Thursday, February 12, 2015

Full Text of Minsk- Poroshenko says No Agreement on Autonomy etc.,

UPDATE # 2-

I took the updates out of order because FT had the full text of the Minsk Agreement


Left to right: Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, Russian President Vladimir Putin, German Chancellor Angela Merkel , French President Francois Hollande, and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko gather, prior to their talks in Minsk, Belarus, Wednesday, Feb. 11, 2015. Leaders of Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany are gathering for crucial talks in the hope of negotiating an end fighting between Russia-backed separatist and government forces in eastern Ukraine. (AP Photo/ Mykola Lazarenko/Pool)
Merkel "presents" Poroshenko to Putin- an absurd caption

1. Immediate and comprehensive ceasefire in certain areas in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine and strict implementation of it starting at 00.00, Kiev time, February 15th, 2015.

2. Withdrawal of all heavy weapons by both parties at equal distances to create a security zone of at least 50km from each other for artillery systems of 100mm calibre or more, a security zone 70km wide for multiple-launch rocket systems and a security zone 140km wide for multiple-launch rocket systems Tornado, Uragan, Smerch and tactical missile systems Tochka.
For the Ukrainian troops these distances apply from the actual line of contact. For the armed forces of certain areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine they apply from the contact line in accordance with the Minsk memorandum of September 19th, 2014.
Withdrawal of heavy weapons above shall begin no later than the second day after the start of the ceasefire and be completed within 14 days.
The OSCE, with the support of the Three-Party Contact Group, will contribute to this process.

3. The effective monitoring and verification of the ceasefire and the withdrawal of heavy weapons will be ensured from the side of the OSCE from the first day of the withdrawal, with the help of all necessary means including satellites, drones, radar systems etc.

4. On the first day after the withdrawal a dialogue is to begin on the modalities of local elections in accordance with Ukrainian law and [in particular] Ukrainian Law ‘On the temporary regime of local government in some areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions’, as well as on how these areas are to be run in the future on the basis of that law.
Immediately and not later than 30 days from the date of signing of this document, a resolution is to be adopted in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine indicating the territories covered by the special regime in accordance with the Ukrainian Law ‘On the temporary regime of local government in some areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions’, based on the line set in the Minsk memorandum of September 19th, 2014.

5. Pardons and amnesties will be granted through the enactment of a law prohibiting the prosecution and punishment of persons in connection with the events that took place in some areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine.

6. Hostages and illegally detained persons will be released and exchanged based on the principle ‘all for all’. This process must be completed no later than the fifth day after the withdrawal.

7. Provide secure access, delivery, storage and distribution of humanitarian assistance to the needy on the basis of an international mechanism.

8. Determination of the modalities of the full restoration of socio-economic relations, including social transfers such as pensions and other payments (receipts and income, timely payment of all utility bills, renewal of taxation within the legal framework of Ukraine).
To this end, Ukraine will regain control of the parts of its banking system in conflict-affected areas, and there will possibly be an international mechanism to facilitate such transfers.

9. Restoration of full control over the state border of Ukraine by the government throughout the conflict zone, which should begin on the first day after the local elections and be completed after a comprehensive political settlement (local elections in some areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions on the basis of the Law of Ukraine and constitutional reform) at the end of 2015, subject to paragraph 11 — in consultation and agreement with the representatives of individual areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions in the framework of the Three-Party Contact Group.

10. Withdrawal of all foreign armed forces, military equipment, as well as mercenaries from the territory of Ukraine under the supervision of the OSCE. Disarmament of all illegal groups.

11. Constitutional reform will be conducted in Ukraine, and a new constitution will enter into force by the end of 2015 which is intended as a key element of decentralisation (taking into account the special characteristics of certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions as agreed with representatives of these areas). Also a permanent law is to be adopted by the end of 2015 on the special status of certain areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions in accordance with the measures specified in Note [1].

12. On the basis of the Law of Ukraine ‘On the temporary regime of local government in some areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions’ questions regarding local elections will be discussed and agreed with certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions in the framework of the Three-Party Contact Group. Elections will be held in compliance with the relevant standards of the OSCE in monitoring by the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights.

13. To intensify the activities of the Three-Party Contact Group, including through the establishment of working groups to implement the relevant aspects of the Minsk Agreement. They will reflect the composition of the Three-Party Contact Group.
Note 1:
Such measures, in accordance with the Law ‘On the temporary regime of local government in certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions’ include the following:
— Exemption from punishment, harassment and discrimination of individuals associated with the events that took place in some areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions;
— The right to self-determination of language;
— Participation of local governments in the appointment of heads of prosecutors and courts in certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions;
— The possibility for the central executive authorities to conclude with the relevant local authorities an agreement on economic, social and cultural development of certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions;
— The State shall support socio-economic development of certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions;
— Assistance from the central government for cross-border co-operation in selected areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions and the regions of the Russian Federation;
— The creation of people’s militia units to address local councils in order to maintain public order in certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions;
— The powers of local council deputies and officers elected in early elections, appointed by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on this law, cannot be terminated.
Signed by the participants of the Three-Party Contact Group:
Ambassador Heidi Tagliavini
The second President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma
Ambassador of the Russian Federation, to Ukraine Mikhail Zurabov
Alexander Zakharchenko
Igor Plotnitsky

Poroshenko says no Agreement on Autonomy?
MINSK, Belarus (AP) — Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko says talks in Minsk did not include any agreement on autonomy for the rebel-held areas in eastern Ukraine.

Russia-backed separatists have been fighting government forces since April. Their early demands of federalization culminated in a May referendum for independence.

Poroshenko told reporters Thursday Ukraine has not agreed to the federalization of the country or even autonomy to the region.

The Ukrainian leader earlier said the parties in Minsk agreed to withdraw heavy weaponry from the front line and help Ukraine reclaim the control of the border with Russia
UPDATE #3
 Poroshenko After Minsk Talks: Donbas Autonomy, Federalization Not an Option
Ukraine’s President Petro Poroshenko has flatly rejected the idea of granting a broad autonomy to the eastern Donbas region, and of making Ukraine a federation.
“Ukraine was, is and will remain a unitary state. Federalization is not an option,” President Poroshenko wrote on his Facebook page in the immediate wake of the four-sided talks on ending the yearlong conflict, which wrapped up in Minsk on Thursday.

UPDATE # 1 
Significant differences remain as leaders of Russia and Ukraine gather for crucial talks that aim to end the fighting between the Russian-backed separatists and government forces that has torn up eastern Ukraine, writes Vladimir Isachenkov of The Associated Press

Reported as:Russian-backed separatists fire a mortar toward Ukrainian troops outside Sanzharivka, Ukraine

Can anyone verify that these are separatist rebels? It looks to me that they are, but, haven't followed this as closely as the Syrian situation to be certain.

WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE?
Ukraine says a new ceasefire deal must respect a division line agreed upon in September's peace agreement. Russia, however, wants to move that line back to include the significant territorial gains the rebels have made since then. Although the original Minsk agreement envisaged that each party pulls heavy artillery back 15 kilometres from the line of division, French President Fran├žois Hollande says the plan under negotiation would see a 50-to 70-kilometre demilitarized zone.
THE WITHDRAWAL OF FIGHTERS, WEAPONS
Ukraine's key demand is that Russia withdraw its troops and weapons from the country. Ukraine and the West say Russia has fuelled the insurgency with soldiers and equipment and accused it of breaching the original Minsk agreement that envisaged the pullout of foreign fighters. Moscow denies the accusations and insists the Russians fighting alongside the rebels are volunteers. The number of sophisticated heavy weapons in rebel hands belies that denial.
WHO CONTROLS THE BORDER?
Ukraine is demanding that it gets back control over its border with Russia and that rebels hand back border posts they have captured. It also wants the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe to monitor the border to stem the flow of Russian troops and weapons. Russia has allowed OSCE monitors at two border checkpoints, but said the OSCE needs to talk to the rebels to monitor other sections of the border. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov warned Wednesday that border controls could
only be fully restored after Ukraine gives a broad autonomy to the east, grants amnesty to the rebels and ends its financial blockade of rebel-controlled areas.
UKRAINE'S DESIRE TO JOIN NATO
Russian President Vladimir Putin's concerns that Ukraine will join NATO triggered the current crisis and he will keep urging the West to guarantee Ukraine will not become part of the military alliance. The West says Ukraine has a sovereign right to determine its own future. Concessions on the subject are unlikely.
AUTONOMY FOR REBEL-HELD AREAS
The exact measure of autonomy for Ukraine's rebellious east is a major sticking point in the talks. Russia has demanded Kyiv approve a wide autonomy for the separatist eastern regions, hoping that would allow Moscow to preserve leverage over its neighbour and prevent Ukraine from ever joining NATO. Shortly after September's peace deal, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko signed a law offering broad rights to the rebel-controlled territories, including local elections under Ukrainian law and the ability to form their own police force. But the rebels rejected the law as inadequate and went ahead with their own local elections that Ukraine and the West dismissed as a sham.
PEACEKEEPERS
Russia has talked about the potential deployment of international peacekeepers to monitor the ceasefire, while Ukraine has remained cautious. Russia appears to want a peacekeeping contingent that includes soldiers from Moscow-friendly ex-Soviet countries - something Ukraine reportedly opposes.

27 comments:

  1. Hi Penny,

    Just a quick comment to confirm that the mortar team in the photo are from the militia.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cs0KzSHTtU

    Anthony

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  2. To use a boxing analogy, the militia are a gutsy and canny middle weight fighting a huge lumbering heavyweight who is more at home beating up old ladies.

    The Ukraine has the west in it's corner and the militia has Russia.

    Unfortunately for the militia, it's Russian cornerman has bet against an outright victory for it's fighter and therefore calls time whenever the militia start to really hurt their opponent.

    The first betrayal last Summer was bad enough, but this was one really hurts. Putin is playing Realpolitik and maybe the stakes really are so high that the selling out of the people of the Donbass is a tactical necessity, but it feels even worse than the first Minsk agreement.

    It really does seem that the good people never ever win in this world, but maybe the tables are turned in the spiritual world. I happen to believe that that is indeed the case.

    Anthony

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    1. Hi Anthony
      Oddly enough I see this agreement as a big nothing, going no where, maybe I am wrong, but, I can't see how it will make any difference at all.

      I figure that both sides have a couple of days to get done, what they can get do- and then plan from there- I do see the Rada passing any sort of law regarding the regions as set out in the agreement
      I expect Poroshenko to be overthrown in short order, that is what I truly expect and then all bets are off from there

      Of course I could be wrong, I can always be, but as of this moment- I am callin' as I see it

      And Anthony- good people will win- small victories piling on small victories will lead to big wins.

      signs abound- look at big pharma, right now, running scared their heavy handed tactics are so obvious-

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    2. oops, my bad- that should read
      I DON'T see the Rada passing any sort of law regarding the seperatist regions as set out in the agreement

      'Immediately and not later than 30 days from the date of signing of this document, a resolution is to be adopted in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine indicating the territories covered by the special regime in accordance with the Ukrainian Law"

      Not happening. And the law to be enacted by the end of the year, not going to happen

      btw did you notice the special consideration for the banks?

      ' Ukraine will regain control of the parts of its banking system in conflict-affected areas, and there will possibly be an international mechanism to facilitate such transfers"

      Of course..

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  3. Stephen Lendman's analysis.

    What's Next in Donbass?

    http://sjlendman.blogspot.ca/2015/02/whats-next-in-donbas.html

    What the hell was the rush to find an agreement?

    The militia were once again in the driving seat. The Ukranian army surrounded again. Why not play tough and demand so much more?

    I feel very bad about this, and I wonder how much worse the militia in the field must be feeling as they relive the moment when Putin snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Anthony

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    1. did they sign on to this agreement? I heard somewhere the rebels did, but, hadn't been able to check on that
      do you know, anthony?

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  4. There has been heavy fighting in the Debalcevo pot and in the south on the coast near Mariupol.

    The Ukrainians have attacked the settlement of Logvinovo on the M03 from the north and south, but reports are that the militia have held on with heavy losses on the Ukrainian side. The following figures are for today only.

    "During the day, Kiev lost 127 soldiers killed, 200 were wounded, including loss of equipment - 7 tanks, 11 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 14 artillery systems."

    Militia losses have been relatively light because they have the massive strategic advantage of controlling the hills on both sides of the road. Even if the Ukrainians did manage to clear the very small settlement on the road, they would still be exposed to militia fire from both sides of the road for many miles.

    Once again, kamikaze tactics from the Ukrainians with no regard for the lives of their own men.

    In the south, the militia had been expecting an offensive out of Mariupol and they were correct, but bizarrely the Azov battalion reported fuel shortages only a handful of miles from the city. Here as well, despite massive Ukrainian shelling, the militia is holding its own.

    In the meantime, indiscriminate shelling of civilians by the Ukrainians continues every day and night, which shows up the recent western hysteria about isolated incidents in Kramatorsk and Mariupol to have been false flag events. In Kramatorsk we were even shown Bernhard Henri Levy being shown around by Poroshenko. The smell of sulphur must have been overpowering.

    Anthony

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    1. I saw BHL and Poroshenko together in a pic, I think at Saker's
      BHL is such a disgusting individual- where he goes death and destruction follow- but keep in mind he was with Poroshenko
      that may tell us something

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  5. Short message to the "Putin sold out" folks: guys, I have been ignoring your mantric repetition of unsubstantiated slogans about Putin "selling out" and "backstabbing" and all the rest, but I will tell you that not a single one of you has ever been capable of making a coherent, fact based and logically supported analysis proving your point.  I think that mantras are great for yoga, but on this blog, they don't make you look any smarter.  I let you post them here "because why not?" but please don't mistake that with a sign of respect for the nonsense you have spewing.  The main reason why I don't debunk your nonsense is that time will do a much better job then I could, and that it will hurt you more when you are proven wrong not by my reasoning, but by undisputed facts on the ground (just like those who screamed that Putin betrayed Assad and Syria by making them, quote, "give up their only deterrence against Israeli nuclear weapons").  Anyway, if you must, keep on with the mantra but please be aware that they only make you look very sophomoric.  And considering that there are still a few blogs out there taking the same position (though less and less), you might want to consider posting there.  There each slogan, especially when expressed with a virile and categorical lack of nuances, will get you a standing ovation.  Why suffer here when there are those "heavens of consensus" out there?  Just think about it :-)

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    1. What is the entire point of this comment? I haven't a clue.
      Are you quoting someone?
      Or is the just gibberish? Again, no idea

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    2. The commenter mixed up may be the blog he wanted to comment to. On vineyardsaker's blog it would have made a lot of sense, in yours, not so much. ;-)

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    3. Hi Penny,

      The comment above is a 100% cut and paste from this article in Vineyard of the Saker which is why it makes no sense here.

      Anthony

      http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/2015/02/the-useless-agreement-which-everybody.html

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    4. thanks gallier and anthony: I wondered what the heck it was about- or even who it was directed at? It seemed completely out of sync, so, I better look at sakers, I guess?

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    5. In the Saker article there is a modest list of advantages ascribed to the militia.

      1) The Novorussians:
      a) a stop of the terror attacks by the junta on Novorussian cities.
      b) the recognition of the line of contact
      c) the assurance that Voentorg remains open (control of border)
      d) time to mobilize and train their planned 100'000 extra men
      e) the recognition by all parties (including the Europeans) that they deserve a special status

      However,

      a) The junta didn't stop the terror attacks after Minsk 1. Why should they be trusted now?
      b) Recognition of the line of contact. Ditto. Plus where exactly is the line to be drawn? Nobody likes giving up hard won or hard defended territory.
      c) Control of the border was won by the militia during the Spring and Summer fighting last year. There should be no question of surrendering it and allowing themselves to be encircled again.
      d) Wrong. Not 100,000 extra men, but an increase from 45,000 to 100,000. However, the milita relies on volunteers, many of whom from Russia, many of whom will have families to support. How long can these men stay to fight? Unlike the conscripted Ukrainians who are basically captives at the Junta's pleasure. I felt that the positive momentum created by militia successes was their best recruitment factor. I suppose that will be replaced by the desire for revenge and there are plenty of grounds for that.
      e) I just don't see this at all. The Europeans don't give a fig for the rights of the Novorussians, but they do fear their American bosses and the effects of Russian economic retaliation.

      Fighting (and shelling) has intensified since the Minsk agreement. The militia have proven to be courageous, masterful and superbly discplined fighters while the Ukranians have a number of paramilitary extremist units some of whom have spoken out against the agreement.

      If the ceasefire does fail, then I expect the Ukrainians to be responsible and I also expect the militia to be fully prepared. The local leadership has proven to be top rate. They have my utmost respect.

      Anthony

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    6. Another Stephen Lendman article about the Minsk agreement.

      The Psaki lies about Ukraine abiding by the Minsk 1 agreement are mind boggling. That woman has Chutzpah that would Netanyahu blush. Or maybe not.

      Anthony

      http://sjlendman.blogspot.de/2015/02/minsk-agreement-whats-most-important-to.html

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  6. Here is the viewpoint of Igor Strelkow.
    Anthony

    "13.02.15. "There is nothing fundamentally changed." Surrender "New Russia in the format that suits Poroshenko (ie Pindos) GDP can not allow and will not, as they claim - more or less veiled surrender." Partner Peter A. "again" framed "their friends - Surkov and Zurabova that year as soon convince the president to the possibility of" peaceful settlement ", although without the defeat of the junta it was not, and never will be and they know it better than you. But even if today or tomorrow in Minsk something "jelly-like" and sign - the war will continue its "natural course" - as well as after the "Minsk-1" - ie ukry continue their preparations for the "big war with Russia" ( simultaneously turning the whole Donbass in ruins "Stalingrad") and we will continue to have almost anecdotal "jump on the rake" Surkov ... well done ... it gave ukry were saved from destruction and 5 months with shell Donetsk Lugansk. And then they will fire . Hero of Ukraine. Together with Zurabov. Negotiate with ukrami - it's like to sit down to play cards with a hardened gambler. With it - many times in a row. In general, as I said - have the "Minsk-2.0" - absolutely unsustainable. A kind of another "fig leaf" designed to cover almost one year of age failure of Russian foreign policy in the Ukrainian direction. How, indeed, expected. This is a "truce" with 90% probability "die without being born." (The other 10% I leave to the possibility that "the flag of" New Russia still "merge" (but this is very unlikely due to the firm position on the issue of GDP)). "The game is not worth the candle" and "much ado about nothing." Is that diplomats now scribbling a few months. I believe that if one of the two opponents wants reconciliation and the other firmly going to fight, fight will take place anyway. Therefore it is necessary to recall the ancient classics: "If you want peace - prepare for war." Second, the intervention of "friends" began to "Independence" and since then has not stopped. But almost completely convinced that war with Russia with their own hands they will not. They will fight "until the last stole" - yes. And Weapons (trainers, money, etc.) for this purpose will not regret. Their plan "clear as glass" - prolong the war (without giving Russia win a decisive victory) until the moment when the economic and political situation in Russia will not lead to a "palace coup" and of the "new power" they will get everything required to "makeweight ". As long as everything goes nihz - primarily due to the "5th column in power", which should be fully in accordance with this plan. " "Push ukrov from cities BCH can not. This should have been done in September - October, when the APU were defeated and demoralized. Now the balance of forces is such that only the tactical successes. In such losses (although ukrov loss about twice, but ukrov and number, and the possibility of replenishment fundamentally different), and at this rate operations, push the front at a safe distance will except that after six months, if not longer. And this is without taking into account the upcoming Ukrii 5th and 6th waves and massive mobilization of military equipment from the West (and so it is in large numbers, however). Ie correlation of forces "VSN / APU" is constantly changing in favor of the latter. "

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    1. Hi Anthony- this went through translate so it's hard to get entirely but, the gist of it seems to be exactly what I had thought of whole thing
      From my comment yesterday-

      "Oddly enough I see this agreement as a big nothing, going no where, maybe I am wrong, but, I can't see how it will make any difference at all"

      It's been interesting to listen to Rick Rozoff as of late from stop NATO, he is emotional and can't understand why Russia participated in this- but from my point of view- This was such a sideshow it was meaningless so why not participate in it, it's good for PR

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    2. This is interesting and if I am reading this correctly...
      It's on par with what I have been thinking-
      I suspect that the west/NATO isn't looking for a 'win' in Ukraine- they don't give a care- what they want is to plant the seeds for regime change in Russia- And they are using Ukraine to get that rolling
      That appears to me to be what is being said and this may be why Putin participated- He knows this is a plan that will take time to unwind, so might as well go through the motions

      Their plan "clear as glass" - prolong the war (without giving Russia win a decisive victory) until the moment when the economic and political situation in Russia will not lead to a "palace coup" and of the "new power" they will get everything required to "makeweight "

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  7. Hi Penny,

    You wrote that the good guys always win and it seemed quite apt that this quote was on the Zen Gardener site.

    Anthony

    “When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” - Mahatma Gandhi

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    1. Hey Anthony

      was I interpreting Strelkov correctly?

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    2. Hi Penny,

      You're right that it's hard work making sense of these automatic translations, but after reading the text again I would say you are spot on with the following:

      "I suspect that the west/NATO isn't looking for a 'win' in Ukraine- they don't give a care- what they want is to plant the seeds for regime change in Russia- And they are using Ukraine to get that rolling
      That appears to me to be what is being said and this may be why Putin participated- He knows this is a plan that will take time to unwind, so might as well go through the motions"

      This is what I meant above when I feared that the interests of the people of the Donbass and the militia might be sacrificed in the interests of Realpolitik.

      However, I will be delighted if I'm proved to be wrong.

      The agreement really does seem to be built on diplomatic sand with various parties apparently unwilling to fulfil their part of the bargain while the west lays all the blame on Russia and the militia.

      On the battlefield, this would seem to be some of, if not the heaviest fighting of the war. The militia keep holding off Ukrainian attempts to free pot from outside and inside, while the militia have now apparently launched an attack on the town Debalcevo that sounds like a serious attempt to seize control. The militia have brought in their best assault troops and the videos of the militia I've seen show them looking confident and very determined. There are more reports of Ukrainian atrocities which only serve to increase the fighting spirit of the militia.

      Anthony

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    3. Thanks Anthony

      'This is what I meant above when I feared that the interests of the people of the Donbass and the militia might be sacrificed in the interests of Realpolitik.

      Right now I don't think that is the case- based on info at hand and just my own thoughts. Keep in mind the militia is gaining ground and that tells us what we need to know. The support is there

      " the militia have now apparently launched an attack on the town Debalcevo that sounds like a serious attempt to seize control"

      They clearly don't feel as if they are being sold out or let down, they are pushing forward, I think that's a good sign anthony

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  8. Here is the BBC summary of the two Minsk accords at the bottom of this article.

    For example:

    Withdrawal of troops

    Ukrainian army pulls back from current frontline, but rebels retreat from 19 Sep 2014 line, so some recent rebel gains will be lost.

    Control of Ukraine-Russia border

    Ukraine to regain full control of border only after local elections in Donetsk and Luhansk and after a full political settlement - deadline is end of 2015.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31449981

    Anthony

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    1. Wow, the BBC is silly eh?
      Since nothing agreed to in Minsk 1 ever happened.

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  9. The head of the Donetsk Republic Alexander Zakharchenko is reportedly on the front line (or close to it) in the town of Debalcevo.

    The militia have said that since the Debalcevo pot is cut off from the Ukrainian lines, it constitutes enemy fighters within militia territory and is therefore not subject to the ceasefire agreement. The militia offer to the Ukrainian army still stands. Lay down your weapons and you can leave. Try to break out (or in) and we will stop you. There is street fighting in Debalcevo and other areas of the pot. The Ukrainians of course have no means of resupply.

    Elsewhere, the Dejavu from Minsk 1 is apparent. The Ukrainians are still shelling Donetsk, especially the airport, where they have launched attacks on what for them seems to be the ultimate prestige target. Literal terror attacks on civilian targets are carried out at any time of day or night, for example the recent murder (days before the ceasefire) of three young children hiding in the bathroom of their small house.

    In the south, there are continuing battles to the east of Mariupol involving the Azov paramilitaries but there the militia held their ground.

    Canada is apparently going to provide military support for the Ukrainian government, including advisors in the Ukraine as well as sniper rifles and anti tank weapons.

    Anthony

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    1. Hi Anthony- I am sad to say Canada is indeed providing military support as well as so called advisor or trainers- of course the gov is lying saying they won't be near the front lines etc
      All lies- that's how it is here- All lies all the time

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