Monday, March 14, 2016

Breaking: Putin Orders Start of Withdrawal from Syria Starting Tuesday

If this report is correct, troop withdrawal will begin: Tomorrow
Putin from Sputnik article

Russian President Vladimir Putin has confirmed that Moscow will begin withdrawal of Russian forces from Syria.

On Monday, President Putin indicated that the Kremlin will start withdrawing its main forces in Syria, saying that the military has largely achieved its objectives.
The withdrawal will begin on Tuesday.
According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has informed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad of the decision.
Will Update Later- This is as reported by Sputnik
Thoughts?

UPDATE BEGINS

 "I think that the task that was assigned to the Ministry of Defense and the armed forces as a whole has achieved its goal, and so I order the defense minister to start tomorrow withdrawing the main part of our military factions from the Syrian Arab Republic," President Putin said
 With the participation of the Russian military…the Syrian armed forces and patriotic Syrian forces have been able to achieve a fundamental turnaround in the fight against international terrorism and have taken the initiative in almost all respects," the Russian president said.
"There has been a significant turning point in the fight against terrorism," Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said.

Putin expressed hope that this decision will encourage all parties involved in the Syrian conflict to pursue a peaceful resolution.
"I ask the ministry of foreign affairs to intensify the participation of the Russian Federation in the organization of the peace process towards a solution to the Syrian crisis," Putin said.

 Putin also indicated that Russian forces will remain at the port of Tartus and Hmeymim airbase in Latakia.
"Our bases of operations — our naval base in Tartus and our air base at Hmeymim — will operate as usual. They should be protected from land, sea, and air," Putin said.
"That part of our military group has traditionally been in Syria over the course of many years, and today will have to perform a very important function in monitoring the ceasefire and creating conditions for the peace process."

Gee. That sounds much like I stated the other day? In this exchange with Avirgo or CIAeh?
Same/same?
 
 
 Russia does NOT need a military base. Russia is in Syria due to one real purpose: The principle that NATO must be stopped from destabilizing countries. That is it. Purely stablity.


 I think they need a base /naval facility there or they wouldn’t have the one they do have. And they’ve had their facility at Tartus for quite some time- something like almost 50 years- I have a way back post on upgrades made to the facility.
I agree this is about stability and putting a dent in NATO’s ability to act with impunity.

Putin above: 
"Our bases of operations — our naval base in Tartus and our air base at Hmeymim — will operate as usual. They should be protected from land, sea, and air," Putin said.
"That part of our military group has traditionally been in Syria over the course of many years, and today will have to perform a very important function in monitoring the ceasefire and creating conditions for the peace process."
Russia needs a base in Syria. Therefore they have a base in Syria. And have long had a base in Syria, because they require a base in Syria.

Back to the latest news:

 Dmitry Peskov, Russia has informed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad of the decision. A statement from Assad's office stresses that the Kremlin has nonetheless pledged to continue its support for Syria in "confronting terrorism."

Assad also recognized the "professionalism, courage and heroism" of Russian Army soldiers and officers and thanked Moscow for its extensive help in fighting terrorism and in providing humanitarian relief and assistance to the civilian population of Syria.
During the phone call, both Assad and Putin agreed that the ceasefire has led to significant reduction in bloodshed, and the humanitarian situation has improved.
"The sides expressed shared opinion that the implementation of the ceasefire in Syria has helped to sharply reduce the bloodshed and to improve the humanitarian situation in the country," the Kremlin press service said in a statement.
Assad also recognized the "professionalism, courage and heroism" of Russian Army soldiers and officers and thanked Moscow for its extensive help in fighting terrorism and in providing humanitarian relief and assistance to the civilian population of Syria.
During the phone call, both Assad and Putin agreed that the ceasefire has led to significant reduction in bloodshed, and the humanitarian situation has improved.
"The sides expressed shared opinion that the implementation of the ceasefire in Syria has helped to sharply reduce the bloodshed and to improve the humanitarian situation in the country," the Kremlin press service said in a statement.
Assad also expressed hope that peace talks in Geneva will lead to concrete results, and stressed the need for a political process in Syria.
Earlier on Monday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Moscow's anti-terrorist air campaign created the conditions for political process on Syrian reconciliation.
Lavrov's statement makes it clear the Russia involvement had the aim of creating the conditions to get all parties to the table- Including the US. Plus thye want to retain Tartus. 
Additionally they were able to create that defensive bubble I've talked previously about:

 Russia building A2Ad bubble over Syria and Levant
 
A2AD Bubble Syria and the Bigger Strategic Picture

Additional news reporting:


RT

29 comments:

  1. The order to halt pumping through the pipeline came from the oil ministry in Baghdad, a company official, who asked not be identified, said.

    “There is no technical failure, it’s a decision from Baghdad,” he said.

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  2. As the US is ramping up strikes and MEE is floating stories about Kerry pushing cruise missile strikes which would be the same line pressed by Carter who just kicked off the Mosul operation into the latest dam warning (note the Us prosecuting some Iranians for a 2013 dam hack). Kerry fallout with Netanyahu noted. Dupe?

    So the question - assuming it is true (the same rumor confirmed by none other than Kerry that Iran had pulled the RG) - what does Russia know?


    http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/kerry-sought-missile-strikes-force-syrias-assad-step-down-1087172884

    US ramp
    http://sputniknews.com/world/20160314/1036269881/us-coalition-daesh-partners.html

    NATO deployments accelerating icnluding the latest Turkish and Italy drills in the desert. Emphasis

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-forces-participate-in-joint-exercise-with-italy-us-at-nevada-air-base.aspx?pageID=238&nID=96417&NewsCatID=359

    US embassy got word early?

    http://sputniknews.com/world/20160314/1036233653/ankara-turkey-blast-warning.html

    Eurasia warns on coup
    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160313/1036196143/turkey-erdogan-isolation-politics.html

    And Russia naval chief resigns in wake of Sub maneuvers in Mediterranean. Somehow related?

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  3. Sputnik asked ove rthe weekend if the MIg shootdown in hama was SAM and what it meant for Russian forces...as NUsra stole TOWs.

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  4. US just starts train and equip? Kerry and Israel a history as latest snub by Netanyahu
    http://www.voanews.com/content/israeli-minister-apologizes-to-kerry-over-scorn-for-peace-drive/1830275.html

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  5. off topic

    http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160314/1036258664/greece-macedonia-migrants.html

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150519/1022333436.html

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    1. anonymous: thanks, I'll catch up on reading as soon as I get back home
      thanks!

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  6. When I read this morning that the Russians were going to start withdrawing their forces from Syria, I did a 500mph face palm to my forehead asking...WHY???

    I for one wanted the Russians to finish the job and finish off the American led and equipped fraud "terrorist" groups.. I strongly believe in the principle that if you have kicked an enemy and have him down, you continue to kick him!!!

    This stinks to high heaven, and I wonder what the game is that we are witnessing? With the Russians pulling out, the American/Israeli/NATO criminal cabal will now accelerate their efforts in having Syria destroyed.... I feel so bad for the Syrian people...

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    1. Hey North:
      I've updated with as much info as possible
      Lavrov's statements clarifies why Russia was in Syria

      As for the Syrian people? They are still the bravest I've written about :)

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    2. Unbelievable! I agree with NTS. This is terrible news for the Syrian people

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    3. Hi james :)
      I don't think it bodes well for the Syria I've come to love that's for sure. However, Russia was never going to stay- The US and co. would have loved for them to do so- create that quagmire
      Russia cannot go down that route again

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  7. Penny,

    I find the Russian withdrawal as evidence FOR the case that Russia does NOT need military bases in Syria. These bases are NOT Russian bases, they are syrian bases. Russia also has intelligence, support personnel in Vietnam, at Camh Ranh Bay in vietnam. China has intel and support troops in Pakistan. But these are not fully controlled US bases, like in Okinawa, Korea, Diego Garcia, Guantanamo Bay, Bahrain, Germany, UK, Etc. Putin has only built these bases TEMPORARILY. He has said so many times.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-17/putin-says-he-s-not-convinced-russia-needs-syrian-military-base

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/17/putin-uncertain-on-need-for-permanent-base-in-syria-russian-missiles-can-reach-any-target/

    http://en.reporter-ua.ru/putin-base-in-syria-we-do-not-need-and-the-turkish-authorities-decided-to-lick-the-americans-in-one-place.html

    Russia has been very cautious in its deployment. It has achieved its objective. Assad has been stabilized and is winning the war. See China's war with India in 1962. Russia has finished its job and is now going home.

    If russia NEEDS this base so much why are they leaving?
    Is america leaving Diego Garcia, Is America leaving Korea, Okinawa, Bahrain? They can't even close Guantanamo Bay.

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    1. Avirgo

      "If russia NEEDS this base so much why are they leaving?"

      Putin's direct quote below- He stated they are NOT leaving the bases.. They are removing the additional troops.

      Have you read anything he stated? Anything at all?
      It doesn't seem so

      "Our bases of operations — our naval base in Tartus and our air base at Hmeymim — will operate as usual. They should be protected from land, sea, and air," Putin said.

      "That part of our military group has traditionally been in Syria over the course of many years, and today will have to perform a very important function in monitoring the ceasefire and creating conditions for the peace process."


      Read what he states himself, Putin.. Those are his (Putin's) words. Take your disagreement up with him.

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    2. Penny,

      From the Article:

      "On Monday, President Putin indicated that the Kremlin will start withdrawing its MAIN FORCES in Syria, saying that the military has LARGELY ACHIEVED ITS OBJECTIVES."

      Its main forces are combat forces.

      "That PART of our military group has TRADITIONALLY been in Syria over the course of many years, and today will have to PERFORM a very important function in MONITORING the CEASEFIRE and creating conditions for the peace process."

      Main combat forces are withdrawing, and support and peacekeeping forces are going to stay. Its going to look like Georgia Abkhazia and South Ossetia and Armenia. These are Russian peacekeeper units, not combat units. Its kinda like UN peacekeeper units.

      "Our bases of operations — our naval base in Tartus and our air base at Hmeymim — will operate as usual. They should be protected from land, sea, and air," Putin said.

      Why did Putin first intervene in Syria?
      Because Assad's SAA couldn't handle the insurgency.
      Insurgency was in danger of overunning Latakia. The terrorists took idlib, and Jisr.

      Why is Putin leaving now?
      Because SAA is strong enough to fight the insurgency now. Who will protect the naval base and air base? The SAA is enough to protect it now against insurgent activity. The russian military task force was NEVER intended to fight Turkey, Israel, or US. It was always intended to help stabalize assad. Now that it is accomplished, they can leave. Why does Putin criticize US bases?

      http://taskandpurpose.com/putin-thinks-the-us-has-too-many-military-bases-around-the-world/

      http://www.realcleardefense.com/2015/06/09/putin_us_has_too_many_bases_around_the_world_271008.html

      Putin has finished his job and is leaving. In contrast, US NEVER finishes the Job and NEVER leaves. US deliberately crates terrorism as an excuse to put bases. See drug cartels in South america. Or Jidhadis. Putin does NOT want to be a hypocrite and crate bases around the world. He does not want to be America.

      http://www.nationalinterest.org/feature/what-putin-really-wants-12311

      He doesn't want empire.

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    3. Moving the goalposts is an informal logical fallacy in which previously agreed upon standards for deciding an argument are arbitrarily changed once they have been met. This is usually done by the "losing" side of an argument in a desperate bid to save face

      You've moved your last goal post

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  8. In my response to an earlier post I specifically stated one of Russia's primary interests in Syria was the Tartus base. To conclude the Russian announcement implies they are leaving the defense of Tartus or the airbase in Latakia to the SAA shows a complete misunderstanding of the entire Syrian operation. One must also understand a few obvious things. In today's high speed world should the Syrian situation take a turn for the worse, the base can be reinforced and aircraft returned quickly. In military affairs all is not what it appears. You can bet the house the SAA will continue to be supported logistically by Russian special ops forces and advisers; without being obvious. Lastly, the Russian's showed certain capabilities that have left a lasting impression on NATO. NATO most assuredly learned the Russian military has evolved beyond what they thought was the case. They are much more capable than previously believed.
    There also exists a distinct possibility there is a Ukrainian factor involved somewhere in the background.

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    1. Hi Charles:

      "In my response to an earlier post I specifically stated one of Russia's primary interests in Syria was the Tartus base"

      Reading Putin's statement it is clear that Tartus will still be manned, still be protected by the Russians. I would have expected no less

      "You can bet the house the SAA will continue to be supported logistically by Russian special ops forces and advisers; without being obvious.

      I would agree with that.

      There also exists a distinct possibility there is a Ukrainian factor involved somewhere in the background.

      Yup, that's seems possible or actually, quite likely

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    2. I see more than simply a Federation, part of Ukraine, solution to the separatist Novorussian parts of Eastern Ukraine evolving. As NATO/EU sentiment changes concerning Ukraine the situation might evolve into an absorption into Russia proper? Though it could be wishful thinking on my part?

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    3. Meanwhile as the escalation in North Africa continues full steam ahead a Stinger is recovered in Algeria. Benghazi all over again as Russia has just warned any Libya campaign must go through the security council. Egypt just devalued and the Italian student kill as regards North African escalation and the US drone strike out of Sicily (approval as a plan is 'leaked' about an Italian invasion of Libya)looks more and more interesting.
      Lavrov in Algeria last month
      http://en.interaffairs.ru/lavrov/617-foreign-minister-sergey-lavrovs-interview-with-algerian-newspaper-lexpression-published-on-february-28-2016.html
      Russian FM in Tunisia yesterday as UK/NATO troops deploying quickly in wake of those kasserine riots
      http://tass.ru/en/politics/862111

      as the one eyed al Qaeda strikes again per SITE
      http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/03/14/world/extremists-kill-14-civilians-two-special-forces-cote-divoire/#.VudN79BSpPY

      And perhaps the most interesting of all, a German journalist is at the center of the Russian doping scandal.
      http://www.dw.com/en/wada-disturbed-by-new-allegations-of-mass-doping-in-athletics/a-18622511

      Recall it was an Egyptian arriving from Berlin German - Sinai expert - arrested in wake of Russian shoot-down that was arrested by Sisi
      http://www.dw.com/en/berlin-highlights-arrest-of-egyptian-journalist/a-18910927

      Also the German awacs that were deployed to front the nato escalation (now B52 have been announced as follow on).
      http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-germany-syria-idUKKBN0U112F20151218

      it was the german source at root of Saadam allegation. Does Germany's role outside the refugee story warrant a closer look?
      http://217.218.67.231/Detail/2015/08/09/423899/Europe-EU-Germany-arms-sales-Arab-states-Sigmar-Gabriel-

      B52 in wake of the US allegation of Russian using unguided ammunition
      http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/08/politics/b52-bombers-isis/


      Unguided munitions allegations, denied
      http://time.com/4059442/russia-bombing-syria-isis-assad/

      So Syrian plane goes down days ago with Russian media asking is this a major escalation in wake of video of TOW hitting an alleged russian tank
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3487766/Algerian-authorities-recover-anti-aircraft-systems.html

      Nusra steals some TOWs from the moderates whcih Russia says don't exist

      NATO expediting rollout of assets and logistics to Iraq and Syria and North Africa including NAVY - GERMAN lead - assets to eastern med going back to the more recent assessments of black sea kill boxes.

      Riots on the Azeri border as Armenia / Azer conflict escalation occuring. those protests from Nov 2015 still top of mind inside Iran
      http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/asia/2016/03/13/Azerbaijan-border-guards-kill-5-on-Iran-border-.html

      http://www.rferl.org/content/azeris-hold-protest-in-iran-over-racial-slur/27354275.html





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    4. http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2016/03/12/Leaked-ISIS-files-list-Paris-attackers-.html

      A Coincidence

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  9. An article of interest at Veterans Today site:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/03/12/399578/

    "Slaughtered Kurds, Stolen Oil, there may never have been an ISIS at all...."

    Certainly something implied in many of your previous posts.

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    1. Yah, went to read that. It's a bit of a bait and switch

      There has been all manner of collusion between ISIS and the Kurds, but, by Kurds, it has mostly been the PKK.

      Not so much the KRG.

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    2. Charles when you click on the link, embedded in this sentence
      "Moreover, claims that the Baku/Kirkuk/Ceyhan pipeline has been “out of action” for years now appears to be a fabrication"

      there is nothing to support the statement made in the linked article:

      http://www.iraqinews.com/business-iraqi-dinar/kurdistan-region-withholds-6-billion-usd-revenue-iraq-central-government/

      Which I am placing below:

      "On Sunday the Iraqi Oil Ministry Announced that the economic losses due to non-delivery of Iraqi Kurdistan revenues amounted to six billion dollars, adding that what is marketed by some officials in the Government of the region as “illogical and unrealistic.”

      The ministry said in a statement received by Iraqinews.com, that “the losses of the Iraq economy for 2014 up to 31 May, due to non-delivery of the region for oil revenues as a result of selling of crude oil, amounted to 6 billion and 288 million dollars. The increased losses, which are expected to remain for months this year, are nearly 8 billion and 400 million dollars.”

      The statement added: ”non-disclosure of the region for oil activity and refusing to deliver revenue to the federal treasury over the past years (2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013), though the region had got its full share of the federal budget by 17%, led to losses of more than $ 119 billion and about 70 million dollars. Asserting that:”the region refuse to announce the fate of the money and where to go.”

      The Oil Ministry asked: ”the Turkish government to respect the sovereignty and the national wealth of the Republic of Iraq and to abide by the International Convention governing the operation of oil exports, from the Turkish port of Ceyhan, signed between the two countries in 2010″, surprising at the same time, “the selling oil to Israel”.

      Nechirvan Barzani, the head of the Kurdistan Regional Government stressed (in June 4, 2014) that the Kurdistan region signed an agreement with Turkey for cooperation in the field of energy, noting that this agreement will last for fifty years and it is extendable.

      Nechirvan Barzani had been hosted by the Parliament of the Kurdistan region to illustrate the process of exporting oil from the region.
      The Iraqi government stresses that the Iraqi Oil Marketing Company (SOMO) is the only one authorized to sell the crude produced by the country, including the oil of Kurdistan.

      SOMO warned (in a statement) all the companies, individuals and institutions from buying Iraqi crude shipment loaded on the vessel (the United Adrchib) on behalf of the Iraqi Oil Ministry of the central government"

      There is not one sentence in that article that substantiates the claim made by the author that the BTC pipeline has been out of order for years

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    3. However, the PKK has attacked that pipeline very recently:

      http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/8cfac8e0-3dcd-431d-a587-45e4b5cf0d62/KRG-to-PKK--stop-sabotaging-pipeline

      "Political parties in Kurdistan Region stand against the sabotage of the Ceyhan pipeline by the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).

      Rebaz Berkoty, a member of the Erbil Provincial Council from the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) bloc, told K24 that PKK’s actions interfere with domestic affairs.

      “This move [sabotaging the oil pipeline] damages the Region's economy, which [in turn] affects the people and the government,” he told K24 in a live interview.

      Political parties in Kurdistan Region have helped the PKK before, but they are not considering the [economic] situation in the Region, Berkoty said.

      “In the name of the Erbil Provincial Council and people of Erbil, we call upon PKK to stop their interference in the Region’s affairs...this will not serve any side [and] it does not assist the peace process and our brotherhood,” Berkoty told K24.

      On Feb. 16, Kirkuk-Ceyhan crude oil pipeline near the city of Urfa in southeastern Turkey was sabotaged, triggering a long-lasting interruption in oil flow and millions in damages. The PKK claimed responsibility for the attack"

      The PKK is doing this to inflict economic harm on Erbil, because, they are not allied. Not really.
      Attacking this pipeline also cuts into Turkey's revenues- so it's a win/win for the PKK to attack it

      So the article at veterans today is very misleading and I believe, intentionally so

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    4. VT is disinformation like Stratfor

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    5. Kurds just scoffed at baghdad offer to export their crude in exchange for backed wages.
      http://ekurd.net/iraq-pay-kurds-salaries-kurdistan-2016-02-16

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    6. Anonymous,
      And what is not? Rueters? C'mon man! You pick through it all, do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Which may or may not be correct; since you most assuredly are not sitting behind any parties closed doors. I post links to articles in the hope of receiving response from a blogger more astute than myself.

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  10. An article of interest at Veterans Today site:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/03/12/399578/

    "Slaughtered Kurds, Stolen Oil, there may never have been an ISIS at all...."

    Certainly something implied in many of your previous posts.

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  11. Off topic, but this is a really weird story, no?


    http://news.nationalpost.com/toronto/a-shocking-arrest-architect-charged-with-attempted-murder-a-self-confident-over-achiever

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  12. I think Russia's withdrawal cannot help but embolden the US with its forces in eastern Syria (it is reportedly extending air bases there for its own air force.

    It also cannot help but embolden the Turkish military who are presently encroaching on Northern Syria territory.

    Syria will find itself not only fighting NATO'S proxy army in the shape of the loony jihadis as it is now but may well come face to face directly with NATO military forces soon.

    Some analysts are saying that Russia is merely disengaging its forces and can re-engage any time in the future. But if it re-engages, it may well find itself engaging NATO forces directly, and then everyone is going to be saying, "Why the fuck didn't Russia stay there in the first place and prevent the US and Turkey from advancing further into Syria?"

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