I put this comment at MoALet me get the Bin Laden death and intro of ISIS out of the way first:
Not sure if it posted- that place is funny sometimes- funny as in strange
re: the Sy Hersh piece.
"Is someone trying to apply pressure on him."
Him being Salman and Saudi Arabia
Or...has this story been created to further demonize Saudi Arabia- for when the tide turns. And Saudi Arabia becomes a less favoured nation.
Along the same line of what we have seen the last little while with Turkey-
The death of Bin Laden was necessary for the creation of ISIS
It's pretty obvious in hindsight, isn't it?
Bin Laden killed 4 years ago- ISIS introduced to us as the new global terror threat about two years ago. ISIS being an affilliate allegedly of AQ,with a new figure head Al Baghadadi, who has died or not on at least two occasions already- Rebrand.
An obvious rebrand. OBL and AQ: tired and stale
Rebrand: ISIS (easy to recall, fresh, associated with a goddess/deity making the feminists quite happy) and a new 'leader' Al Baghdadi: Mythopoeia- Abu Bakr al Baghdadi
He who has as many lives as OBL- In other words only the names have changed- Everything else is the same.
There is a post here on the alleged death of OBL:
I didn't believe the narrative then and don't care about the rewrite now! There is, however, something else in Sy Hersh's article that is much more relevant to present day. And is the reason, in my opinion, for the appearance/promotion/attention being given to this new narrative.
"Or...has this story been created to further demonize Saudi Arabia- for when the tide turns. And Saudi Arabia becomes a less favoured nation.
Along the same line of what we have seen the last little while with Turkey-"
Sy Hersh: The Killing of Osama Bin Laden
The changed narrative presented in the linked Sy Hersh article does not dispute or disagree with the official narrative “We (US) got OBL in Pakistan”. The reinforcement of that lie is right in the headline "The Killing of Osama Bin Laden" What Sy Hersh’s article feels & reads like is the creation or shifting of a narrative, for the next chapter of a very long and ugly work of fiction, that passes for our reality.
I will quote the paragraphs that relate directly to the plot redirection- Framing Saudi Arabia, prepping the audience for the imminent destabilization of Saudi Arabia. Which has already begun with Yemen. If you’ve been paying attention here, you know this has previously been mentioned.
Quoting relevant paragraphs from Sy Hersh’s supposedly startling/shocking article:
“A worrying factor at this early point, according to the retired official, was Saudi Arabia, which had been financing bin Laden’s upkeep since his seizure by the Pakistanis. ‘The Saudis didn’t want bin Laden’s presence revealed to us because he was a Saudi, and so they told the Pakistanis to keep him out of the picture. The Saudis feared if we knew we would pressure the Pakistanis to let bin Laden start talking to us about what the Saudis had been doing with al-Qaida. And they were dropping money – lots of it. The Pakistanis, in turn, were concerned that the Saudis might spill the beans about their control of bin Laden. The fear was that if the US found out about bin Laden from Riyadh, all hell would break out. The Americans learning about bin Laden’s imprisonment from a walk-in was not the worst thing.”Debunking nonsense
“Adding to the tension was the Pakistani nuclear arsenal, often depicted in the Western press as an ‘Islamic bomb’ that might be transferred by Pakistan to an embattled nation in the Middle East in the event of a crisis with Israel”
“Saudi Arabia financing Bin Laden’s upkeep”
Bin Laden the multimillionaire? Bin Laden the son of a billionaire?
Requiring Saudi upkeep? I don't think so
“The Saudis feared if we knew we would pressure the Pakistanis to let bin Laden start talking to us about what the Saudis had been doing with al-Qaida. And they were dropping money – lots of it.”
Why would the Saudis fear Pakistan talking about AQ? Seriously? The US was always fully aware of the Bin Laden/Saudi/Pakistan/AQ connection because they fully participated in employed and benefited from that entire operation. That cooperation loomed very large in Afghanistan, Kosovo and 9/11 amongst other times and places.
Interview from 1998: Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski,
President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser: Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998
Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
I simply do NOT believe the claim that the Saudi’s were in fear of the US being made aware of their connection to AQ. The US KNEW and were complicit, as was Pakistan- I ask what is the purpose of that bit of baloney being included other then to portray Saudi Arabia as a terror supporting state?
"Adding to the tension was the Pakistani nuclear arsenal, often depicted in the Western press as an ‘Islamic bomb’ that might be transferred by Pakistan to an embattled nation in the Middle East in the event of a crisis with Israel”Since the only Middle east nation mentioned in this article is Saudi Arabia, is the implication being made that Pakistan could or would transfer a bomb or nuclear material to Saudi Arabia?
Just something to keep in mind.
Let’s see if this narrative - Pakistani nuke to Saudi Arabia- appears or is reinforced any time soon?
That's what I had written last week. Actually, I had more about Turkey also. But we're getting long here....
Well, well, well!!!! That sure didn't take long.........
I didn't think it would. Not after the Sy Hersh treatment. Lookie here, lookie here!
This one could be seen coming from miles away!
S. Arabia calls in off-the-shelf nuke option with Pakistan – report
Or Saudis ‘to get nuclear weapons’
The story originates with an unnamed former defense official from the US.
Exactly like Sy Hersh's unnamed source in his alleged expose!
SAUDI ARABIA has taken the “strategic decision” to acquire “off-the-shelf” atomic weapons from Pakistan, risking a new arms race in the Middle East, according to senior American officials.
Saudi Arabia has reportedly taken a decision to call in an old favor from Pakistan and get some of its nuclear weapons.
Saudi Arabia is widely believed to have bankrolled the Pakistani nuclear weapons program. In exchange, Riyadh reportedly expects Islamabad to provide missiles in times of trouble to defend the kingdom.
“For the Saudis the moment has come,” a former American defense official told The Sunday Times newspaper. “There has been a longstanding agreement in place with the Pakistanis, and the House of Saud has now made the strategic decision to move forward.”
According to the report, no actual transfer of weapons has taken place yet, but “the Saudis mean what they say and they will do what they say,” the source reportedly said.Very interesting from earlier today!