Sunday, April 9, 2017

Giant "Evet" Referendum Rally In Turkey

Consider this an introduction to a NO SPIN series on the upcoming Turkish referendum

"Evet" means Yes/yeah in Turkish. So this referendum is in support of the yes vote for constitutional change.

For background you may want to read the post linked in the sidebar West Unhinged Over Turkish Referendum. This a referendum for the Turkish people. As already stated..
"Speaking for myself I can no more condemn the Turk’s right to have a referendum on the future direction of their nation state then I could condemn Crimea for doing the same"
 Certain parties have a very vested interest in demonizing (to mark out or describe as evil or culpable: the technique of demonizing the enemy in the run-up to war) Turkey and the Turkish people for daring to hold this referendum! This vested interest explains the incredibly heavy handed vilification of the referendum and of the sovereign nation state, by, those that would prefer a unipolar global tyranny. I'm not one of those people, therefore, I refuse to participate in that type of activity. I prefer to leave that to the compromised media, alt and msm and the troll armies that pollute the common discourse.

If you would like to participate in rational discussion? Great!
If you wish to employ emotional rhetoric and logical fallacies... Don't bother participating.


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It's claimed in the above article their are "tens of thousands" 
Looks to me to be well over 100,000 in attendance probably even 200,000+.

You can click on the image to enlarge and see it is literally a sea of people

In my youth I attended large stadium concerts and this crowd is much larger then any I'd been in or seen! (Largest crowd I'd been in-75,000- Rich Stadium, Buffalo- General Admission madness!)

Millions gather in Istanbul to support the ‘Yes’ campaign in the upcoming referendum
Lots of women
 
Women smiling and cheering in colourful dress- And make up!
Common memes would have had me believe that women in Turkey would be shackled in the kitchen. Apparently not!


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9 comments:

  1. Hi Penny:

    What, exactly will change in Turkey if the "Yes" vote wins? All I know about the referendum so far is that it will give more constitutional powers to Erdogan.

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  2. It shifts the system from a parliamentary system to a presidential system- at the moment the Presidential office is more window dressing then anything-

    So from Canada's system to a system like the US, Russia and France- but there is more to it then that- their are 18 specific changes to the constitution being voted on in the referendum- of course you would never know it from the presentation- I will get to all that because it's really not as simple as "Erdogan will be dictator" even though that's been claimed about him for years despite the fact his office, Presidential office, is not the power- the power is in the Prime Ministers office.

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    1. Despite this Erdogan, runs Turkey with an army of advisors, who are mostly pro-US, minister have been sidelined.
      I have learned, though, that many powers have been taken from Erdogan by the army, they forced Davutoglu out, and run foreign policy. The army are also behind the new constitution along with the deep state. They see it as the best way to guard against international decentralisation demands.
      Therefore Islamists probably shouldn't be celebrating like this.

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    2. I also believe that as soon as the new system is in, Erdogan will be ousted. He knows this, that's why he hesitated for so long, AKP doesn't like it either, as they clearly see it will make them obsolete. I took until the EU crisis for them to even start campaigning for the new constitution.

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    3. Interesting Rescue-

      "I have learned, though, that many powers have been taken from Erdogan by the army, they forced Davutoglu out, and run foreign policy. The army are also behind the new constitution along with the deep state. They see it as the best way to guard against international decentralisation demands"

      Cause you know, I can see where this referendum might be beneficial to the west if they can oust Erdogan.. I don't know if this is the case, truly, but I keep in mind that the globalists always look for opportunities..

      "Despite this Erdogan, runs Turkey with an army of advisors, who are mostly pro-US, minister have been sidelined. "

      Who are these advisors that are pro US?
      Or were the pro US ministers sidelines- Your sentence is a bit confusing to me? Can you clarify?

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    4. His advisors are all pro US and NATO. Ibrahim Kalin is the closest, he was educated in the US.
      A couple of weeks ago Erdogan appointed a British-Turkish women, who then went to the US, and meet with necons amongst all McCain.

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    5. Erdogan is aggressively trying to win US favour. We saw it in his reaction to the US attack on Syria. Where he demanded more, and said Turkey will assist. He is also being blackmailed.
      He is most likely promising the US all sorts of things he will do after the referendum.
      We must understand who Erdogan is: he is a US/globalist puppet, who was rebuffed by his masters in 2013, and since then has been trying to cling to power. He now wants to seek protection under the wings of the globalists, by promising to destroy Turkey for them.
      The globalists don't want Erdogan, so he will now go. They will then try to impose a new puppet, after the system is implemented.

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  3. I had to look up what "evet" meant in Turkish. I could gleen as much from the article, but maybe you could include that someplace?

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    1. Probably a good idea- I'll add a brief explanation

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