Saturday, February 13, 2016

Pentagon Tells Kurds NO to Seizing New Territory- Turkey cease firing and more

As mentioned in yesterday’s post:

From Aleppo to Munich and Back- The Ceasefire that isn't

- Kerry told reporters the ceasefire would not apply to extremist groups including Isis and the al-Nusra Front.
I pointed out that the ceasefire would apply to the YPG. But they would ignore it.

“The ceasefire does apply to the Kurdish PKK militias backed by NATO. They will ignore it.”

And of course they did.

The text of the agreement is here
Relevant section as follows:
“ b) ensure effective communications among all parties to promote compliance and rapidly de-escalate tensions; c) resolve allegations of non-compliance; and d) refer persistent non-compliant behaviour by any of the parties to ISSG Ministers, or those designated by the Ministers, to determine appropriate action, including the exclusion of such parties from the arrangements for the cessation of hostilities and the protection it affords them”
If you read that text you understand that the YPG/PKK can continue non compliant behaviour and not have to participate in the ceasefire. Bad behaviour gets them a reward. As the US and company rearm them should we assume they  really don’t want YPG/PKK to take more territory? Or is that just a No, for now? For the time being? Until more arms are in place?

Bloomberg:

The U.S. Defense Department is urging Turkey and Kurdish forces in Syria to quit firing at each other as reports of fresh violence between the two parties threaten their efforts to counter Islamic State.

“We are concerned about the situation north of Aleppo and are working to de-escalate tensions on all sides,” the Pentagon said in a statement. “We have urged Syrian Kurdish forces affiliated with the YPG not to take advantage of a confused situation by seizing new territory. We have also seen reports of artillery fire from the Turkish side of the border and urged Turkey to cease such fires.”
Breaking that statement down to address the two issues separately
 “We have urged Syrian Kurdish forces affiliated with the YPG not to take advantage of a confused situation by seizing new territory”


 “We have also seen reports of artillery fire from the Turkish side of the border and urged Turkey to cease such fires.”
We have, in essence, Pentagon verification of moves by YPG/PKK to take new Syrian territory,  when they are supposed to be abiding by a ceasefire ? Pretty brazen!
We have Pentagon verification of artillery fire from the Turkish border, but, no verification or acknowledgement of movement from the Turkish side. Interesting.

 Prime Minister Davutoglu demanded that the YPG militia leave the border region immediately.

"Today retaliation was taken under the rules of engagement against forces that represented a threat in Azaz and the surrounding area," Davutoglu told reporters in televised comments.
Greek authorities say they have arrested two heavily armed suspects near the border with Turkey.
 Both Iraqi-born British subjects in their 20s.

The two were arrested Saturday night by coast guard officers near the port of the northeastern Greek city of Alexandroupolis. They were driving a trailer.

A coast guard spokesman also confirmed the arrests but would not provide further information.

The suspects were carrying more than a dozen guns and well over 20,000 bullets, the security official says. The two are not on any terrorist or criminal database.

Some other interesting tidbits:

With thanks to an anonymous commenter for bringing news of GRADS making their way to the NATO backed fighters;

It seems that some of the takfiris have got their hands on some Grad multiple rocket launcher systems. These can fire volleys of 16 - 24 missiles over long distances. Any guesses where they came from and where the takfiris were trined in how to use them? /sarc

The takfiris will use these against civilian targets and the historic parts of Aleppo. Russia will be blamed for it.

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://rusvesna.su/news/1455317809&usg=ALkJrhhJaKian5WmCYAU45poE2u5oeyNLg


 Same info from Reuters

Back again!

Found an English story for the Grads

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-missiles-idUSKCN0VL278

Bashar al-Assad's foreign enemies have sent rebels new supplies of ground-to-ground missiles to confront a Russian-backed offensive by the government near Aleppo.

The missiles with a range of 20 km (12 miles) had been provided in "excellent quantities"

"It is excellent additional fire power for us," said one of the commanders, who declined to be identified due to the sensitivity of the matter. The second rebel commander said the missiles were being used to hit army positions beyond the front line. "They give the factions longer reach," he said.

"Assad's enemies have been supplying vetted rebel groups with weapons via a Turkey-based operations center. Some of the vetted groups have received military training overseen by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency"

Notice the wording? "Via a Turkey based operation center". Not a Turkish operation center. Then "overseen by the US CIA" This tells us who is running the center. The CIA is running the center based in Turkey.
Raqqa:

It looks as if Ashton Carter is also shoring up IS at Raqqa

We know from my previous post that the US has already sent special ops into north eastern syria- to support IS because Syrian Army was moving in on that area

Carter's support:

http://timesofoman.com/article/77339/World/Middle-East/Defence-Secretary-Ash-Carter-says-US-expects-Saudi-Arabia-and-UAE-to-send-commandos-to-Syria

"We're going to try to give opportunities and power to... particularly Arabs in Syria who want to re-seize their territory back from IS, especially Raqqa,"

Now to the SAA news about Raqqa:

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-enters-al-raqqa-governorate/

"For the first time since August of 2014, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has reentered the Al-Raqqa Governorate in northern Syria after a successful past few days of fighting against the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) along the Salamiyah-Raqqa Road that flows through much of east Hama

25 comments:

  1. Hi Pen,
    Ash Carter - "We're going to try to give opportunities and power to... particularly Arabs in Syria who want to re-seize their territory back from IS, especially Raqqa,"

    I'm not sure that Raqqu was ever Kurdish and besides if Carter is admitting what has been happening and what you have been saying i.e. that IS clears territory to hand it over (by plan) to the Kurds then we can assume that something else is being added to the plan. Perhaps US troops are going in to control it and make their occupation a fait accompli before the SAA get there.

    I have thought that the US would do that ever since the Turks started looking serious about invading the Allepo province. They would only do that with US insistance and the US will use them as a decoy (and sacrifice) while the US occupies eastern Syria.

    Oil and gas pipelines are behind this as well as the survival or the US dollar which relies on oil sales being denominated in $US

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    1. Hi James
      Yes, a mini Sunni State is also on the agenda.
      Recall early on Syria was to be divided into 3 states
      The kurdish statelet was obfuscated by some other name
      then there was a sunni state
      then an alawite state
      It's the sunni state they are working on presently- the same plan is in the works for Iraq
      It's not nor has it ever been Erdogan after a Sunnistan, that was just more transference, it seems this is the next plan for NATO

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  2. Penny:
    Grey wolves CIA Operation Gladio

    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/12/16/on-the-trail-of-turkeys-terrorist-grey-wolves-2/

    From the comments:
    The Gülen movement had been among Erdoğan’s most enthusiastic supporters. Erdoğan’s rift with CIA developed over his disruption of Gülen’s Turkish networks.

    Sounds like the CIA doesn't like erdogan

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    1. Yes the Grey Wolves! I'm familiar with them.
      Realizing you're newer to my blog you may want to take a gander at this post and all external links

      NATO Stay Behind Armies: Gladio and Grey Wolves. Updated


      Links to two books, articles and the grey wolves were connected to the plot to kill the pope
      It does sound as if the CIA does not like Erdogan on little bit... I will agree there!

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  3. Penny,

    I believe Erdogan is currently being blackmailed by NATO controlled turkish ultranationalists within his party. Just browsing the grey wolves wikipedia articles, shows numerous NATO and Turkish intelligence connections with the organization. The link I posted in your latest article shows that US Intel has problems with Erdogan. This is another link showing how much Erdogan fears the wolves:
    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/02/erdogan-mhp-election-gray-wolf-turkey.html. Another link: Erdogan can't apologize, because the Nationalists will crucify him: https://www.rt.com/news/332338-erdogan-russian-pranksters-call/

    Here is a link “linking” the wolves to Ukraine: http://sputniknews.com/analysis/20151210/1031518376/grey-wolves-threat-to-crimea.html

    I find NATO trying to “control” the “narrative” of the war in syria, by arming both the PKK and ISIS grey wolves. I believe that NATO has accepted that their empire is in decline, with China and large Asian countries deciding to move from the dollar, and has decided to initiate operation gladio programs, utilizing themes of Islamofacism and Neonazism (The two themes feed upon one another) in Ukraine, Turkey, Poland, Indonesia, Japan, Philippines, Malaysia, and Afghanistan. The original Operation Gladio programs were designed to fight the Soviet Union in case the SU invaded, it is now used to blackmail US “allies” or neutral states into a fight against Eurasia.

    What is nice about this blog is that it is one of the few that doesn't fall for the narrative that the partition of Turkey because of Kurdish “genocide” is a good thing, such as your mention of Whitney of Counterpunch, and the crazy, maybe dis info agent Ben fulford.

    I think the most amusing thing is the recent news that Saudi Arabia is sending airplanes to Turkey. I believe that this may sabotage NATO plans. I think, while Saudi Arabia has been long associated with CIA operations, particularly their funding, they always assumed that if the operations failed, the US would intervene with overwhelming military force. The Iran deal and the 2013 syria confrontation, probably pissed them off, and I think both Erdogan and SA are feeling betrayed. The most important thing that NATO cares about is controlling the “narrative”, and controlling the escalation in “escalation dominance.” NATO does NOT, want a uncontrollable regional war, that may cause damage or threat to Mecca, Medina, Jersualem, and the Holy lands, or worse a Nuclear war. NATO is now compelled into playing nuclear hopscotch with other countries red lines.

    What I'm predicting: I think the Kurds, are going to get crushed by Erdogan, especially in Iraq, where there is no Russian presence. I think Erdogan may also attack US special operation forces, knowing that US will never escalate to war with Turkey. The destruction of Kurds will, while making Erdogan look bad in the int. community, will prevent his biggest domestic threat from gaining power, the ultranationalists. On Europe, I predict that since it is unlikely NATO will unlikely intervene in Libya again: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/egyptian-foreign-minister-libya-intervention-should-wait/2016/02/08/50864bd0-ceb6-11e5-b2bc-988409ee911b_story.html.

    So, what is next for millions of refugees? I think its gonna be like last time: death (NATO training) camps in Poland/Ukraine. Why did poland raid a nato counterintel center in the middle of the night? Don't Poles trust and love NATO?: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/18/polish-military-police-raid-nato-centre-warsaw. Alexander Temerko, associated with Yukos and Khodorkovsky (Anti-putin US intel connected) http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2015/11/06/light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel-resettle-syrian-refugees-in-ukraine/. This neo nazi islamofacist army is so hilarious, you wouldn't be able to write a believable fiction book.

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  4. I do not agree with all of the dire predictions of the imminent decline of the dollar. The Wall Street, City of London organized crime syndicate are still controlling two extrely important facets of global finance. The first is the central banks of the vast majority of nations and secondly they control the creation of money in the same nations. Can anyone name nations which are monetarily sovrreign? Nations that create money by spending directly into their respective economies which serves their own national interests, rather than being trapped into the money through debt issuance criminal cycle. Russia's central bank is controlled by the cabal. China, though the illusion of banking independence is part of the narrative, are tied, because they are completely dependent on trade by exporting their production. Their own national consumption being unable to support their economy. Which completely ties them to the world wide financial criminals.
    As for the Sultan attacking US special forces, your going a bit overboard. Should it occur Erdogan will be found with a bullet in the head. Who does he take his orders from? Do you believe he acts independently?

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    1. Hello,

      The strength of the dollar is highly dependent on other countries particularly asian countries (i.e China and Japan) and Saudi Arabia, buying US treasuries. These three countries hold majority of US treasuries, and due to many factors are simply unable to continue to buy more. China's industry is slowing down, they have a lot of “Ghost Cities,” China is aging and full unemployment is no longer a priority, China can buy oil with Yuan with Russia and potentially Iran. Japan's Yen is strengthening due to demographics (something shinzo abe can't fix), no longer need to export as much, but needs to import more now,which needs currency strength. Saudi Arabia exports two things, Oil and Wahabbism. Saudi Arabia needs currency to fund Wahabbism, so its like one big socialist enterprise, like China's Ghost cities, except it doesn't fuel domestic growth and add to GDP numbers. Since Oil prices are going down: everyone makes oil now: Canada, Venezuela, Argentina, Brazil, Russia, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Nigeria, USA, South Sudan, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Norway, Saudi Arabia, and the margins are very low.

      Oil may likely go under 10 dollars a barrel, these are pre WW2 levels, hell the barrel may eventually become 1/3 of the total cost. What do you think is going to happen to these countries who are dependent on high oil prices, so their citizens can buy necessities?
      These countries are gonna have hyperinflation. Venezuela and Argentina are already in hyperinflation.
      We are going to see more mass riots and economic problems. Saudi Arabia is desperately trying to gain market share with China, the worlds biggest buyer of oil, but China Is buying more oil from russia: https://www.rt.com/business/331139-russia-china-saudi-arabia-oil/. Why? Because they are buying with Yuan. It is so bad now, Saudi Arabia wants to sell Saudi Aramco, their oil business: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-15/in-saudi-aramco-ipo-talk-some-see-age-of-oil-coming-to-an-end. Take a look at Exxon Mobil, and BP stock price chart, or better yet marathon, and chespeake oil (natural gas and shale oil), would you want to invest in something dropping so fast. Alot of banks hold these stocks and debt as collateral, worse still a lot of pension funds hold these stocks as AAA rated debt, what do you think is gonna happen when in several years oil might still be cheap? Alot of folks are not gonna retire-> more unemployment.

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    2. When you look at the major freely traded currency charts: Euro and Yen and the Dollar, over decades you see the Yen clearly strengthening at least from 1989, their stock crash year. The Euro is more difficult but it is currently worth approx 1.12 to the dollar, and has been strengthening recently. Iran has recently chosen to buy oil with euros: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/majid-rafizadeh/iran-plays-and-backstabs_b_9229384.html. Usually America would just invade now, but the reality is, US can no longer afford politically, militarilly, and socially to invade a country of near 80 million, near 3x the population of Iraq, ethnically homogenous, has the terrain of Afghanistan, very powerful allies, and armed with a lot of ballistic and cruise missiles, which are very cost effective and deadly against warships. America maintains its Dollar hegemony with the threat and credibility of violence, these means are no longer credible particularly to nuclear powers, and even non nuclear powers like Iran.

      I dont fully trust the source that Turkey killed some special operation forces. However, people who think that America wouldn't abandon its special forces troops should look at: 1. Veterans Affairs health care: (Militarycorruption.com has a lot of good information on how it works Delay and Deny until they die is a recent headline). 2. Black hawk down, troop bodies dragged through the streets 3. Benghazi-US Cia abandoned including US ambassador. 4. US special forces “forgotten” “betrayed” operating in Laos and Cambodia Pheonix Program (https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol51no2/a-retrospective-on-counterinsurgency-operations.html). Kissinger is allegedly to have said: “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
      When you look at the “Official story” of the helicopter “crash:” http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2016/01/22/marines-helicopters-crashed-hawaii/79178722/.

      The Us military cannot find 12 bodies of marines, in 2 helicopters apparently 2 and a half miles from Oahu. These are not small helicopters, CH-53E are huge and can carry 30 thousand pounds internal payload, Yet they are carrying six men each on “training exercise,” US government is apparently spending a lot of money on helicopters training 6 men on each helicopter. I went a public university with 200 people classes, but the military can spend 20k per flight hour near the cost of a f16 flight /hour (CH53K is apparently less than half the cost of the 53E, but the plane that crashed were 53E http://www.defensetech.org/2010/04/29/whats-strangling-the-ch-53k/), on 6 marines each? Is this a liberal arts college? I thought the marines were the most underfunded military branch. Also 2 and a half miles from Oahu, the island with the Hawaiian capital, and a popular tourist destination site, should have a lot of drunk tourists who probably drown all the time, drowning is actually a common way to be injured or die, so they should have a lot of bay watch pamela anderson types, yet the most “powerful” military in the world cant find 12 bodies and 2 huge helicopters near a popular beach resort? What do you think is more likely, the official story? Or that 2 helicopters carrying US special forces+ weapons, supplies, and maybe kurdish “special forces,” were hit by the Turks and covered up?.

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    3. Saudi Arabia has been in the midst of a destabalaztion campaign in slow roll for years. A close examination of the facts would seem to justify Iran warning that the Yemen operation was a trap. Draw a line from Yemen to western Saudi Arabia directly to jubeir and the Def minister. As penny pointed out Saudi shares many similarities with okinawa. From the aramco hack to the sochi rumors, the sub incident (sweden) and the contractor kills plus plane spotters juxtaposed against the media human riots camapaign says what? Question is whether the call to action in Saudi will be adjudicated between the warring factions or whether it will be adjudicated from the outside.

      Surely you didn't miss the Chinese dissident artist portait of the child on the beach washed ashore from the refugee flux. Or as lavrov warned weaponized people flows.If you looking at Syria a a battle ground you looking down not up. Us just rejected the space weapons ban again. Go back to the summer and look at the Russians maneuvering a satellite in orbit. Caught some attention. As has the xb mission. Has any country responded to the Chinese offer to land a probe on the dark side?.........open call no one showed up.

      The grey wolf nexus to the thailand bombing preceding the isis threat to take out Russian targets as yingluck faces the "junta" should trace out some lineage.

      Iraq and turkey are where the action is at. Sputnik just ran an article on the three layers of Russian air defenses at the airbase. Why hasn't anyone asked why the Patriots were pulled out weeks before the Russian shootdown? Now the urgency to deploy awacs and patriot batteries?

      Rand report on mosul dam? As Iraq eg baghdad no doubt supplied by the fusion center is massing it's army to take ground?

      And if anyone is being blackmailed it isn't erdogan. He was hung out to dry years ago. It is somewhere on this blog characterized as caught between a rock and nato. The setup is in Egypt and india like the latest goad on scs patrol with the US on the later.

      Us can better manuever in Iraq and can not afford to let the pm - where a parliamentary coup against him just seemingly failed - like waiting out maliki - drive on mosul given carter comments about ground pounding asap only to have the spokesman say mosul would be a long bloody fight. Between who is the question?

      As for the yen it is strengthening not because of demographics but becasue the carry is deflating into nirp. As for Saudi treasuries who cares when the fed is buying billions on the roll with the threat of fresh print a day away. Walking the confidence knife edge with the pboc embracing bitcoin on illicit flows? The boj move weeks ago may have been the proverbial nail. The crash up is not cooperating with the central bank invincibility. Every dog has its day.

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    4. Hello,

      Saudi Arabia destablization by intervening in Yemen is a trap, but the question is it a engineered one. Was it engineered by US intelligence or Iranian Intelligence? Or are Yemenis just prone to shoot each other in a high unstable region like Afghanistan? First case, did US supply weapons to Houthis and Yemenis to kill each other, judging by their weapons types, and their tribal backgrounds, I dont think the Us nor Iran needed to supply them with weapons, as they already are the 2nd most heavily armed country on earth per per capita with 54.5 guns per 100 people only the US beats them with 88 guns per 100. Successful insurgencies are historically linked with land based supply route. Ship and air resupply is very obvious and prone to interdiction. Yemen's conflict zone also borders a strategic strait Bal-al mandab strait, I know baltic dry is doing very bad, but supplying a insugency using naval means at a strategic strait, right next to Dijbouti, a naval base with multiple navies including Chinas, is pretty obvious.
      There are reports of Iran supplying the Houthis (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/04/20/iran-support-for-yemen-houthis-goes-back-years/26095101/). But I don't think that it was really necessary, as Gulf state navies are patrolling the area, seizing ships. There are diminishing returns to arming the Houthis, they already have 1 gun per 2 people, and they are seizing saudi foreign arms, do they really need 1 gun for every person, even “Murica” doesn't have that. There are also many news reports stating that Iran does not have that big of a connection with the Houthis Reports saying Iran tried to stop the houthis, (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/iran-tried-to-stop-houthi-rebels-in-yemen_us_55c3ba1be4b0d9b743db627c), This report states that weapon shipments were ruses, like the Iraq WMDs. (http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34240-how-false-stories-of-iran-arming-the-houthis-were-used-to-justify-war-in-yemen).
      When I read Jubier's statements, I get the feeling that The Saudis are paranoid after the Iraq war shifted the balance of power to the Iranians (did the Iranians plan the iraq war too? After all ahmed chalabi iraq war architect was a prominent shia). Take a look at his wikipedia page was he genuine or a fraud? Was he working for Suleimani (Iranian spymaster?), is Suleimani a fucking genius? Or is America just stupid? Based on historical evidence, I think US leaders are kind of dumb.

      I find the hacks, sweden sub incident, and sochi rumors just part of cold war political psych ops between russia and the west, nothing too strategic. On Saudi factional frictions, I don't think they matter anymore. What are they going to do raise the oil price? Turn away from a oil based economy? Grow tomatoes? There is pretty much nothing they can do, except threaten and eventually go to war with Iran.

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    5. I don't think the chinese protrait of the dead child on the beach is of any importance, except for probably a psychop against europeans. The dead child picture may also be a “staged” photo, like many “tragedies” to make a political point. Lavrov weapons people, is in line with my general thesis: to create massive chaos and redirect refugees to ukraine to fight russians.

      Us rejecting space weapons, that is funny because US is most vulnerable to space weapons, now the North Koreans also have a space weapon. Russia maneuvering satellite, I think a lot of countries can do that. Probe dark side? Is that of the moon? Is there a high demand for countries to probe dark side of the moon? Sounds like a niche market.

      Grey wolves, thailand bombings are probably US sponsored false flag events, which probably wont matter strategically, Thailand has had multiple coups, and Miltary juntas, Yingluck doesn't really matter, military can put any attractive women or man for that matter as a puppet, China can deal with either one.

      Patriot missiles removal, probably foreshadowing lack of NATO support for Turkey for a war with Russia.

      Mosul dam report is INTERESTING, potential terror attack might drown a lot of people. Apparently it is also very poorly built, potential false flag event. Tigris River are likely dying in Iraq, and its collapse will kill them estimate half a million or better yet displace half a million. Might send more iraqis to Europe.

      Erdogan caught between a rock and nato is a good place to blackmail him. Egypt and India look like a good source of refugees, but Indians have difficulty traveling to europe, china or through pakistan. India is so poor, that people want to leave anyway, so a “accident” is unnecessary.

      Iraq: I dont think abadi has any real power. Look at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD18a0XRn-g. He looks 5 feet 4 inches, do you think he runs the country. Or do you think people like this guy runs the country (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NAvTEQ9eXQ). I think carter's comment about more ground forces in Iraq, shows how desperate US government is for supply routes, after Turkey taking control of border. Need to find sources of refugees and terrorists.

      Japan Yen: It is because of Demographics, NIRP, and QE policies have failed because japan 1. is densely populated 2. has high living costs 3. socially anti immigrant 4. most neighbors hate them and have trade barriers against them ( why doesnt china buy japanese cars?). 5. Foreign policy and energy sources are controlled by US. 6. Auto market controlled and dependent on US. 7. Declining Domestic demand. 8. aging US population and highly competitive US market (german, us, korean cars) means declining difficult market share 9. High capital costs for sustaining automobile industry, highly dependent on marketshare to become profitable (GM).

      US is raising interest rates. Treasuries rates are declining because of massive monetary outflow from developing commidity countries, as growth slows down. Fed can print all they want, just like japan, but like japan cant get of a deflationary environment.

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    6. Avirgo,
      Please tell me something I am not fully aware of. Read and think first, rather than immediately coming back with criticism or information you believe negates an opinion. That is exactly what most commentary by non experts or those not privy to what teally goes on behind closed doors is, conjecture and opinion.
      I do not believe I mentioned the US directly. I did specifically mention Wall Street and the City of London. Both are supra-national, both are directed by the 0.01 percent who currently decide the fates of nations, citizens, multi-national corps. The alternative financial organizations being created by the those seeking to decouple from the petro dollar, Western controlled system are nowhere near the point achieving their goals. There's a very long tow to hoe. I hope they are successful. However, besides the developing alt institutions are these nations committed to ridding themselves of the Wester allied, Atlanticist elites who in most cases control the creation and supply of their currencies? Who controls the money, controls the nation. It's a fact you cannot simply wish away.

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    7. Hello,

      Like I said in a previous reply, Russia is already in the process of conducting oil purchases in Yuan, Iran is reportedly looking at Euros. A low oil price measured in dollars is a de facto destruction of the petrodollar. If find the idea that these central banks control anything especially in the brics to be amusing, judging by the failure of QE, NIRP, and low interest rates they can't do anything. Chinese central bank pegged the yuan to the dollar giving the idea that the bank is controlled was for reasons such as: maintaining low unemployment,industrializing and building national champions. Russian central bank was westernized because their were no real alternative school of thought other than western economists vs soviet economists ( who badly failed). Other banks such as Bank of Japan are dealing with very weak fundamentals, and are controlled by political interests (Shinzo Abe) and foreign influences ( auto sector, intelligence agencies). Finally, I read your entire comment, and thought alot about what to write, so the criticism about that I dont read and think first doesn't make sense to me. I admit I am NOT an "expert" nor do I have any backroom insider information, I can only speculate and conduct conjecture,but I don't believe that this blog's audience is for insiders.
      The blog states that "this is a place to not only post information that will never see the light of day on the mainstream media, but, also to present alternative perspectives to main stream media information, that most often presents no background, no context, and never questions the information presented." I don't see anywhere listed that this is supposed to be a expert insider audience, nor do I believe Penny to be an expert with insider opinion, so I just do what Penny does, read the news and parse the lines.

      Thanks,
      Avirgo

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    8. Propaganda knows no irony
      https://next.ft.com/content/7a9feb9a-d327-11e5-8887-98e7feb46f27

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  5. be back later- I need coffee- COFFEE lol
    helps me wake up :)

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  6. And, I apologize for my horrendous typing skills. It's either slimmer fingers or bigger keys.

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  7. Wow, good comments and it's going to take me forever to respond to them.I am less well versed in economics- perhaps better then average but far below what others may know..

    So I'm going to try to tackle as much as I can:

    Avirgo:

    “I believe Erdogan is currently being blackmailed by NATO controlled turkish ultranationalists within his party”

    Seems very plausible

    “I find NATO trying to “control” the “narrative” of the war in syria, by arming both the PKK and ISIS grey wolves”

    I would agree

    “ I believe that NATO has accepted that their empire is in decline......decided to initiate operation gladio programs, utilizing themes of Islamofacism and Neonazism”


    I lean towards NATO attempting to consolidate global markets- I don’t think Gladio ever went away- Forms of it have been used in South America under other labels. Islamofascism has been used for a long, long while.

    “What is nice about this blog is that it is one of the few that doesn't fall for the narrative that the partition of Turkey because of Kurdish “genocide” is a good thing”

    I don’t fall for that narrative because I have a better grasp of Kurdish history and their participation in genocides against others- I don’t see them as victims, rather as willing participants, masters of their own misfortune- in part due to bad leadership- same as most other people.

    Btw: In my opinion Fulford is disinfo. But so are many others. By disinfo I mean intentionally misleading, not simply making a mistake


    “ I think both Erdogan and SA are feeling betrayed”

    I agree. But perhaps not for the same reason as you? I think they feel betrayed because they are being betrayed - Both countries are being destabilized. Turkey is more apparent. Saudi Arabia less so, but, it’s still there.

    “ The most important thing that NATO cares about is controlling the “narrative”, and controlling the escalation in “escalation dominance.”

    I definitely agree with that!

    “ NATO is now compelled into playing nuclear hopscotch with other countries red lines”

    Perhaps? Not sure.

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  8. Avirgo:

    What I'm predicting: I think the Kurds, are going to get crushed by Erdogan"

    As of now I do not see the Kurds being crushed by Erdogan.

    Iraqi Kurds will come under the full control of the PKK- Barzani will be out of office this year and if the Gorran party takes over it's full PKK all the way

    Iran has already had attacks via the Kurds, these will increase

    The Grey Wolves and the Kurds will fight one another in Turkey for territory. Erdogan may be outed in a coup at some point in time. It's possible.

    “I think Erdogan may also attack US special operation forces, knowing that US will never escalate to war with Turkey”

    I don’t see that at all. Turkey’s military is too intertwined with NATO. And has been for far too long.

    Erdogan doesn’t need to destroy the Kurds, there only need be a perception of that happening to ruin Erdogan- That is occurring present day

    As for the refugees? What can be said with certainty is they will be used to wage war against Russia- and destroy cohesive societies- Anything else I don't know?

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  9. AnonymousFebruary 14, 2016 at 11:33 AM

    Saudi Arabia has been in the midst of a destabalaztion campaign in slow roll for years. A close examination of the facts would seem to justify Iran warning that the Yemen operation was a trap.

    YUP!

    As penny pointed out Saudi shares many similarities with okinawa.

    Occupied territory- Saudi Arabia having how much US military stationed within it’s borders?

    “Iraq and turkey are where the action is at. Sputnik just ran an article on the three layers of Russian air defenses at the airbase. Why hasn't anyone asked why the Patriots were pulled out weeks before the Russian shootdown? Now the urgency to deploy awacs and patriot batteries? “

    These are subjects that have been addressed to some degree here. Perhaps not indepth, but, I’m a one woman show a wannabe grandma who bounces ideas of her husband- I try though :)

    “Rand report on mosul dam? “

    The mosul dam situation is one of those perplexing situations- Who’s trying to take it? Why?
    Would it be great fodder for a false flag ? Mass death? Migration? I don’t know!
    How would it’s collapse affect other nations? Syria? Not sure

    “erdogan. He was hung out to dry years ago. It is somewhere on this blog characterized as caught between a rock and nato.”

    Yup, he was!

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    1. Fighters from the Kurdish Self-Defense Forces have begun storming the city of Tel Rifaat besieged by terrorists and located approximately 12 miles from the border with Turkey in Syria’s Aleppo province, a source from the self-defense forces said Monday.

      Read more: http://sputniknews.com/archive/#ixzz40FdjG0zU


      Thoughts on this?

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    2. Turkish PM Blames Russia for Striking MSF-Backed Syrian Hospital. Davutoglu, who is in Kiev in a show of support for the Ukrainian government, claimed at a press conference that the hospital had been struck by a ballistic missile launched by a Russian warship deployed in the Caspian Sea.

      http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160215/1034794378/turkey-russia-msf-hospital.html

      Davutoglu is the one to watch.

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    3. “First, the presidency is not a hobby that we enjoy. It is a responsibility, particularly in these circumstances. As to my selecting a successor, this country is neither a farm nor a company. If I want to remain president that should be dependent on two factors: first, my desire to be president, and second, the desire of the people. When the next elections come and I feel that the people don’t want me, I shall not stand. That’s why it’s too early to talk about this. We still have years before the next elections,” Assad said.

      Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160214/1034745285/syrian-president-interview.html#ixzz40FnPXwqS

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    4. The heat is being turned up in Egypt.

      Sadly, it is precisely because torture, abduction and extra-judicial killings are the policy of the Egyptian security forces - particularly since Ghaffar took office last March - that the regime is prime suspect in the murder. -

      Adrian Blomfield was Jerusalem Bureau Chief and Middle East Correspondent for the Daily Telegraph from 2009 to 2012. - See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/murder-cairo-how-west-should-respond-1039138814#sthash.F0G8FNWC.dpuf

      Ya’alon: "Not only Jordan and Egypt," he was quoted by Haaretz as having said. "I speak about the Gulf states and North African states too. Unfortunately they are not here to listen. For them, Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood are the enemy…. Iran is the bad guy for us and for the Sunni regimes. They are not shaking hands [with Israelis] in public, but we meet in closed rooms."

      http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/208042#.VsIH1dCEtPY

      Same Israel where officials quoted by the very same MEE indicated that Sisi would not survive his term.
      http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-officials-believe-sisi-will-not-survive-his-term-1117198558

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  10. Charles- don't worry about typing skills- we're all human
    I don't mind one bit-if I needed clarification I would simply ask :)

    I'll leave you and Avirgo to discuss and assist one another

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  11. Avirgo:

    " nor do I believe Penny to be an expert with insider opinion, so I just do what Penny does, read the news and parse the lines"

    no insider anything. Just read and parse
    or as I like to say, sort the wheat from the chaff.
    Something everyone should do

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