Tuesday, October 18, 2016

Russian/Turkish Rapprochement. Certainly Not A First!

The other day wizoz left a comment below the post: An Insecure West and Turkey?
Let's make a short incursion in history.
"The Treaty of Hünkâr Iskelesi (once commonly spelled Unkiar Skelessi, and translating to The Treaty of "the Royal Pier" or "the Sultan's Pier") was a treaty signed between the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire on July 8, 1833, following the military aid of Russia against Mehmed Ali that same year. The treaty brought about an alliance between the two powers, as well as a guarantee that the Ottomans would close the Dardanelles to any foreign warships if the Russians requested such action. The treaty would have significant consequences regarding the Ottoman Empire’s foreign relations, especially with Great Britain and Ireland, as the terms of the treaty worried the other great powers of Europe."
The panic in Western capitals was so great that they sent the Navies to the Dardanelles, threatening the Turks.

I had bookmarked an article about this agreement, and others, and the subsequent concern to ‘the great powers of Europe” Pravda By Harun Yahya

 One can understand the apprehension of Europe when you imagine the influence in the region the two countries could have as a unified force.


After the start of normalization between Turkey and Russia, and the subsequent coup attempt on July 15, Turkish and Russian governments stepped up their efforts to solidify an alliance. Both countries began developing common strategies with respect to regional issues, most notably those regarding the Black Sea and Syria. It is also expressed that once this alliance reaches maturity, Iran, Azerbaijan and even Pakistan might also join in. As a matter of fact, Iran started to take steps in that direction and initially made its Hamedan airbase available for use by Russian planes.

This alliance, proposing that only the regional nations can find solutions to the regional problems, is a valuable step that has real potential to bring peace longed for by the entire world. 
However, this is certainly not the first instance of a rapprochement between the two nations. In 1833, the Treaty of Hunkar Iskelesi (Unkiar Skelessi) brought about a joint defense alliance. Sultan Mahmud II and Russian Tsar Nicholas I prudently realized that such a treaty could block the plots of third party countries. According to the treaty, if one party requested military assistance, the other would offer that help with all its resources. Furthermore, according to the confidential clause of the treaty, in case of a war, the Ottomans would close Dardanelles to all warships except for the Russian ships. 
This treaty became possible due to Russia's support for Ottoman during Mehmet Ali Pasha's riot. Upon the request of Mahmud II, the Russian army helped suppress the riot. Mehmet Ali Pasha, who had achieved military successes against the Ottoman army up to that point, dared not fighting the Russian army and signed the peace deal. This move effectively ended the riot. The positive outcome prompted the two leaders to make their cooperation official.

With the Treaty of Hunkar Iskelesi, two sides guaranteed the safety of each other. However, even though the treaty was confidential, the European countries managed to acquire its details with the help of the British ambassador Ponsonby. Britain and France immediately protested against the treaty and British fleets were dispatched to the shores of Izmir. Facing such reaction, Ottoman Empire had to retreat and signed the Baltalimani Treaty with the British, which included heavy economic terms. Due to European threats of war and political pressure, the treaty had been revoked by the London Treaty of 1840.
The sending of British fleets to the Turkish shores was a definite signal of British aggression
One can see similar traces of foreign intervention in the wars between Turkey and Russia. Two countries were pitted against each other over and over again by means of insidious plans, and war was shown as the only solution. Spies, diplomats, treacherous soldiers, double-dealing politicians, paid warmongers in the media considered their personal gains over their respective countries' interests. As a result, two neighboring countries fought while others took advantage of these conflicts.
The two countries were pitted against one another time and time again- Think about the well timed shoot down of the Russian jet- Just another example of pitting Turkey and Russia against one another?  Definitely.

11/2015  : The Russian minister said there was a question of American involvement in the downing of the Russian plane. According to his sources, the US demands all members of the anti-IS coalition led by Washington, who use US-made military aircraft, coordinate all deployments with the US military. “I wonder if this demand of the Americans covers… Turkey. If it does, I wonder whether Turkey asked permission from the US to fly its US-made planes and take down – let’s say 'an unidentified' – plane over Syrian territory,” Lavrov said.

Lavrov is saying the US was behind the shootdown!
Another example of the historical Russian-Ottoman rapprochement took place during the reign of Sultan Abdulaziz. Son of Mahmud II, Abdulaziz too considered Russia a close ally and friend and started an alliance process one more time. Russian ambassador to Istanbul, Mr. Ignatiev mediated in this process of friendship. However, once again, a group of British-sympathizing soldiers staged a coup and ousted Sultan Abdulaziz. The policies of Mithat Pasha, who came to power, ''British'' Said Pasha and the new sultan caused another war between the Ottomans and Russians, which ended with a death toll of 250 thousand people.

Similar plots and schemes continued throughout 18th and 19th centuries and gave rise to a total of six wars. During these wars, certain European countries led by the British, sometimes sided with the Ottomans and sometimes with the Russians. These powers, provoking and giving rise to the wars, then acted as mediators to assist in signing peace treaties. Regardless of the winner on paper, it was actually both countries who lost in all those wars. Innocent people died, cities came down and both empires eventually collapsed as a result of such plots.

In the 20th century, Turks have always received a friendly hand from their northern neighbor Russia. For instance, it was the Russians who revealed the existence of the Sykes-Picot Agreement.
During Turkish war of independence, we enjoyed military and financial support from Russia. Indeed, as a gesture of appreciation, statues of two Russian generals, General Frunze and Marshall Voroshilov were erected in Taksim Square, the heart of Istanbul, among others who won the Independence War.
Russia supported the Turkish industrial efforts during the first years of the Republic. This friendship contributed in the recovery of war-torn Anatolia. However, our young Republic fell victim to similar past plots; whenever the two countries created warm friendly ties, civil unrest and military coups followed in Turkey. Clearly, certain circles didn't like the friendship between Russian and Turkish nations.

20th century brought pains to both nations. Russian and Turkish lands were occupied, dismembered and foreign powers made ambitious plans to share them. Nevertheless, the brave people of the two countries didn't allow such sinister plans to be successful, even if it meant losing their lives.

In the 21st century, under the leadership of President Erdogan and President Putin, the two countries started on an unnamed alliance in areas of politics, economy and trade. Mega projects were announced one after another. Joint companies and friendships were established. Russians and Turks enjoyed the comfort of friendship and fraternity. Even the regrettable incident of plane downing in December 2015 was not able to eclipse the long-time friendship. Despite the heavy domestic and foreign pressure otherwise, Turkey and Russia entered a normalization process and today continue to improve their relations, picking up where they left off. There are no longer any obstacles before the two countries' common action. We have to pay special tribute to President Putin and President Erdogan for their devoted efforts to making this friendship possible.

It should be remembered that countries that built great civilizations in history will never completely disappear. Indeed, both countries today enjoy sizable influence and power in their regions. As a matter of fact, Russia hosts a Muslim population that is larger than many Islamic countries. 20 million Muslims in Russia are siblings to the nations of both countries. Considering this magnificent power potential, it is obvious that only the Russian-Turkish alliance can bring peace to conflict zones. Therefore, it shouldn't come as a surprise that some circles that feed off wars are targeting this alliance. What the 230 million people of Russia and Turkey should do is to protect our common goals with all our might and work to further reinforce this unity. 

16 comments:

  1. http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2016/Oct-18/376910-syria-security-chief-in-first-public-foreign-visit-to-egypt.ashx

    " Syrian security services chief Ali Mamlouk met with Egyptian officials in his first public foreign visit in five years, state media in Damascus said Monday. State news agency SANA said Mamlouk met with Egyptian head of general intelligence Khaled Fawzy and other “high-level security officials” during his one-day visit."

    Nayef to Erdogan: 'targeted'
    Aramco delays IPO until 2018
    Aramco cuts off Egypt energy shipments
    Syrian defense shows up in Egypt
    Flashback: Egypt inlet head Suleimon dies allegedly in US hospital unexpectedly within days of Then anti brotherhood crown prince Nayef (the current Crown Prince father and the same Crown prince that the NYT just wrote the Deputy Crown Prince is targeting to displace). And the same DCP (Dep Crown prince) that the Iranians just said may kill his own father to usurp the crown (Qatar transition more orderly)

    Upstream: Russian deploying Sinai/Suez
    Downstream: USN attacks in the Red Sea Choke point

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  2. https://youtu.be/7bH21w2R0hc check out Harun Yahya's club aka Adnan Oktar

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    1. believe it or not one of his surgically enhanced followers stopped by here previously?

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    2. I'm getting a "404" when trying to connect to the link Ally left.

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    3. Hey Gwen

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bH21w2R0hc&feature=youtu.be

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    4. VICe
      http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/business/media/vice-hires-alyssa-mastromonaco-former-official-in-obama-white-house-as-top-executive.html

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      http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/business/media/vice-hires-alyssa-mastromonaco-former-official-in-obama-white-house-as-top-executive.html

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    5. LOL- Vice is total mockingbird/pentagon press

      Obama administration official, as its chief operating officer.

      "The hiring signals how Vice, known for its renegade reporting and on-the-edge articles and videos, is seeking a new level of management as it navigates its next stage of growth. Ms. Mastromonaco, who officially starts in January, will oversee all of the company’s operations as well as take responsibility for expanding its global business"

      Vice and renegade reporting are like oil and water- no mix

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    6. http://www.vice.com/video/the-rebels-of-libya-1

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    7. http://www.vice.com/video/the-rebels-of-libya-1

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    8. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2474533/The-terrible-truth-Gaddafis-harem.html

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  3. Ally: would you know if the history is accurate?

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  4. I've added additional info to the post- overall the history though basic appears accurate

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  5. Sorry, can't confirm but it seems true. The military coups in Turkey were all CIA backed though. The Grey Wolves wouls be used against the state. Check out these links: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201610181046473354-saudi-prince-execution/

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/erdogans-checkmate-cia-backed-coup-in-turkey-fails-upsets-global-chessboard/5538735

    https://sputniknews.com/news/201610081046125611-UN-demands-stop-child-executions/

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    1. Hey Ally:

      I have a post here all about the Grey Wolves and yes they will be used against the Turkish State

      Eric Draitser from your global research link
      (I missed that article and his analysis is generally quite good)

      "In effect, what the 1980 coup demonstrates more than anything is that the Turkish military, as well as the far right fascist terror gangs such as the Grey Wolves, are in various ways assets of the US, and under the thumb of US intelligence"

      Yes!

      here's the link back:

      http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2015/12/natos-left-behind-gladio-and-grey-wolves.html

      A while back the meme going around was "erodogans' grey wolves" more mind virus- even a half hour to hour spent digging would make it clear they are NATO's grey wolves

      this ties back to the Russian jet shootdown

      ""To begin with, it’s worth recalling that Alparslan Celik, the so-called 'Turkmen commander' who boasted that he killed the pilot of the Russian Su-24 downed over Syria by the Turkish Air Force last month, is allegedly a Turkish national, and a member of the Grey Wolves."

      Grey Wolves and Uighers

      Grey Wolves seem to have a kinship with Chechens. All this inter-connectedness puts the Grey Wolves firmly in the NATO fold.

      Reread that post Ally- might offer you up some helpful insights

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    2. Great article. Yah, I just think that the Grey Wolves are very nationalist. Some support Erdogan but others don't, they think he is supporting the Pkk and Kurds. Most Grey Wolves are secular, I think, just quite fascist. Read this too: http://www.globalresearch.ca/will-turkey-leave-nato-if-clinton-becomes-president/5551169

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