Monday, August 3, 2015

Islamic State Woos Kurdish Attackers in Turkey- Damage Control Extraordinaire

Coming hot on the heels of SAS/ISIS damage control: SAS dress as ISIS fighters in undercover war on jihadis- Humour?! Today we see the Wall Street Journal is engaging in the Kurds/ ISIS spin/damage control.

Damage control defined for clarification: measures taken to offset or minimize damage to reputation, credibility, or public image.

Why might damage control be necessary at this time? 

The short answer is because their have been 2, yes 2, suicide bombings that took place in Turkey- both linked to Kurds affiliated with ISIS.  Then there is also the problem of how it is that Turkey attacking ISIS is the same as Turkey attacking Kurds?
And that dear readers is a HUGE problem! Because those occurrences suggest that rather then having a combative relationship, ISIS and Kurds have a cooperative relationship.

Huge problem? What?

The perception managing media has been spoon feeding us drivel for months and months now about "heroic Kurds" Kurds as the only successful fighters, beating ISIS. Kurds being the polar opposite of ISIS.  Lots of nonsense like that. Of course, readers here know I have a different thoughts on KurdIShIS. But for now we'll focus on media presented spin and the necessary damage control

Headline: How Turkey’s Fight Against ISIS Advances Its War Against the Kurds 

What?! Turkey's fight against ISIS should aid the Kurds in every way shape and form.
ISIS, according to the media, being absolutely opposite of the Kurds.  The Kurds being those that, we are told, fight tooth and nail against ISIS? 

So, the question is very clearly: How then could Turkey's fight against ISIS advance war against the Kurds?

The obvious answer is:  Turkey's fight against ISIS can only advance the war against the Kurds if the Kurds and ISIS are one and the same! Or as I have called them for so long now KurdIShIS.

Let's move on to the very necessary damage control

WSJ, again: Working hard to cover up the very blatant connection. The connection that was made all the more clear when Kurdish persons undertook 2 suicide bombings in Turkey. And when Turkey's bombing of  ISIS in Syria, which is being confirmed and applauded all over the place, was reported as somehow affecting Kurds? Perhaps the Kurds & ISIS are standing right next to one another?

Headline: ISIS Woos Kurdish Attackers In Turkey

That headline acknowledges ISIS/Kurdish cooperation in terror, but, plays up the 'poor me' spin. Also known as playing the Victim Card: Victim playing (also known as playing the victim or self-victimization) is the fabrication of victimhood for a variety of reasons such as to justify abuse of others, to manipulate others, a coping strategy or attention seeking.
Israel always plays the victim card
 Orhan Gonder was a quiet, studious Kurdish teenager who went out of his way to help people, according to those who knew him in this small Turkish city near the Syrian border.

So when he started frequenting a tea house known as an Islamic State recruiting center last year, his parents went to the police and implored them to detain their son before he could do any harm. On June 5, the 20-year old set off a bomb at a Kurdish political rally in the nearby city of Diyarbakir, killing four people and injuring dozens, officials said.
Was he a 'studious' Kurdish teen? I don't know?
 And two weeks ago, another young Kurd from Adiyaman blew himself up in the middle of a rally of student activists, killing 31 people preparing to go help rebuild Kobani, the Syrian-Kurdish town that overcame a long Islamic State assault in January.

The two attacks exposed a troubling phenomenon: Islamic State appears to be successfully wooing young Turkish Kurds, while their kinsmen in Iraq and Syria—for the most part—are taking up arms against Islamic State. Kurdish militants in Syria, backed by U.S.-led airstrikes, have become the single most effective fighting force on the ground against the extremist group.
"The two attacks exposed a troubling phenomenon" But not the one Wall Street Journal wants you to think about. It exposes the same one I've talked about for far too long now! KurdIShIS!
Understanding the damage control? It's being poured on thick and fast!

Some Kurds have been seduced by the allure of the Islamic State’s vision of carving out a caliphate and imposing its fearsome interpretation of Islam.

On the face of it, Adiyaman seems like a challenging recruiting ground for Islamic State. This city of 250,000 has never embraced Kurdish nationalism the way much of southeastern Turkey have. But high unemployment combined with a dominant conservative Islamic culture have created a climate for Islamic State to step in and attract recruits with decent salaries and young wives.
You are supposed to believe that these are 'persons disloyal' to the Kurdish cause. You and I cannot verify that spin in any way shape or form. This is a narrative being spun after the fact to explain away Kurdish involvement with ISIS.

Read the rest for yourself at ISIS Woos Kurdish Fighters WSJ link

Flashback to an older post- some may have read it and some didn't. If you haven't, now might be a good time
Written and posted prior to the Kurdish perpetrated bombings in Turkey. Varying articles and a video included.

Also relinking:  Turkey: ISIS/Kurds & the Good Vs Evil Narrative
  Every time you allow yourself to be taken in by a presented, simplistic, good vs evil narrative you will be made more foolish for it


  1. Penny,

    I recommend you read the articles by Thierry Meyssan on the ISIS/Kurdish/Syrian situation. He spends a fair bit of time in Damascus, and has been an advisor to the Syrian government, or so they say. There are many Kurdish groups and, really, the other interests in the anti-Syrian coalition have had quite different goals. And Turkey may get damaged badly.

    One can also listen to an interview with him on Webster Tarpley's latest show.


    1. Paul:

      There aren't that many Kurdish groups or at least not anymore
      PKK and YPG are terrorizing or killing kurds into compliance

      Turkey may get damaged badly?
      Well haven't I been saying that since last year?

    2. But that's not really the topic at hand. The topic at hand is the collusion between, the cooperation between the Kurds and ISIS- And the media trying to distract from it?
      What have you to say about that?

  2. btw: Paul left the one voltaire link last week and pretty much when I saw this bit of nonsense from Meyssan I discounted him as a reliable source- meaning everything put out by him must be questioned

    "NATO doesn’t want to play any more- Since M. Erdoğan’s personal links with al-Qaïda have been proven by the Turish justice system, there is no longer any doubt that he personally commands Daesh"

    Meyssan who Paul referenced in an "appeal to authority" fashion is clearly promoting a false narrative- Erdogan no more commands Daesh/ISIS then Al Baghadadi does

    ISIS is a NATO/ Iraq/Kurdish fighting machine. And NATO definitely wants to play!

    NATO is in fact setting up the scenario as I type

    I've written extensively on this topic and do not take Meyssans word, despite Paul's appeal to Meyssans illusory authority

    To quote my good pal AP "I run my own dam think tank"

    My regret was not catching the Kurdish involvement until a short time later

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    1. I wondered about that- shades of Iraq?
      thanks for the link- I had hoped to address that situation and a bit more

  5. Penny,

    I don't consider Meyssan the answer, though I certainly don't consider the WSJ to be remotely reliable, either. To me, he has become a bit questionable starting, oh, a year ago or so. However, even if he has become disinfo or spin for some group, that would still mean that a high percentage of his info is likely to be true, as that is the nature of most disinfo. Perhaps where you and I disagree is on the AKP and Erdoghan - I think he is up to his eyeballs in Daesh and a key figure in the war on Libya and Syria from that network. Kind of the Muslim world's version of Netanyahu. The guy stated as the leader of that group seems to be a figurehead, but whether Erdoghan is the leader is rather questionable. It is likely some leader in the West. Didn't the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood live in Switzerland for some time?

    As for your questions, of course you have been referring to the possible destruction of Turkey for some time. That is the point of many of your articles. And I am not defending the ugly nature of the various Kurdish groups. They are brutal, though attacks inside Turkey may be false flags at this point as Erdoghan really needs an internal enemy to try to stay alive politically. This is the charge of various political leaders inside Turkey, but they are not exactly neutral. I don't have your confidence that ISIS and the Kurds are so simply owned and controlled by the same forces. As has been discussed, the Kurds are a bunch of different groups, with very different political cultures and even languages. ISIS seems to have a fair bit of Hussein's army officer corps in it, and perhaps is about to move to Central Asia or the Caucasus to hurt Russia. Many argue that ISIS is a marketing name/brand put on a bunch of local groups that are tactically involved in certain operations, and that they could vanish as quickly as they arose. Hard to say.

    Perhaps another place where we might disagree is on the nature of those involved in attacking Syria and now Turkey. I think Meyssan is correct that they have all had significantly different motivations or desired outcomes, and that this has caused them to largely fail in the case of Syria, at least so far. And one weakness of most English-language conspiracy articles is that they have ignored the vital role played by France in this. Their networks, Zionist domination (more than the US), and desire to return to the imperial game are quite relevant, at least in my opinion.

    But these are just my opinions, and could be wrong. It isn't some appeal to an authority, something Meyssan hasn't got. If I mentioned something about him, it is just so that the name might have some meaning. He wrote one of the first books on 9/11 from a skeptical point of view. Is he working for somebody? Entirely possible. So caveat lector, but that applies to all material about Syria or Turkey.


    1. "So caveat lector, but that applies to all material about Syria or Turkey"

      Absolutely agree