Monday, November 21, 2016

More US/Turkish/Russian/Syrian Confrontation. Via Proxies with or without Manpads?

Would the US supply PKK/YPG with ManPads also? Let's entertain that as a possibility?

ISIS does not fly planes!  So we KNOW the supply of ManPads has nothing to do with the fight against ISIS!  And  is intended purely to escalate the war making, against numerous participants, in the region. A declaration of war on the part of the US!

*Ansar Al Islam (Syrian "rebels") have US Approved Anti-Aircraft Missiles or Manpads

"A Syrian rebel group has paraded a cache of shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles, the first evidence of the weapons being supplied to opposition forces after an expected relaxing of US restrictions.
Despite the claims of US/Turkish alliance- The reality is quite the opposite and has been for some time. Sure Turkey has it’s turn coats who will happily cooperate with the continued US destabilization of Turkey.  
- An example of that would be the persons who participated in the US fomented coup attempt.
- And the PKK/YPG allies already destabilizing Turkey, as Turkey continues to confiscate US supplied arms from PKK in Turkey.

*The Impact of the Kurdish/US Campaign to Take Raqqa: Syria/Turkey's Betrayal/Russia

“The U.S. says they don’t give arms to the YPG. But we know that they have done since the Kobane [battle between the YPG and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant]. We captured those arms from [outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party] PKK militants in Turkey. So we know that the U.S. gives weapons to the YPG. And we told [U.S. Chief of General Staff Joseph] Dunford not give weapons to them,” Çavusoglu
 Turkey and the US are not allied in Operation Euphrates as it advances to Al Bab

*US Led Coalition NOT backing Turkish Move on Al-Bab: ISIS leaves 8 Villages for Kurds

“Their offensive on the city of Al-Bab is not being supported by coalition air strikes because it was “independently” launched by Turkey, said US Colonel John Dorrian, a spokesman for the coalition fighting the jihadist group in Syria and Iraq”
*US/Turkey Confrontation- Turkish backed rebels fighting US backed Kurds

Reuters- ignoring the spin of course!
Example of Reuters spin? - Every time Turkish backed rebels says YPG- Reuters says SDF
It’s YPG. It’s PKK. The biggest faction of Arabs left SDF

“Syrian rebels backed by Turkey who are trying to drive Islamic State from the city of al Bab said on Monday they clashed with U.S.-backed Kurdish forces” (Kurdish forces who have annexed Syrian territory and are holding elections, taking census etc)
Fighting erupted in the village of Sheikh Nasser.
"We clashed with the Kurdish YPG and we took over the village," said Abu Assad Dabeq, a commander in the Turkish-backed Operation Euphrates Shield

"The YPG are trying to advance to the areas we are advancing to," said Abu Assad Dabeq, adding his troops were already only a few kilometres away from al Bab

I found the tidbit below interesting:
"They (YPG) are competing with us to reach al Bab. They are working on cutting all roads either from Aleppo or in the direction of al Bab," he added.

The YPG( SDF )had effectively created a belt that separated the mainly Arab Sunni rebels from where the Syrian army was positioned further south, he added”

So the Turkish backed rebel reports the Kurdish fighters created a belt between SAA and the Turkish rebels- As if to keep them apart? Why would they do that?

"The Turkish air force is helping to push back the YPG militias who have been exploiting our gains from Islamic State to step into villages vacated by the militants," Abu Anas said referring to four villages west of Manbij

Yes, the Turkish military is flying over Syria

*Turkish air force hits Daesh, PKK/PYD targets in Syria

Turkey’s military released details of overnight airstrikes on terrorist positions in northern Syria on Monday.

A statement from the military said Turkey’s air force hit six headquarters and 11 defensive positions belonging to the Daesh terror group.

Turkish forces also hit four defensive positions belonging to the PKK/PYD, killing 11 terrorists.

In separate strikes, targets hit included 64 Daesh and 11 PKK/PYD objectives, including shelters, command-and-control centers and vehicles.

Turkey-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) special task force soldiers continued land-based attacks to control areas to the east and west of Al-Bab.

FSA troops gained control of Sheikh Nasir village near Al-Bab after Daesh withdrew. (Under fire, not via agreement with Kurdish militias)

As I mentioned earlier today and at the opening of this post,  the US has just okayed the supply of  Manpads to it’s special rebel friends in Syria–

This will enable these rebels to shoot down Syrian planes. Russian planes. Turkish planes.
Hence confrontation between Turkey and the US has already occurred (coup- aligning with PKK/YPG) , is occuring (fighting between proxies)  and could get escalate.  Turkish plane shoot downs by US backed rebels, Kurd or otherwise, giving the US that good ol' plausible deniability they are so fond of ....  


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17 comments:

  1. It appears the formerly predicted walk over in Mosul has run into more than a few obstacles. It's being reported the US backed offensive has stalled. Must do more research and provide links. More to come.

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    1. Hey Charles:

      Rescue was mentioning the US may be employing a stall tactic in Iraq- since the Shia militias has said they were heading to Syria to assist in Raqqa

      I had reported on this in a previous post
      the shia militias were shown with Barzani in Iraq

      Checking the news this am on Iraq it looks as if progress is being made

      There is a steady increase in the displaced persons numbers... which implies the ethnic cleansing is going along swimmingly

      Iraqi forces retake six villages from IS around Mosul

      http://www.aninews.in/newsdetail-NA/Mjg4NDA4/iraqi-forces-retake-six-villages-from-is-around-mosul.html


      U.S. strike destroys bridge, restricts Islamic State in Mosul: official

      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-idUSKBN13H0Z1?rpc=401&


      One-third of Mosul liberated from ISIS terrorists: Iraqi FM

      http://en.abna24.com/service/middle-east-west-asia/archive/2016/11/22/793449/story.html

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    2. will watch for additional info !

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    3. If 37 days of continuos heavy fighting in the vicinity of as well as certain portions of Mosul itself appears as a stall tactic, it certainly does not to me. As for the liberation of Raqqa, I believe the SAA might accomplish the task if not for the impediments being thrown against them by certain players. Not only the US/Kurd terrorists but also other regional players. I recall the statements made not long ago that the taking of Mosul was going to be a cake walk.

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    4. If Mosul is being slowed up it is a stall
      A stall to keep certain persons out of Mosul

      ISIS is a US proxy...always remember that

      And they gave orders to not shoot at American planes to their peons (you provided that news article which I used as a post,recall?)

      http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2016/11/daesh-document-tells-daeshisis-to-not.html

      And Hollande himself said it was going good

      But keep in mind the US does not want the Shiite militias or Iraqi forces to win in Mosul. So if ISIS is putting up a struggle it's so these parties don't take the city

      And believe me charles the dam as a last resort has never left my mind

      Do you know the US has blown 4 of 5 bridges across the river---- that spells sitting ducks..


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    5. http://en.alalam.ir/news/1888242

      A little evidence of recent shia militia incursions in Mosul.

      I agree 100% that ISIS is the US, no disagreement there. Aware of the destruction of bridges as well and completely agree with your assessments. The dam is the last card in the deck. If the situation begins to deteriorate for empire, the dam surely goes away. Dams are also in play in Raqqa. The non-humans, who make up the various takfiri, daesh groups are in control of dams there too. They simply await washington's orders. Is any sort of conclusion that is beneficial for the Syrian people and state even a temote possibility at this point? The picture is becoming less promising.

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    6. http://en.alalam.ir/news/1888242

      A little evidence of recent shia militia incursions in Mosul.

      I agree 100% that ISIS is the US, no disagreement there. Aware of the destruction of bridges as well and completely agree with your assessments. The dam is the last card in the deck. If the situation begins to deteriorate for empire, the dam surely goes away. Dams are also in play in Raqqa. The non-humans, who make up the various takfiri, daesh groups are in control of dams there too. They simply await washington's orders. Is any sort of conclusion that is beneficial for the Syrian people and state even a temote possibility at this point? The picture is becoming less promising.

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  2. http://www.dailysabah.com/economy/2016/11/21/russia-to-lift-sanctions-on-five-turkish-agricultural-products

    http://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2016/11/22/pyd-terrorists-shut-down-school-due-to-dissident-curriculum

    http://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy/2016/11/21/russia-china-give-green-light-after-ankara-highlights-sco-option

    http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/kurdistan/313060

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    1. thanks Ally

      saw some news about Turkey and Russian bran imports

      "Owing to the deficit of oranges in the Russian market, prices soared by 16 percent in September, while the biggest reason for the deficit was identified as Russia's embargo on Turkish fruit. With the removal of sanctions on the import of Turkish citrus fruits, retailers began exporting oranges at two times cheaper than Egyptian oranges."

      Turkey may start exporting eggplant, pepper, pomegranate, zucchini and lettuce to Russia.

      "The PYD said that they shut down the school because school officials refused to implement curriculum given by the PYD, despite their warnings"

      The terrorist organization had imposed curriculum which supported the organization's ideology in the city of Hasakah and across other provinces as well in northern Syria. Aligned with the PYD's ideology, the terrorist organization published school books that preach ethnic Kurdish nationalism and the propaganda of PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan, who is serving a life sentence at the İmralı Prison on an island in northwestern Turkey.

      but I thought they weren't affiliated ;)

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    2. "President Erdoğan's statement regarding the SCO is the right decision. The SCO has a bright future on economy, transportation and security matters. That's why Turkey's accession is very important," he said.

      However, Ivashov added that the country should start its departure process from NATO as they do not foresee the accession of a NATO-member to the SCO.


      ???????

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    3. EU person also said that Turkey is becoming a 'fascist' state. They are really pushing it.

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  3. I don't like much of anything I'm seeing last couple of days.
    and Turkey continues to be slammed via lira and EU LGBT garbage, tumbling economy because of s l o w growth, and the Gulen fiasco.
    so little info coming out of Iraq too

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    1. Something nasty is coming, that's for sure. The US needs something dramatic in order to change their position.

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    2. It's thanksgiving this Thursday in the US and then it's their brawl fest black friday sale

      A shopping day that's been adopted here in Canada- sickening

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    3. hey karin
      yah the past couple of days have been strange
      the obsession continues with trump
      Erdogan was slamming NATO for the requests of asylum to the coup plotters- they will be granted because NATO was involved in the coup plot

      saw the news on Turkey's lira--got to get them back under the thumb of the IMF'rs

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  4. The PKK already have manpads, they have shoot down many Turkish helicoptors.

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    1. HI Rescue; The PKK may have manpads but I haven't noticed any reports regarding the YPG having them.
      Keeping in mind we're supposed to see YPG and PKK as different entities- So, if YPG shot Turkish planes down over Syria it would be presented differently then when PKK shoots down Turkish helicopters or planes over Syrian territory

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