Friday, September 18, 2015

Assad Interview- ISIS/Western Propaganda/Kurds and John Kerry- Egad!


 In a rare interview with Russian media, including RT, Syrian President Bashar Assad opened up about terrorism, the refugee crisis, and Western propaganda. He went back in history, saying the US invasion of Iraq had set the scene for Syria's unrest.

On the cause of the Syrian civil war:

Assad: “It was the Iraq war in 2003, when the United States invaded Iraq. We were strongly opposed to that invasion, because we knew that things were moving in the direction of dividing societies and creating unrest. And we are Iraq’s neighbors. At that time, we saw that the war would turn Iraq into a sectarian country; into a society divided against itself. To the west of Syria there is another sectarian country - Lebanon. We are in the middle. We knew well that we would be affected. Consequently, the beginning of the Syrian crisis, or what happened in the beginning, was the natural result of that war and the sectarian situation in Iraq, part of which moved to Syria, and it was easy for them to incite some Syrian groups on sectarian grounds.”
When the US invaded Iraq in 2003,  Turkey had a huge problem with that move also. They went to NATO at the time- As they have recently and NATO didn't care. Same now as then.

Persons who put forth the idea that ISIS came out of Syria are sorely mistaken. ISIS came out of Iraq, rising like a phoenix from the ashes of the US/NATO/Israeli invasion. Just as Assad proposes

ISIS: The introductory flashbacks! 

If you didn’t read these when I dug the dirt and posted them here better then a year ago, you may be interested in doing so now?  Definitely a piece of the puzzle, in my opinion.
The West aka NATO/Israel adopting Terrorism: The 80's Afghanistan, cited by Assad.

I'm certain terrorism preceded Afghanistan, an example being the zionist use of it in order to bring about Israel, but Afghanistan is a good starting point for this present day narrative

 Assad: “All these things together created the conditions for the unrest with Western support and Gulf money, particularly from Qatar and Saudi Arabia, and with Turkish logistic support, particularly since President Erdogan belongs intellectually to the Muslim Brotherhood. Consequently, he believes that, if the situation changed in Syria, Egypt, and Iraq, it means the creation of a new sultanate; not an Ottoman sultanate this time, but a sultanate for the Brotherhood extending from the Atlantic to the Mediterranean and ruled by Erdogan."
You will notice that Assad specifically stated Turkish logistic support
Let's define logistics! 
Logistics: Logistics is the management of the flow of things between the point of origin and the point of consumption in order to meet the requirements of whom ever.
And what entity would provide logistics in the case of Turkey?
Why of course, that would be NATO. Since Turkey's military and NATO are integrated.
So, if Turkey was the conduit, did it's political leadership really have a choice or say in the matter?   Recently, Turkey did move to buy arms that were not integrated into the global NATO tyranny!  Gee, I wonder why? Not! I know why. It was because the Turkish leadership saw 'the writing on the wall"

 Introductory Turkish Destabilization Flashback!
Back to Assad's interview:
Assad- “All these factors together brought things to what we have today. Once again, I say that there were mistakes, and mistakes always create gaps and weak points, but they are not sufficient to cause that alone, and they do not justify what happened. And if these gaps and weak points are the cause, why didn’t they lead to revolutions in the Gulf States - particularly in Saudi Arabia which doesn’t know anything about democracy? The answer is self-evident, I believe.”
On ISIS and terrorism

Assad said that Syria is “at war” with terrorism which is supported by foreign powers, and that political forces should unite around what Syrians want – which is security and safety for everyone.
Assad: “That means we should first unite against terrorism. That is logical and self-evident,” Assad said.

“There are forces fighting terrorism now alongside the Syrian state, which had previously fought against the Syrian state. We have made progress in this regard, but I would like to take this opportunity to call on all forces to unite against terrorism, because it is the way to achieve the political objectives which we, as Syrians, want through dialogue and political action.”

When asked about making the border area with Turkey an area free of Islamic State, Assad said that notion implies that terrorism is allowed in other regions. “That is unacceptable,” he said.

“Terrorism should be eradicated everywhere; and we have been calling for three decades for an international coalition to fight terrorism.”

On the refugee crisis:

Referring to the refugee crisis currently underway in Europe, the Syrian president said the West is “crying for the refugees with one eye and aiming at them with a machinegun with the second one.”

Elaborating on that statement, Assad added: "If you are worried about [refugees], stop supporting terrorists. That's what we think regarding the crisis. This is the core of the whole issue of refugees.”

He added that Western propaganda is reporting that the refugees are fleeing the Syrian government – which media outlets call a “regime” – even though they are actually fleeing terrorists.

That “propaganda” will only lead to more refugees for the West, the Syrian president said.

...Now [the West says] there is terrorism like Al-Nusra and ISIS, but because of the Syrian state or the Syrian regime or the Syrian president. So, as long as they follow this propaganda, they will have more refugees.”
On Western propaganda blaming Assad for the civil war

Assad accused Western propaganda of oversimplifying the Syrian crisis and reporting that “the whole problem in Syria lies in one individual.” He added the consequence of that rhetoric is for people to say “let that individual go and things will be alright.”

He also said the West will continue to support terrorism as long as he is in power “because the Western principle followed now in Syria and Russia and other countries is changing presidents, changing states, or what they call bringing regimes down. Why? Because they do not accept partners and do not accept independent states.”

He said that in Syria, the president comes into power through the people and through elections – and if he goes, he goes through the people. He stressed that a leader doesn't go “as a result of an American decision, a Security Council decision, the Geneva conference, or the Geneva communiqué.”

“If the people want [a leader] to stay, he should stay; and if the people reject him, he should leave immediately. This is the principle according to which I look at this issue.”

On a political solution to the Syrian crisis

Assad said that Damascus needs to continue dialogue between “Syrian entities” and “political entities or political currents,” while simultaneously fighting terrorism, in order to reach a consensus about the country's future.

“We have to continue dialogue in order to reach consensus as I said, but if you want to implement anything real, it’s impossible to do anything while you have people being killed, bloodletting hasn’t stopped, people feel insecure. Let’s say we sit together as Syrian political parties or powers and achieve a consensus regarding something in politics, in economy, in education, in health, in everything. How can we implement it if the priority of every single Syrian citizen is to be secure? So, we can achieve consensus, but we cannot implement unless we defeat the terrorism in Syria. We have to defeat terrorism, not only ISIS.”

On cooperation with Russia & Iran

The Syrian president said Damascus would be prepared to cooperate with “friendly countries” in its fight against terrorism, particularly Russia and Iran.

Calling the relationship between Syria and Iran an “old one,” Assad said the alliance is “based on a great deal of trust.”

“Iran supports Syria and the Syrian people. It stands with the Syrian state politically, economically and militarily,” he said, adding that Iranian support has been essential for Syria during “this difficult and ferocious war.”

However, he laid to rest claims by Western media that Tehran has sent an army or armed forces to Syria.

“That is not true. It sends us military equipment, and of course there is an exchange of military experts between Syria and Iran. This has always been the case, and it is natural for this cooperation to grow between the two countries in a state of war,” Assad said.

As for Russia, Assad said “there is a good, strong and historical relation between Moscow and Damascus.”
But Assad also said that Syria has “no veto” on any country, “provided that it has the will to fight terrorism and not as they are doing in what is called the 'international coalition' led by the United States."

“Countries like Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Western countries which provide cover for terrorism like France, the United States, or others, cannot fight terrorism. You cannot be with and against terrorism at the same time. But if these countries decide to change their policies and realize that terrorism is like a scorpion, if you put it in your pocket, it will sting you. If that happens, we have no objection to cooperating with all these countries, provided it is a real and not a fake coalition to fight terrorism.”
Clearly Assad continues to see the writing on the wall! Cause it's obvious to me Turkey is being targeted and soon enough Saudi Arabia will be deeper in the throes of a destabilization that has begun with those mosque bombings.

On Assad's position towards Kurds

When asked if he has a specific position towards the Kurds, the Syrian president said they are “part of the Syrian fabric.”

“They are not foreigners - they live in this region like the Arabs, Circassians, Armenians and many other ethnicities and sects who’ve been living in Syria for many centuries...without these groups, there wouldn’t have been a homogenous Syria..."

“...But on the other hand, you cannot put all the Kurds in one category. Like any other Syrian component, there are different currents among them. They belong to different parties. There are those on the left and those on the right. There are tribes, and there are different groups. So, it is not objective to talk about the Kurds as one mass,” he stated.

However, he stressed the Kurds “are not allies at this stage, as some suggest."

“There are many fallen Kurdish soldiers who fought with the army, which means they are an integral part of society. But there are parties which had certain demands, and we addressed some at the beginning of the crisis. There are other demands which have nothing to do with the state, and which the state cannot address. There are things which would relate to the entire population, to the constitution, and the people should endorse these demands before a decision can be taken by the state. In any case, anything proposed should be in the national framework. That’s why I say that we are with the Kurds, and with other components, all of us in alliance to fight terrorism.”

He added that once the terrorists are defeated in Syria, Kurdish demands “expressed by certain parties” can be discussed nationally.
Some of what Assad said wrt the Kurds is contained in yesterday's post:
Syria & the Kurds: Exodus alters demographics/Assad: No deal with Kurds

The situation with the Kurds in Syria & their involvement with the destruction of Syria, covered by myself, earned me a lot of hostility. Oh well, I call them as I see them.

The Kurdish militias were no friend of Syria. The Kurdish militias were no friend to the Kurdish people. However you define them? And that's difficult because there is nothing cohesive about them! I've said that here and made a clear case for that fact and it earned me attacks which fill my spam box and get deleted by me. But then, there is collusion between the Kurds and Israel. Both groups aligned and both having a big lobby which no doubt includes a troll brigade.

There are about 100 posts here covering the Kurdish aspect of this destabilization. Collusion with Israel. Kurdish militias participating in ethnic cleansing. Kurdish militias harming ordinary Kurds.  Etc.,  Please don't bring the nonsensical Kurdish do gooder narrative here- I'm not buying lies and fanciful tales

John Kerry- Egads!

U.S. President Barack Obama believes that military talks with Russia on Syria is an important next step and hopes they will take place very shortly, Secretary of State John Kerry said on Friday.
"The president believes that mil-to-mil conversation is an important next step and hopefully will take place very shortly and help to define some of the different options available to us as we consider next steps in Syria," Kerry said at the start of talks with United Arab Emirates Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed in London. 
"Our focus remains on destroying ISIL (Islamic State militants) and also on a political settlement with respect to Syria, which we believe cannot be achieved with the long-term presence of (President Bashar al-) Assad," Kerry told reporters. "We’re looking for ways in which to find a common ground."
Kerry's focus is not on destroying ISIS and it never has been! This has always been about outing Assad and destroying Syria. Expanding Israel. Creating the refugee crisis was a good way to punish Europe- destroying societies and driving down wages to create that horrid global gulag I have mentioned on other occasions.
I've asked everyone here before to stop participating in that which is destroying us all- The hour is late my friends. Any agenda being pushed, don't go along with it. 


  1. Yup it's long! It' took me almost an hour and a half to put together. If I can give my time freely, you can do the same- Change don't come easy

  2. General Dallaire is not to be trusted
    He fabricated a narrative concerning Rwanda-
    Don't take him at face value at all!

  3. regarding dallaire and his 'truthiness'

    Knowing what I know about his version of reality it is not surprising to see NATO media dragging him out like some token do gooder

  4. Great post, Pen. Very well put together highlighting the important points and giving background and further resources. A really good overview.

  5. Excellent analysis. I only have one objection: it is not a "rare" interview. He has given many interviews. Only the MSM keeps calling the interview "rare". I want to highlight your essay on SyrPer. Okay? Ziad

    1. Hi Ziad:

      That's how RT described it- so.. not to much I can do about it
      except tell other readers, as you have pointed out this is not a rare interview
      And yes, feel free to feature it- but, be ready to take some heat for it
      (I think you can take it or you would have long ago removed yourself from the stove) ;)

  6. Penny,
    Don't know if it fits in with info on Kurdish involvements ( which I agree there have been, good and bad )
    A little mention here by the latest black General they put in a hot spot.
    These guys keep falling for this con :)

    The Good General Austin and CENTCOM

    hope it fits in somewhere

  7. Thanks Penny long but Great

    Please don't let that Ziad fellow push you around;)

    1. Hey jo- thanks
      I know, ya gotta watch Ziad ;)
      I see he did share it and I'm glad he did

  8. Is this Penelope who comments on the Saker blog?

    1. No. I comment occasionally at Saker's , with the name Penny, same as here.

    2. That's odd. I am somewhat new to reading these blogs etc., and came across yours via Syria Perspective which I was pointed to by Penelope! So there is a convergence of some kind. At any rate, I enjoyed the article above and will follow the links.

    3. Hi D George.
      May just be a convergence of some kind. Perhaps everyone is just tired of all the lies? I see the commenter name Penelope at Saker's- don't have a clue to her views or anything- It pretty much takes all my free time to write this blog, myself so I don't get out much.

      Most of the links are to posts I have written previously. I'm a one woman show with my hubby as sounding board and advisor
      As in what do you think? How about this? What about this possibility?
      It helps me to flesh out thoughts- and of course if anyone wants to leave their opinion on a topic, that's good too!

  9. I am an old geezer who never really trusted the story line my elders and betters used to sell, and as I worked my way out of the newspaper business I believed it less and less. Now I see what an evil business the media does. It has always been bad, got worse with Bush Jr. in Iraq, even worse with Libya, then Syria, Ukraine, and now Yemen, too many last straws! I have plenty of opinions, naturally stimulated by what I read, and I will read your blog with interest.

    1. The media is definitely in an evil business- on so many levels
      Do read as much as you please here- I've blogged for a good while and am always learning as I go- in fact I consider this place a learning experience :)