in such a way that the multinational elites psychos are the main concern- It's despicable, really