Thursday, June 9, 2016

Long Range Missiles Arrive In Turkey Accompanied by Italian Forces

Italian SAMP/T unit arrives in Turkey

An Italian Eurosam SAMP/T (Sol-Air Moyenne Portée/Terrestre) long-range air defence unit has arrived in southern Turkey's Kahramamaras province as part of NATO measures to reinforce Turkey's border defences against a possible Syrian missile threat.
 Syrian missile threat? Not credible

The Italian SAMP/T surface-to-air missile (SAM) batteries, which replace German Patriot SAMs that were withdrawn last year, were deployed following a Turkish request to NATO (?) to further bolster the country's restive 900 km long border with Syria, where fighting has intensified between coalition forces and Islamic State militants. The Italian batteries' equipment arrived at the Turkish port of Iskenderun on 5 June and was brought to the military post in Kahramanmaras by 10 trailers, along with 25 Italian Army personnel.

The Turkish port of Iskenderun- Well it is a port in Turkey- that much is true. Of course it's also a naval base in Turkey- But, did the Turks really request these long range missiles AND the Italian troops? I have my doubts.

Italian soldiers based in Turkey- with long range missiles
Italian soldiers based in Iraq- In Mosul. At Mosul dam
Hmmmm.... Interesting


Italy is also moving ant aircraft equipment into Turkey? Another deployment like the dam deployments. Why>

Beside the interesting coincidence with the Mosul Dam... Perhaps NATO is going to openly fire on Turkish planes?

33 comments:

  1. Bunch of MonkeysJune 9, 2016 at 2:20 PM

    Let's try this again...

    "The Islamic State awaits the army of “Rome,” whose defeat at Dabiq, Syria, will initiate the countdown to the apocalypse."

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

    You might want to check the article to see where Dabiq is. Tumblers clicking yet? Don't worry... they will.

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    1. Hey BoM
      I haven't had time to read that link yet...
      Gotta give me time... thanks :)

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    2. Okay BoM:

      Admittedly this end times stuff is not my forte at all
      I read the atlantic article..

      Written by Graeme Wood- CFR and clearly an adept propagandist masquerading as a journalist.

      He's telling readers what to believe about ISIS, but, why should we believe what he is telling us?
      I don't know?
      So, I'm at a loss, because I've never delved into this type of information

      I see where Dabiq is- right on the border- north of Aleppo- apocalyptic mythology etc.

      Can you clarify what this tells/suggests to you?

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    3. Bunch of MonkeysJune 10, 2016 at 1:13 PM

      "Admittedly this end times stuff is not my forte at all"

      Amen to that sister! ;)

      As an atheist I stayed away from that crap for as long as I could but nothing you see will make sense without learning it. After all, religion for many is a huge turn-off while for others it provides magikal mystery mojo.

      But they sure love their occult power numerology don't they? Roll up your sleeves girl... it's time to get dirty!!!

      Blast from the past Christine Lagarde and her Magic 7's speech!...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx_IZ-AcQ_I

      She just got the IMF-SDR's (AKA the 'Phoenix') to include China a couple of months ago. The NWO currency is officially on the launching pad ready to come to the rescue of an engineered global(ist) currency/economic disaster...

      http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/NEW120115A.htm

      Oh heck... and as long as we head down Memory Lane how about this little Friday treat?

      7/7/2005 let's see Christine says (2+0+0+5)=7

      So 7 7 7 (take it away Peter Power of Visor Consultants)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKvkhe3rqtc

      As for what is going to happen now and what it means?

      They have already told you. They always tell you everything they are going to do.

      Your head is going to spin a bit when 'the lights come on' but I assure you that everything after that will make perfect sense.

      Promise.

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  2. Is it strange that US (Blue Angels), Russia and Swiss demonstration fighters have crashed within a week?

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  3. Replay of the russians dumping in fighter planes and weapons while the US waited out Maliki several years ago all surrounding the Yazidi

    Who are trending again

    http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/isis/iraq/1.723637

    As russia is offering all the support to the Iraqi Kurds via Baghdad and the US is backing the Pesh with more support

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160609/1041094850/us-peshmerga-support.html

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  4. French special forces on the ground now in a throwback to the rumors of capture in 2012.

    Russia hasnt fully re-engaged on airstrikes at US request. Yest LAvrov said waiting for the US to accede to terror designations was a waste of time.

    Is plan B put NATO ops on the ground - flood the zone - and dare the Russians to strike. US just put a fast attack Sub in the MEd next to the 2 carriers?
    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2016/Jun-09/356078-french-military-in-syria-advising-rebels-says-defense-ministry.ashx

    https://www.rt.com/news/french-army-officers-syria-893/

    The Yazidi trending again this time burned alcove in mosul
    http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/isis/iraq/1.723637

    after 133 Libyans wash up onshore..





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  5. US warns on attacks in Turkey
    Merky TAC warns on tourism in echo of the ISIS threats to Europe beaches and Egyptair tourism hit
    Erdogan cancels trip to US.
    Russia says countermeasures coming to latest US ship in Black Sea as US puts fast attack in Med

    What does he know?

    http://sputniknews.com/world/20160610/1041111937/russia-us-black-sea.html
    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160610/1041110483/turkey-tourism-safety.html
    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2016/Jun-10/356300-erdogan-cuts-short-us-trip-to-skip-ali-funeral.ashx

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    1. Coup Alert?

      With the new PM talking friends not enemies as Russia talks up Turk Stream revival? 13 years was a charm in Brazil? Recalling Erdogan comments about the similarities....2013.

      With the new PM talking dovish toward friends not enemies, Erdogan wondering what he can do to fix the Russian relationship and Putin denying Turk stream and South Stream are dead, is Erdogan afraid of being out of the country? Especially in view of the latest move on the judiciary (plus the charge dismissals lately and former MIl comments about Erdogan needing to stay in power to avoid arrest) and the repeal of immunity (targeting HDP) in the long running Ergeneken? US today doubling down on backing the SDP and the Peshmerga in wake of latest dust up over US specops wearing patches. Ergo the US heavy move into the Black Sea and the Mediterranean

      https://en.qantara.de/content/erdogan-approves-controversial-bill-removing-lawmakers-immunity

      https://next.ft.com/content/db155bd4-dbe2-11e2-8853-00144feab7de

      http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160522/1040033397/erdogan-sides-turkish-military.html

      http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/new-pm-signals-shift-in-foreign-policy-more-friends-than-enemies.aspx?pageID=238&nID=99616&NewsCatID=338


      http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-forces-participate-in-joint-exercise-with-italy-us-at-nevada-air-base.aspx?pageID=238&nID=96417&NewsCatID=359
      http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/natos-new-supreme-commander-to-visit-turkish-general-staff.aspx?pageID=238&nID=99596&NewsCatID=510


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    2. So do you think that Erdogan will get overthrown?

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    3. Not a chance Ali.

      Erdogan has been placed in complete control of the country (army in particular) for a very specific reason. Once the event equating to ISIS meeting it's Waterloo in Dabiq occurs (as prophecised) Erdo will assume control and roll the Turkish army into Syria and Iraq starting a major (but very short lived) international war. He of course is not the Imam Mahdi but will be thought of and followed by many as such.

      This is how the story will be written in history...

      "On May 18, a day before Binali Yildirim was put forward to replace Davutoglu as prime minister, Tarhan Erdem, a respected analyst of domestic politics, interpreted the unfolding events as the advent of one-man rule in Turkey, alluding to arbitrary rule by Erdogan. Tracing its path, he said it began with the elections held on June 12, 2011, and laid out its three stages: preparation for one-man rule, transition to one-man rule and the advent of one-man rule."

      "What the AKP’s core Islamist constituency actually has in mind, however, is the revival of Ottoman glory in the personage of Erdogan. They want an authoritarian ruler with strong Islamist credentials who is simultaneously a shrewd international political figure, like Sultan Abdulhamid II."

      Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/05/turkey-new-prime-minister-binali-yildirim-erdogan.html#ixzz4BCUR1YPP


      http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/05/turkey-new-prime-minister-binali-yildirim-erdogan.html

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    4. Ooops! Sorry Ally.

      Was reading about Erdo leaving Ali's funeral early and this is what happens when my brain short circuits!

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    5. BOM: the neo ottoman revival was written by Davutoglu. Beware of feints. As for the Arbitrary rule by Erdogan one is left scratching their head how the dictator was left at loss as to who shot the Russian plane down. Or who leaked the transcripts of the last Syrian incursion (tomb)? Or who leaked the stories about the Italy-oil nexus? Or whose deploying assets into the country as Erdogan yesterday deplored the presence of US and Russian troops in Syria. LAst i checked that hasnt happened in Belarus.

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    6. AnonymousJune 10, 2016 at 11:23 AM

      BOM: the neo ottoman revival was written by Davutoglu.

      That is what I have read also..
      Davutoglu was playing fast and loose with that ideology.

      Wasn;t it Davutoglu that initially and promptly stated Turkey had shot the Russian plane down while Erdogan went around with a tied tongue and a deer in the headlights look? (No one was talking to him, he was out of the loop)

      And yes, the fact that NATO deployed the long range missiles to Turkey complete WITH italian troops- suggests Erdogan is right outside of the pack
      Shunned

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    7. Anonymous + Penny

      Any analysis that can be made here is only as good as the quality of the informational inputs plus the soundness of the world view that the analyst holds.

      GIGO after all. (Garbage In Garbage Out)

      Immanuel Kant knew what he was talking about when he said (very loosely) that we could never know 'truth' due to how our brains process and catagorizes the information we receive.

      Just suggesting that your frames of reference are largely grounded in MSM and alternative media inputs most of which are disinfo. As I commented yesterday concerning the Sheik... "Then there are those who know... those who aren't watching the "news"...

      So I'll ask you just one question.

      Was Putin's rise to power arranged by the KGB to facilitate the transition to the Globalist's New World Government, New World Currency and (gulp!) New World Religion?

      As you can see... IF the answer to this question is YES then what you are witnessing on EVERY front as you see it now, geopolitical, economic/financial, you name it... IS A LIE.

      You of course already know the answer is a resounding NO.

      And I am telling you (once again) that you are wrong.

      Start here >>>>>

      http://redefininggod.com/2016/02/vladimir-putin-the-mobster-who-would-be-the-globalist-messiah/

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  6. Ally: Do I think Erdogan will be ovethrown?- More likely then not

    Barrel of Monkeys ;)

    "Erdogan has been placed in complete control of the country (army in particular) for a very specific reason"

    It's highly questionable how much of the Army is under Erdogan's control and I mean highly questionable, because, we don't know how much of it is integrated with the NATO global war machine and Erdogan has zero say in that- Like all NATO nations- NATO supersedes the nation state and it's national needs- NATO is in my opinion the One world government's army

    "What the AKP’s core Islamist constituency actually has in mind, however, is the revival of Ottoman glory in the personage of Erdogan"

    What the AKP wants may be moot in this situation- There will be no revival of Ottoman glory and there was never going to be, in my opinion.

    As Ally pointed out quite succinctly Sykes Picot was done to the middle east to destroy the Ottoman Empire-

    From where I sit that looks to be a job the bankster elites want to finish up

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    1. Sykes Picot was the prep to eventual Israel 2.0 which is going to strip that area barren of people including the Kurds. It was done to create ethnic and religious instability that is being exploited for this purpose now.

      Read the Putin piece then get back to me.

      One of us is adrift at sea.

      Sure hope it's not me! ;)

      http://redefininggod.com/2016/02/vladimir-putin-the-mobster-who-would-be-the-globalist-messiah/

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    2. Bunch of MonkeysJune 10, 2016 at 1:41 PM

      "It's highly questionable how much of the Army is under Erdogan's control and I mean highly questionable, because, we don't know how much of it is integrated with the NATO global war machine and Erdogan has zero say in that- Like all NATO nations- NATO supersedes the nation state and it's national needs- NATO is in my opinion the One world government's army"

      That is also the opinion of 99.9999% of all serious analysts so you are in good (globalist) company.

      That is why when war breaks out later this summer between the US/NATO/China/Russia etc. there is going to be a push on to get Rockefeller's UNITED NATIONS to respond to the crisis with their NEW New World Order.

      The one Vladimir and Jinping keep talking about... you know the NEW Multilateral Rockefeller United Nations with power and representation for ALL nations... not the OLD Unilateral US/NATO one so we can then all live "happily ever after" with security and prosperity for all.

      (Thank you David Rockefeller! ;)

      BTW... Justin Trudeau and former CFR Director now Canada's Minister for Globalization Chrystia Freeland are BIG supporters of Rockefeller's new United Nations Parliamentary Assembly.

      Sounds good... you should read about it!

      http://en.unpacampaign.org/

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    3. BOM: You are missing the point, again. You are correct Xi and Putin have repeatedly gone back to the Multilateral framework for very obvious reasons, namely war avoidance. Your dualistic logic is left wanting. What if it the choice isn't binary but multidimensional? What exactly is the alternative to a non (old UN) in the absence of a multilateral framework? Anarchy

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    4. Bunch of MonkeysJune 10, 2016 at 3:15 PM

      Hey there Anonymous!

      You are also intentionally missing MY point AGAIN. (Funny how that works! ;)

      So... War avoidance! Ding ding ding! Correct! That will be the reason for all of the nations of the world to relinquish their respective sovereign rights to the Globalist's new multilateral UNITED NATIONS this fall/winter after the big showdown.

      BTW... France has got a great plan to divide Israel they are putting forward tot eh UN Security Council September 15th or so. Trust me... the timing will prove to be impeccable.

      Considering the mess the world is in today if you read the MSM news... terrorists popping up everywhere (with nice new shiny Toyata Tacoma pick-ups and weapon drops)... religious and ethnic hatred between former neighbors... fascist oligarchs fighting for power in the Ukraine... nations rising up against nations over territory in the South China Sea... you name it. We actually NEED a new Multilateral UN don't we?

      Except when you look just a little closer it turns out to be always THE SAME PEOPLE (neoziocons like Kissinger and Brzezinski and their minions who work for who again? Right Rockefeller!) creating these SAME wars all over the planet. It wasn't the civilian Shia who hated the Sunnis or Kurds that got things started on the road to civil war in Iraq was it?

      Nope.

      That's what YOU are missing.

      My point is that billionaires and (yes) trillionaires around the world have more in common with each other than they do with the great unwashed masses. Orwell showed you how the game is played in "1984".

      The great fortunes of the world were amassed centuries ago as you well know and with this fortune came complete political control over all nations.

      That situation has not changed to this day.

      They control Obama... they control Cameron... they control Hollande... but they also control Jinping and most importantly they control Putin.

      These "leaders' are actually bought and paid for actors and what you are witnessing in fact is Globalist Kabuki Theater.

      I see you've already bought the tickets... now enjoy the show!

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    5. You forgot one thing: the alternative. So in the absence of your obvious blather - at least quote a statistics like 55 percent of wealth is controlled by 1 percent - what is the alternative to the one worlders? Are you the resistance? Turn off red dawn and propose the alterantove.

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  7. "The military also protected Turkey’s close ties with Western governments that have been gradually turning away from Ankara"

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160522/1040033397/erdogan-sides-turkish-military.html

    that tells us all we need to know about Turkeys' military
    which btw I never saw Erdogan even once push for a move into Syria

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    1. Oh he's going alright.

      You'll see,

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  8. "The Turkish military is the only agent that wants to put on the brakes and create checks-and-balances against Erdogan,”

    Implication Erdogan needs to brought to heel- so much for the wishes of the Turkish people who btw elected Erdogan's AKP party, a big solid victory

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  9. Yeah, it is because in the Turkish constitution it says that Turkey is secular and anyone who threatens secularism has to be overthrown by the military. However, Erdogan has brought the military under his control to prevent a coup. Most of the generals have been jailed and replaced with his allies so it is under his control. But I agree with Penny, NATO might want to use the military to topple Erdogan, and NATO has done this in 1980 with Turkesh. I don't really like Erdogan because he is Islamic and Turkey should stay secular, however, the media is exaggerating him a lot, making him look worse than he is. it was the CIA that got Erdogan into power, knowing that he was Islamic. This use of Islamism in Turkey has created sectarianism and problems, many don't want it, and sectarianism is exactly what the US wants - it's the best way to destabilize a country, especially with the ethnic sectarianism between Turks and Kurds that is now rising because of the PKK. Furthermore, there is also a lot of factionalism and tribalism between the Kurdish people themselves. Read about the Iraqi-Kurdish civil war on Wikipedia and you can understand what I mean. The Kurds actually give him the most support. If it wasn't for Kurdish support, he wouldn't even be in power right now. Erdogan's mum is a Georgian Muslim and his dad is Pontic Greek Muslim so he isn't as 'Turk' as many previous leaders and so many Kurds support him. The Washington Post and other newspapers are describing him as an 'ultranationalist' which is absolute rubbish. Erdogan is a neoottomanist, wants to get rid of the Republic and him and his party members on many occasions have cursed Kemal Ataturk, the founding father of Turkey. Although Kurds are only 20%, proportionally, more Kurds support him than Turks. But I think him removing MPs' immunities is likely to cause a stir and he should avoid it.
    But Penny, how long will it take until Turkey becomes a member of the EU? We are having the EU referendum at the end of this month and many Leave campaigners are scaremongering people, saying that 'the Turks are coming'. Obviously, they won't be coming any time soon, but when? Will the EU even be around when Turkey is ready to join?
    Also, I have seen something about Erdogan wanting to create a 'safe zone' in Syria and this is because he wants to steal Syrian land and form his 'Neo-Ottomanism'. Is this true or just a conspiracy theory?

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    1. Bunch of MonkeysJune 10, 2016 at 3:47 PM

      Thanks for the great thought provoking post Ally.


      "It was the CIA that got Erdogan into power."

      Yup.

      "However, Erdogan has brought the military under his control to prevent a coup. Most of the generals have been jailed and replaced with his allies so it is under his control."

      Sounds about right.

      "The Washington Post and other newspapers are describing him as an 'ultranationalist' which is absolute rubbish."

      Ultranationalists love fighting wars don't they?

      "Also, I have seen something about Erdogan wanting to create a 'safe zone' in Syria and this is because he wants to steal Syrian land and form his 'Neo-Ottomanism'. Is this true or just a conspiracy theory?"

      He is merely doing what he has been told to do. In time he will deploy massive troops to Syria. There will likely be no 'safe' zones ever.

      If that information concerns you then take solace in the fact that nobody here agrees with me! ;)







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    2. Ok, so I'm working on a new post right now
      It's not possible we will all agree on every detail
      which is ok with me :)

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    3. Ally: Rather then the CIA bringing him in, I would say, he was groomed by one of their agents, F Gulen, in a sort of arms length manner-

      " NATO might want to use the military to topple Erdogan"

      NATO can easily use the military to topple Erdogan
      Just like they used the Egyptian military to oust their long time ally Mubarek- and then they used the military, in a coup, to push out the Muslim Brotherhood guy (name escapes me) - this causes a whole lot of division in a nation- division, instability etc., It weakens the ties of the nation.

      "and sectarianism is exactly what the US wants - it's the best way to destabilize a country, especially with the ethnic sectarianism between Turks and Kurds "

      You got it Ally! Divide to Conquer. Always!

      "Furthermore, there is also a lot of factionalism and tribalism between the Kurdish people themselves"

      Which is why the tyrannical leadership and abuse of the PKK was necessary- along with the cult like adherence of Ocalan's followers- scary stuff
      And their whole communal ideology? It's nuttier then peanut brittle (the kind with lots of peanuts)

      I can't say I blame Erdogan for cursing Ataturk- Donmeh- Read about the Young Turks- enlightening stuff

      http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/23393/the-other-secret-jews

      "And because the Dönme played an outsize role at key moments in modern Turkish history, the myth of their secret Jewish power has itself become powerful.

      Ataturk and his secularism were likely not what they seemed to have been-

      "But Penny, how long will it take until Turkey becomes a member of the EU?"

      I personally think it will be a long while still- And frankly speaking there are better reasons for the British to jump the sinking EU ship
      (I'm not a pro EU person. It destroys each nations unique identity and reduces the citizens to nothing)

      anyway that's all I have time for, sorry :(

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  10. BoM:
    I believe somewhere way back on the blog I stated that if Turkish troops enter Syria, they will be sent in at the behest of NATO- Erdogan will not send troops in (he's been securing the border ,building a wall, and that's his best option) - And the way the Kurds are targeting military men???- It's going to make things much worse for Erdogan- He is looking like a weak leader and that's not good

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  11. Gulen is allied with the CIA. I agree with Bunch of Monkeys and Penny, however, with Kemalism and Ataturk, I think Turkey should stick to this. Since he came, Turkey has become a very secular Muslim country in the ME with women's rights, education, etc. He wasn't perfect, but has definitely influenced many Turks in a good way. Many Turks have looked to him as an inspiration. He believed in freedom, independence, children's/women's rights, nationalism and democracy. The people that don't support him only don't because he was against Islamism, nothing more. Some people, especially Arabs say that he was a Jew but he wasn't, he had no religion. Most of the smart, rich, secular people in Turkey love him. It was the backwardness of the Ottomans in the 20th century that caused them to almost lose all everything and Ataturk definitely fought to change that, doing more in 15 years than some could do in 400 years. Erdogan leaving this path and heading for more Islamism will create further trouble in Turkey and take the country back into the Middle Ages, which will only work into hands of the imperialists, which Ataturk fought against...

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  12. The US began and completed building a military base in northern Syria. France has decided to join the party and now is building a base in northern Syria, too.
    Territorial integrity and international law mean nothing to these governments.

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  13. I ran across this last year and found it enlightening
    Maybe someone here will also

    National Archives - Incredible Turk - National Security Council. Central Intelligence Agency. (09/18/1947 - 12/04/1981). - This film is about Mustafa Kemal Ataturk and the modernization of the Turkish Republic.
    https://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.651784

    Erdogan had the old Sultan mansion refurbished and moved in last fall, I believe. On his desk was noticed only one adornment. An artwork piece in the shape of a fist, the symbol of Muslim Brotherhood.

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  14. Penny,
    a tweet from Obama's envoy McGurk spurs an article in Turkey news
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/a-tweet-from-obamas-envoy-that-explains-everything-.aspx?pageID=449&nID=100367&NewsCatID=508

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