Wednesday, October 5, 2016

Did The UN Truly Confirm Aleppo Aid Convoy Attack Was an Air Strike? No!

If you were headline skimming today, you could be forgiven for thinking there was some real hard evidence of an airstrike. Especially with headlines claiming "UN Expert" employing a big fat, appeal to authority, logical fallacy.
An appeal to authority is an argument from the fact that a person judged to be an authority affirms a proposition to the claim that the proposition is true.
Appeals to authority are always deductively fallacious; even a legitimate authority speaking on his area of expertise may affirm a falsehood, so no testimony of any authority is guaranteed to be true.
Attack on Aleppo aid convoy was air strike: U.N. expert

There is no definitive proof,  evidence or confirmation what so ever!
Claim "Analysis of satellite imagery of a deadly attack on an aid convoy in Syria last month showed that it was an air strike, a U.N. expert said on Wednesday"
Some 20 people were killed in the attack on the U.N. and Syrian Arab Red Crescent convoy at Urem Al-Kubra near the northern city of Aleppo that also destroyed 18 of 31 trucks, a warehouse and clinic.

The United States blamed two Russian warplanes which it said were in the skies above the area at the time of the incident. Moscow denies this and says the convoy caught fire.
Alleged proof: "We had an image of that and could clearly see the damage there. With our analysis we determined it was an air strike and I think multiple other sources have said that as well," Lars Bromley, research adviser at UNOSAT, told a news briefing.
Lars Bromley is discussing an image of damage."We had an image of that and could clearly see the damage there"  Not confirming an airstrike.

He then employs the logical fallacy of Bandwagon:The bandwagon fallacy is committed by arguments that appeal to the growing popularity of an idea as a reason for accepting it as true
The Bandwagon statement verbatim: "I think multiple other sources have said that as well,"

Lars Bromley continues:
"For air strikes, what you are usually looking out for is the size of the crater that is visible and the type of crater," he said. A giant crater was caused "almost certainly (by) air dropped munitions" as opposed to artillery or mortars, he said.
 Notice that the quoted statement “almost certainly by airdropped munitions” is out of context?
Would his second statement have supported the first statement had it not been taken out of context?
Even if we take that  second sentence at face value and we should not, “almost certainly”, does not equal confirmation!
Reuters: "The United Nations has referred officially only to an "attack", which led to a brief suspension of its convoys in Syria. The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies initially referred to "air strikes" in a statement"
Here’s where we get to the real nitty gritty!.

UNOSAT (U.N. Operational Satellite Applications Programme), which reviews only commercially available satellite images, has not been asked to share its analysis with the U.N. investigators, but is prepared to do so, UNOSAT manager Einar Bjorgo said. "Our images are from time to time used in order to brief Security Council members," he said.
 UNOSAT has not been asked to share it’s analysis with UN investigators. Then how can confirmation be claimed? Obviously, it cannot.

Let’s read still more gibberish passing as confirmation
‘"What you see is (that) formerly blasted and blown up areas are experiencing a great deal of additional damage. So it's actually hard to do the analysis because to a certain extent you are looking at rubble being pushed around. But it's certainly highly visible."
Additional damage? From mortar fire? Grad Missiles? I can think of several possibilities why there would be additional damage?
"it's actually hard to do the analysis" He's clearly leaving himself lots of room for when this claim is demolished. He's leaving room for error so his credibility cannot be questioned, though it should be.
“Rubble being pushed around”- could be anything from a bull dozer being used, to terrorist tunnels being dug, to large gusts of wind. It could be anything

The UN expert confirmed nothing and the headlines from today are nothing more then the same type of toxic perception management that is discussed endlessly here at the blog!

UPDATE: 12:42 EST- Wednesday October 5/2016

More Fake NEWS!!!

Clearly the Aid Convoy Air Strike news is the disinfo meme for today, or at least one of them!
Here's additional headlines to validate the point being made:
The Reuters news story, linked above, tied the Aleppo Convoy attack to an airstike was complete and utter propaganda. A number of others ran with it. No critical thinking skills employed by Huffpost/Sputnik or The Sun. Unflippin' believable! Well, not really considering yesterday's post!

Fake News & False Flags: US Paid 660 Million Dollars For Propaganda

The actual news emanating from the UN had nothing to do with the convoy and everything to do with Aleppo in general

The news that was being reported will be featured in full below- The url does not match the headline or story, which is kind of odd.  Headline: "UN releases satellite images of damage in Syria's Aleppo"


GENEVA (AP) — The U.N. on Wednesday released stark satellite images showing the most recent destruction of Syria's embattled northern city of Aleppo, which has been pounded by Syrian and Russian airstrikes since the collapse of a U.S.-Russia brokered cease-fire two weeks ago.

The release coincided with a stepped-up offensive by Syrian government forces and their allies attacking the city from the south in a bid to penetrate opposition-controlled areas, where the U.N. estimates 275,000 people are trapped in a government siege.

In Geneva, an official with the U.N.'s satellite imagery program said the new pictures from the rebel-held areas in the eastern half of the city show much destruction, presumably caused by airstrikes. U.N. and advocacy groups say hundreds of civilians, including at least 100 children, have died in the recent violence.
"Since the cease-fire has broken down, you certainly see an awful lot of new damage," said Lars Bromley, a research adviser at UNOSAT.

The images, from DigitalGlobe and obtained by the U.N. agency through a licensing arrangement with the U.S. State Department, show mostly "formerly blasted and blown-up areas" during Syria's 5-1/2-year war "experiencing a great deal of additional damage," said Bromley.
Satellite imagery from the U.S. State Department! Gosh, the US wouldn't doctor satellite imagery would they? ;)
"To a certain extent you're looking at rubble being pushed around," he told reporters.

That's the exact quote from the news article claiming airstrikes hit the Aleppo aid convoy!

The images primarily consist of before-and-after pictures from mid to late September showing the destruction of buildings, including houses, after the short-lived cease-fire broke down. Several images are from northern Aleppo neighborhoods, where government forces have advanced against rebel fighters who are battling back.

Some of the images depict large craters, a "signature" that airstrikes have done the damage. Artillery or mortar fire creates a different pattern of destruction, Bromley said.

Airstrikes in Aleppo. Not airstrikes to the aid convoy. Reuters wrote a total disinfo article all these other news outlets ran with it!

The U.N. satellite images could provide significant insights in the aftermath of high-profile, disputed attacks — such as a deadly attack on a U.N.-backed humanitarian aid convoy west of Aleppo last month.

"could provide insights" But didn't because this news had zero to do with the convoy, despite media disinfo and spin

The top U.S. military officer, Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford, told a Senate committee last week that he believes Russia bombed the convoy and said Syrian and Russian aircraft were in the area at the time. Russia and Syria have denied that they were responsible for the strike, with Russia saying the damage was caused by a cargo fire.
Wash, rinse and more spin!
hattip to my hubby for finding the news article containing the actual content- not connected to the spin


  1. Penny,

    Lots of breaking news at alamsdar news. US murders 20 Iraqi fighters against takfiris. More US support for their isis allies. What a week for the indespensibles. One hundred SAA Troops, 20 Somali's in Iraq and now this. While horse-face john and fightin'sam go on and on about Russian/Syrian attacks on civilians. Including rocket attacks within government controlled west alleppo?

    1. went to read al masdar and Qayyara is south of mosul city- the us would've hit them to impede the Iraqi military from taking Mosul- since the US is planning to ensure the PKK takes and rules Mosul with an iron fist

    2. and they would have hit these fighters intentionally too! for greater kurdistan aka Israel 2.0
      recall my post from the other day that reported on the heavy bombardment we never hear or read about?

  2. Did some of the trucks possibly contain weaponry and ammo? Which exploded and caught fire? I'm searching for sources. Then there's that US drone said to have been overflying the area? Pretty darned fishy, what with the timing?

    1. Hey Charles- there is a interesting thought- trucks loaded with munitions- that could do it!

  3. I've updated the post with the news as it was reported about Aleppo in general and how convenient it is that the UN was provided all satellite imagery by the US State department!

  4. Hi Penny. Just got home and looking through the internet. Shocking just how much they are lying to us. It feels good to come onto this blog and engage with likeminded people even though I don't know any of you. Love to read the truth. Our Boris keeps banging on about Russian 'savagery'. He was all up for 'working with Russia' 3 months ago but now that he's become FS, he is a member of the 'globalist club'. What do you think Putin and Erdogan will talk about specifically? Apparently, the meeting is on the 10th not 11th.

    1. Hi Ally:
      I'm glad you enjoy coming here :)
      It's a good space.

      Hang around here and you'll know us, in time

      Hubby read the news that Putin and Erdogan had talked
      His impression and I concur was that Putin & Erdogan are going to accomplish as much as possible in a limited time frame

  5. Do the YPG control north of Aleppo?

    1. YPG control a section of Aleppo city- eastern of course, alongside their terrorists friends
      and yes I am pretty sure they control parts of the province also

  6. Sorry for all the comments but Putin and Erdogan held a phone convo today:
    What do you think of Saudi bombing Yemen?

    1. I responded regarding the phone call to you above
      Saudi bombing Yemen in general- it's another proxy war-

      Saudi Arabia should get the heck out of their and less the US do their own dirty work


    See report and video from South Front. This is a very scary scenario. If the real terrorists, the CIA, US military and State Department war mongers follow through on striking SAA positions all hell could break loose? Who among the true terrorists and their allied takfiri proxies give a damn about Syria and the Syrian people. Insanity is not a strong enough term to describe their actions or their potetial actions.

    1. will check that out Charles- thanks

  8. Putin/Erdogan

    Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan discussed in a phone call on Wednesday the Syrian crisis and the prospects of improving Russia-Turkey ties, the Kremlin press service said.

    According to the statement, Putin and Erdogan also confirmed their upcoming meeting at the World Energy Congress in Istanbul, and reaffirmed mutual desire to restore bilateral economic ties as well as to implement the Turkish Stream and the Akkuyu NPP construction projects.

    "The sides emphasized the need to step up international efforts aimed at facilitating peaceful political process in Syria, as well as creating favorable conditions…for resolving urgent humanitarian issues in the country," the press service said in a statement.


    Another massacre of Syrian civilians by?? The US. Takfiri attacks to follow shortly is my guess.


    This one I am not so certain about. Are the civilians innocents or takfiri's and their family members. Or possibly takfiri sympathizers. Time for some fact checking?

  11. Penny,
    The surname Barzani is a common Iraqi Jewish surname

    reminds me of Sassoon aka Katz jewish klan