Friday, September 23, 2016

Turkey, Russia Discuss Deal To Coordinate Flights Over Syria

Interesting.
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Turkey and Russia have been discussing the creation of a protocol to coordinate the flights of their warplanes over Syrian airspace in a bid to prevent unwanted incidents like the downing of a Russian jet by Turkish Air Forces on Nov. 24, 2015, a senior Turkish military source has said.
While drafting the protocol, the two sides also agreed on a "gentleman's agreement" to prevent the two sides' warplanes from entering into areas where the other side is conducting military operations.
The decision to work to coordinate military flights over Syria was taken during a meeting of the respective Russian and Turkish chiefs of General Staff, Gen. Valery Gerasimov and Gen. Hulusi Akar, on Sept. 15 in Ankara
The September 15th meeting was mentioned previously here:  Israel/Syria/Lebanon Border, Heating Up! Israel Evacuation Exercises, US Ceasefire Obligations Fail

 Chief of General Staff Gen. Hulusi Akar will meet Gen. Valery Gerasimov to discuss Syria and also to talk about military cooperation, a spokesman said.
The two top soldiers approved the establishment of a hotline between the two air forces in a bid to prevent accidents or unwanted incidents.  "Work to accomplish the protocol continues at the highest level" the senior military source told daily Hürriyet on the condition of anonymity on Thursday. If signed, the protocol will mark an important step in developing the military-to-military relationship and coordination between Turkey and Russia in Syria.
The need to make a protocol to coordinate flights in Syria with Russia became urgent after the Turkish army launched the Operation Euphrates Shield on Aug. 24 in a bid to remove Daesh from its border.
"We have carried out 97 sorties against Daesh positions as part of the Operation Euphrates Shield" the source said.
I'll be following this news, that's for sure!

One big benefit to this agreement- If it advances... It's going to be harder for certain interested parties to create a false flag.

Like shooting down a Russian plane and  blaming Turkey? Oh wait, that already happened! Once bitten, twice shy?

10 comments:

  1. Hi Pen,

    in response to your comment on the previous post-

    Syria, Turkey and Russia all have an interest in keeping the Kurds out of that corridor north of Aleppo because of pipelines proposed from Iran.

    Israel, the US and the Kurds all have an interest in the kurds taking over that corridor for the sake of the Qatari pipeline.

    (Vanessa Beeley did a very good article on this a couple of days ago. Don't have the link handy and I'm off to bed now! )

    The Turks, israel and the US all have an interest in ISIS keeping hold of Aleppo and they all want the ISIS loonies freed up elsewhere to to travel to Aleppo and fight there.

    So the Turks want ISIS out of the corridor so they can go to Aleppo but the Turks don't want them replaced (as per normal) with the Kurds. So the Turks do a deal with the Russians to replace ISIS with Turkish troops.

    The Russians go along with it because they don't want the Kurds in the corridor and they also want ISIS in Aleppo so as to catch them all in one place and put them in a cauldron and eliminate them - b-b-q'd jihadhi - as is happening right now.

    The problem is going to be getting Turkish troops out of Syria later. Shaking hands with a scorpion is never a good idea.

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    1. I'm less certain, myself, that Turkish troops will stay in Syria if this scenario plays out-
      Not in any large quantity, anyway


      There is only so many troops Turkey can commit to this because they are being actively destabilized...

      I'm wondering if turkey and russia can make this agreement how it would affect the NATO sorties...

      would it keep them out of the area?
      I don't know?
      lots to ponder that's for sure!

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    2. Watch what Akar does.

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    3. anonymous

      In what way?

      personally, I am highly suspicious of Akar, but that's just my own perception of him.
      What should I look for in your opinion?

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    4. Let me explain my suspicions wrt Akar
      the coup? the plotters tied him up and left him?
      why? why not just kill him? they killed others, so what's the issue?
      I find that curious and questionable to say the least

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    5. @james: ISIS aren't in Aleppo, its dominated by Al-Qaida.

      Penny,
      I too am very suspicious of Akar. When the time comes, he will side with NATO over his own country. He needs to be fired ASAP.

      No large number of Turkish troops will enter Syria & those there won't stay.
      The Turkish OP is mainly an effort to separate the rebels, which Erdogan promised Putin he would do, & then to prevent Kurds from grabbing more land.

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    6. Penny,
      "I too am very suspicious of Akar. When the time comes, he will side with NATO over his own country. He needs to be fired ASAP"

      Hi Rescue! wondered where you had gotten to!
      And whew glad I'm not alone in my suspicions!

      "No large number of Turkish troops will enter Syria & those there won't stay.
      The Turkish OP is mainly an effort to separate the rebels, which Erdogan promised Putin he would do, & then to prevent Kurds from grabbing more land"

      Yah, I don't see a massive deployment or occupation at this point in time- Turkey can't afford it- Realizing they have a large army but there are daily attacks on Turkish military and/or police

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  2. http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/09/turkey-syria-united-states-seeks-more-military-cooperation.html

    Again I ask: "who's zoomin' who"?

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    1. from the link: "Analysts who say the FSA is not a viable force against IS argue that the Turkish military needs the help of US forces as it prepares to move on the IS stronghold of al-Bab"

      There is nothing in that article indicating that Turkey is seeking more military cooperation- the author suggests Turkey does as I read it.

      The incident with the US special forces suggests to me that the US assistance was not wanted.
      Likely because it would have been interference as opposed to assistance.


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