Saturday, August 29, 2015

Is Turkey Heading to Partition? American Enterprise Institute

Well, well, well. So let’s see I’ve been prognosticating the destabilization/destruction of Turkey for how long now? I had dropped hints through out the blog on many an occasion.
 But then finally in November 2014 I started solidifying my theory
Flashback  nearly 10 months ago:

Kurd/ ISIS Symbiosis- The impending destruction of Turkey

Followed immediately by:

Pt.2- Kurd/ ISIS Symbiosis- The impending destruction of Turkey

After that two post kick off  there have been numerous other posts delving deeper into and expanding a bit more on the subject of Kurd/ISIS symbiosis leading to the impending destruction of Turkey. The Kurd/ISIS symbiosis is not coincidence. That symbiosis points to a cohesion. As stated here on multiple occasions.
I took my lumps for this theory. I was derided. Attacked. Trolls visited. I seem to have been blocked from gatekeeper sites for pointing out what appeared obvious to me.

So considering my thesis? I was completely unsurprised to see this piece from Michael Rubin at American Enterprise Institute.

Michael Rubin

American Enterprise Institute- Total Neo - Con, everything for Israel & Zionists, think tank. Not really a surprise considering so much of the information that’s been posted here on the subject of the collusion between Israel & Kurds. Remaking the middle east for the benefit of Israel/NATO Including the inevitable terror state creation which will be known as Kurdistan.

Is Turkey heading to Partition-

Is Turkey heading to partition?

Foreign and Defense Policy, Middle East

The Turkish government, its military, and Turkish diplomats may deny any implication that partition could be Turkey’s fate, and US officials will do so publicly, but behind the hot denials, it seems increasingly likely that some sort of division will be the second order effect of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s cynical drive toward autocracy.

Yes, yes, blame Erdogan- didn't I point out the demonization of Erdogan had begun in earnest?

Erdogan "ensconced in his Palace"- Yup, it's the dreaded Dictator/Palace Meme!

It is now clear that Erdogan’s much ballyhooed interest in a peace process with the Kurds was motivated less out of a desire for peace and more for electoral gain. Erdogan hoped that he could leverage Kurdish support to provide a deathblow to Kemalism while at the same time providing Erdogan with the support he would need to change the constitution to solidify his position.
 It was the Kurds that breached the ceasefire! I've covered that here.

PKK Ended Ceasefire Weeks Ago? A stream of the latest news

"When the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) agreed to a ceasefire in 2013, they were in a strong position: They controlled territory in Hakkari and southeastern Turkey, and had growing overt support among Turkey’s Kurds. Years of purges and arrests of the top brass by Erdogan had left the Turkish Army demoralized and a shadow of its former self. Indeed, the Turkish military has in just over a decade gone from being among NATO’s fiercest and capable to little more than a banana republic level of competence. The PKK also had nothing to lose. Imprisoned since 1999, Turkish authorities had long declared PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan irrelevant. But, by seeking to negotiate with Öcalan, Erdogan affirmed his relevancy as the predominant Kurdish politician"
That's right Erdogan tried and tried to negotiate with the Kurds, including with their drug running PKK terror leader Ocalan. To no avail. Because the Kurd "stay behind" /NATO drug running militants had other plans

EXCLUSIVE: Former top PKK commander Osman Ocalan speaks.

"Erdogan’s buffoonery also has had a price. Diplomats may favor stability over change, but Turkish support in the international community is no longer solid. The list of places where Erdogan has made himself persona non grata is long. He is not welcome in Egypt, Libya, the Palestinian Authority, Israel, Syria, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and perhaps even Saudi Arabia. His reception in Europe and a post-Obama United States will be cool"
Erdogan is definitely getting the NATO cold shoulder- As was stated here a month ago!

NATO Bows Out on Turkey. Turkey and Article 4

By embracing Hamas as both a liberation movement and a group with democratic legitimacy, he undercut any opposition to the outside world treating the PKK the same. After all, the PKK—through its electoral proxies—has won majority support in southeastern Turkey.
 The electoral proxy is of course the HDP party- you know the identity politics/divide to conquer party? If you've read here for a while now you know what it is I am referencing!

Stealing an AKP win? HDP = Divisive Identity Politics- NGO's counting ballots

"The major difference between Hamas and the PKK is that the former targets civilians with terrorism and attacks indiscriminately, while the latter wages much more of an insurgency"
What nonsense from Michael Rubin- The Kurdish militias have been wantonly killing, raping, stealing, ethnically cleansing and generally abusing everyone. Including other Kurds. I've covered that many, many times!

Erdogan may have been shocked by his failure in June 2015 to win a majority of seats in parliament, but rather than abide by the spirit of democracy, he has sought to subvert it further. New elections will now be on November 1, but the combination of Erdogan’s drive to assert dictatorial powers and his efforts to suppress the main Kurdish party and its supporters may be the final nail not in Kemalism but rather in the territorial integrity of the Republic of Turkey. Charismatic Kurdish politician Selahattin Demirtas, co-chair of the Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP), has declared that the curfew imposed by the government on Kurdish supporters of the HDP gives the Kurds little choice but to demand autonomy.
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk declared the Republic of Turkey almost 92 years ago. Erdogan increasingly shows himself to be the anti- Atatürk in more ways than one. It’s no longer a question of secularism vs. Islamism. It may take a decade, but it is time to begin the countdown to the partition of Turkey. The Kurds will have their state, and its capital will ultimately be Diyarbakir, not Erbil.
 A partitioned Turkey- It's in motion- The American Enterprise Institute has just planted the seeds for the public outing of that plan. Of course, you all read it here first! 

Internet gatekeepers/dupes keep on pushing the 'fierce' Kurd meme!! It helps NATO/Israel so very much. It serves NATO/Israeli interests quite well.  Keep shoring up the artificially contrived good cop/bad cop routine. There is no difference between the Kurds/ISIS. They are one & the same in this situation. Each "cop" has their job to do. They are performing their assigned duties. Remaking the ME. Nation destroying. Killing civilians. Forcing the relocation of people who have homes, jobs, families etc. from their  own nation state. Driving these intentionally displaced persons onto cohesive societies in Europe in order to break down and destroy those long standing European societies. Enriching human, organ and drug traffickers. As for Kurdistan? It won't even benefit the Kurds. It will represent the expansion of Israel.


  1. I wonder if the clowns at nato have thought about moving the nukes out of turkey. Then again I also wonder who their military loyal to?

    1. Hi jo!

      I suspect that Turkey`s military has very divided loyalties- and they will also follow the money-
      The nukes in Turkey are likely on the American/NATO bases
      Turkey is chock full of not Turkish bases which is why I had difficulty with the Incirluk narrative as presented by the msm

      map of bases:

      nuclear weapons etc:

    2. My guess is that the Turkish military is loyal to the US. Their senior officers are trained and indoctrinated in the US and have been thoroughly bought by them. Then there is all the military co-operation with NATO forces and their senior personnel. They all drink in the same 'Officers Mess', so to speak. I would think that the Turkish generals are all entrapped in a US/NATO spider's web and it will be a brave general that tries to break out.

      Another military coup may well be on the horizon to 'restore peace and stability' (for the US)

    3. Hi james- Likely their family loyalties would be a factor in their loyalty to nation state- particularly for the lower ranks.

      This really makes me think back to the Turkish general meeting in Libya before Ambassador Stevens was killed- Was he doing NATO's bidding
      I would assume the answer is yes!

  2. Looking back, I have to presume that the Russians would have foreseen the distinct possibility of this conflict within Turkey and NATO when they offered Turkstream to Erdogan.

    The Russians must have known the US would react to Erdogan's co-operation with Russia over Turkstream. I think it is predictable what will happen when you drop a bundle of money into a group of thieves. It would be typical of Russia to take advantage of their adversaries' corrupt characters.

    And kudos, Pen, in picking Turkey's fate long ago.

    1. "I have to presume that the Russians would have foreseen the distinct possibility of this conflict within Turkey and NATO"

      I would definitely figure they saw this coming. They have intelligence access that I don't have- if I could figure this out using smarts and the msm reports - they are surely ahead of the game in this case

      Thanks for the kudos james- I appreciate that- as opposed to the usual name calling of bigot and insane accusations of being on "erdogan's payroll" from nutjobs coming here to attack me- Of course there were other more 'clever' trolls too, as you know James. So it's nice to be appreciated :)

      I've learned to be very leery of so called "alternative" media- that is not very alternative at all
      And plan to continue on my own merry way :)

    2. Good for you, Pen.

      I agree with you re 'alternative media'. Usually they provide lots of data but no attempt to 'join the dots'. So there's no logical argument employed and no understandable meaning provided i.e. there's no clear meaning given to it. Or put another way, there's no 'why'. It is usually just an appeal to emotion.

      If a conclusion is provided, it is done so without the supporting logic and is merely provided after various 'facts' (which may or may not be substantiated). There is no connection between facts and conclusion. In other words, the proposition is a 'non sequitur.'

  3. Response to jawbone @ MOA
    who does not realize I have been marginalized by b for some time now.. but then gatekeepers being gatekeepers..

    Hi Jawbone@52

    There is quite a bit of information of Israel's water theft from Israel
    Syrian letter to the UN 2010,7340,L-3975201,00.html

    "Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al Muallem sent UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon a letter on Monday, in which he appealed for the UN to stop Israel from "stealing water from the occupied Golan Heights".

    Link to a book, which discusses just how far back this goes


    Hope you do see this response? I will post it at my place also, for some reason b marginalizes my comments.....

    Al Muallem charged that "Israeli occupation forces diverted the Golan waters to the settlements. By these actions they not only prevent our citizens from fulfilling their natural rights to the resource, but could also lead to an economic and environmental disaster which could have disastrous consequences for Syrians living in the Golan."

    Rather surprising that b didn't focus on this long, long standing battle between Israel and Syria over water rights.

    Posted by: Penny | August 30, 2015 at 02:42 PM