"Why kick Turkey out of NATO?And I'm supposed to sign this petition, why?
- Turkey just shut down the largest Turkish newspaper using tear gas, water canons and brutality"
Because by signing I would actually and foolishly demonstrate that I 'believe' that there really is a free press? Anywhere in the world? Anywhere at all? - Signing that petition would just make me part of the larger delusion. *I might consider signing a petition demanding the total dismantling of the tyrannical NATO global alliance. *I might consider signing a petition demanding NATO stop it horrible interventions But, signing a petition to demand Turkey is kicked out of NATO??? Absolutely pushing a war making NATO/CIA covert destabilization operation!! Readers here know that I've posited Turkey is being targeted by NATO, for years now. I've written post after post on the topic. The article from Washington's blog promoting the demonization of Turkey, via more 'grass roots' movements is absurd to the nth degree. I'm not sure what change.org is?
However, when I look at the promotion of the NATO agenda via their absurd poll, promoted by the NATO alt media, all I can say is "I am Ukrainian" !! Or how about "Get Kony/Phony Kony"? Or how about, just the other day this post: Yes, Willy Loman, It’s about Blamin’ & Framin’ Turkey & Saudi Arabia-
"I guess the garnering of public support at the “grassroots level” had to begin sometime, somewhere- Scott caught one of these groups in action. I’m sure there are other groups in other places pushing the same nonsense"Gee, change.org seems to be pushing more of that alleged grassroots public support type stuff with the help of Washington's blog- Under the guise of what promoting press freedom and peace? I laugh!
Let's talk about the shutting down of the newspaper..... mentioned in this petition.
Turkey seizes control of Zaman newspaper linked to GulenOnly a NATO/CIA alt site and a NATO/CIA supported grass roots organization could be concerned about the CIA affiliated Fetullah Gulen's newspaper being shut down. That's right. Zaman/Fetullah Gulen- CIA linked. Runs suspicious school's the world over. Schools that are outlawed in certain parts of the worlds- Has CIA friends. And ties back to the Boston Bombing
Zaman is closely linked to the Hizmet movement of influential US-based cleric Fethullah Gulen, a former Erdogan ally.
Promote or sign this petition- No way. No how. Not a chance of it happening
Flashback to a post here from 2013:
Very, very curious. I have long felt there is something, can’t quite put my finger on it, going on in Turkey.
Turkey is an interesting nation. Lots of coups. A military largely externally controlled.
Similar, very similar to Egypt.
Did Erdogan get too comfy? Is Erdogan not wanting to see Turkey balkanized for a Kurdish state?
Are we witnessing a narrative change? One I have mentioned in numerous previous posts? From Arab Spring to 'terrorism' fighting or otherwise?
Fethullah Gulen. What about Fethullah Gulen? Someone who reeks of ties to western intelligence
Remember this interview? I had it posted previously. It’s time to give it a relisten if you did then or catch it now for the first time. Fethullah Gulen gets some good coverage
Muhammed Fethullah Gülen (born 27 April 1941) is a Turkish writer, former imam  and preacher  and Islamic opinion leader. He is the founder of the Gülen movement. He currently lives in a self-imposed exile in Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania, USA.
Gulen who is in a ‘self-imposed exile’ in Pennsylvania, USA????The man who can drum up a protest at will?
Fetullah and his Zaman newspaper
Fethullah Gullen, Uncle Ruslan, Graham Fuller and the Boston Bombing
Turkish preacher named Fethullah Gülen has been living in Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania since 1999. Despite not having an education goes beyond the 5th grade, he has several hundred educational organizations such as K–12 schools, universities, and language schools (mostly English) that have been established around the world, mainly Central Asia, Caucasus, Balkans, and including U.S.A.Lives in Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania in self-imposed exile when he left Turkey in 1999.
How did he receive his US residency status while he was ‘wanted’ by the –then- Turkish Government, is still a mystery. Now, this man owns and operates charter schools in USA –through various foundations- despite the fact his Madrasas were outlawed in countries like Russia and Uzbekistan. His schools were under investigation in the Netherlands. Plus, the origin of his immense wealth, which he used to open and operate these schools all over the world, is unclear.
He operates schools that are outlawed in Russia and Uzbekistan- (Think Chechnya, ok)
A former CIA station chief in Kabul and the author of “The Future of Political Islam,” Graham Fuller was one of Gulen’s official references in Gulen’s Green Card application, along with another ex-CIA George Fidas and former U.S. ambassador to Turkey Morton Abromovitz, after Gulen rushed to U.S.A. from Turkey in 1999. It is curious how and why an Imam from Turkey had this sort of connections in U.S.A.
Ex-CIA Graham Fuller who served 15 years as an intelligence officer in various countries of the Middle East and Asia, wrote a book about Turkey, titled “The New Turkish Republic: Turkey as a Pivotal State in the Muslim World”, published in 2008. In his book, he fervently promotes the idea of “Moderate Islam”. The problem is, the man he helped escape to U.S.A. by providing references, Fethullah Gulen, was anything but a “moderate.”
Fuller was deeply involved in Afghanistan in the 1980s, encouraged the Reagan administration to begin arming Iran against Iraq during their slugfest, and suggested to the Clinton administration that it should use Muslims to further US interests in Central Asia.
Morton Abramowitz, the other reference for Gulen’s Green Card, was also deeply involved with Afghan mujahedin and Kosovo rebels. Currently, he is a Council Member (Senior Fellow) of US Asia Pacific Council.
In 2010, a retired Turkish Intelligence Chief, Osman Nuri Gundes, published his memoir titled “Close Witness to Revolutions and Anarchy” where he claimed Fethullah Gulen’s worldwide Islamic movement based in Pennsylvania has been providing cover for the CIA since the mid-1990s, and that in the 90s, the movement “sheltered 130 CIA agents” at its schools in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan alone.
Arevordi over at Heralding the Rise of Russia , Brought this article to my attention in 2013: Meet “the Most Dangerous Islamist on Planet Earth” He lives in Pennsylvania
" The cable that speaks of the “brain-washing” was written in 2009 by James Jeffrey, the U. S. Ambassador to Turkey.
In the cable, Mr. Jeffrey describes Gülen as a “political phenomena” in Turkey even when he resides “in exile” within a mountain fortress in Pennsylvania"
|An aerial view of the Golden Generation Worship and Retreat Center in rural Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania, is seen in this picture taken July 9, 2013.|
The spooky Fethullah Gulen also, amazingly, got a nod as Time magazine most influential person
Fethullah Gulen is among the world’s most intriguing religious leaders.
Gulen, however, is also a man of mystery.
Intriguing and man of mystery are tell tale words for we don't want to tell you too much, or we can't pass this guy off as someone positive
It should not be a surprise that Mr Gulen's friend and sponsor has been writing lengthy diatribes against PM Erdogan
Strikingly, Erdoğan also turned on the Hizmet movement of Fethullah Gülen
Notice that Fuller sounds a whole lot like the post from Washington's Blog and that Change.Org petition?
Erdoğan has considerably intimidated or muzzled the press, fired journalists, and forced the expulsion of other critics from their jobs via political pressure;
Flashback: Corbett Report- Who is Graham Fuller - Boston Bombing
In the days of hysteria immediately following the Boston bombing, an unlikely media darling emerged. Ruslan Tsarni, the alleged bombers’ uncle, known to the press as “Uncle Ruslan,” gained notoriety for the ferocity with which he denounced his own nephews and their alleged Islamic radicalism.
In an official SEC filing from 2005 it was revealed that Ruslan Tsarni had worked as a consultant for USAID, ostensibly an independent federal agency which is little more than an adjunct of the US State Department and is a known front for deep cover CIA agents in various geostrategic corners of the globe.
Fuller’s ties also extend to the network of Imam Fethullah Gulen, an Islamic preacher who was run out of Turkey for allegations of conspiracy to overthrow the secular government, Gulen ended up in Pennsylvania where he now oversees a vast organization known as the Gulen Movement which has over $20 billion at its disposal for setting up Islamic schools in over 100 countries.
Sign a petition that is promoting, via a grassroots type movement, the very thing which NATO is after? Destroying Turkey? Removing it's elected leadership? Even promoting this petition?
Highly suspect. Considering all that is ongoing. Considering Zaman and Gulen as CIA backed people and operations. No doubt promoting destabilization. Probably inciting segments of the population.
And I'm going to support this? No way in hell!