Wednesday, August 23, 2017

Israel Wants US and Russia To Know it Can Wreck Syrian Deal

The title of this post is the original Bloomberg headline. As evidenced by the url below.

You can read the new headline for yourself- I'm not bothering with the new politically palatable version. It will be obvious to you that Israel is intending to threaten regional peace and an opportunity for war cessation in Syria, once you read the last paragraph

  •  Israel wants deal to exclude an Iranian presence in Syria
  •     Military strike an option if concerns ignored, Israelis say

"As world powers seek an endgame to Syria’s six-year war, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wants a seat at the table.

Israel says Iran and its Lebanese proxy Hezbollah are working to entrench themselves militarily in neighboring Syria, where they’re backing Syrian government troops, and it’s rattled that a recent truce deal brokered by Russia and the U.S. doesn’t block that. Israel’s fear that Tehran is establishing launchpads in Syria for future attacks against the Jewish state dominated Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s talks Wednesday with President Vladimir Putin in Russia.

The strengthening of Iran’s position in Syria represents a threat to Israel, the Middle East and the whole world, Netanyahu said after the three-hour meeting, and said he had made very clear to Putin that Israel considered this unacceptable.

Past such discussions with Putin had advanced Israel’s security interests, Netanyahu said in comments posted to YouTube, adding, “I think I can say the same thing about this one.”

Complicated alliances in the Syrian war make Netanyahu’s mission a tough one. Israel could escalate the pinpoint strikes against Iran and Hezbollah it has already carried out during the war if it isn’t satisfied that Putin and U.S. President Donald Trump are taking its security concerns into account. Moshe Ya’alon, who served as Israel’s defense minister during part of the war, said Israel may be forced to act militarily if Iran isn’t expelled.

“We had the expectation that a deal between Trump and Putin would deal with the Iranian threat on our border,” Ya’alon said in an interview in Tel Aviv. “It’s clear that if there is no solution, in the end we might have to take action ourselves.”
Antagonizing Iran

Netanyahu set off for Russia with Mossad spy chief Yossi Cohen and internal security head Meir Ben-Shabbat after an Israeli delegation came back from Washington this month with no announcement of progress on Israel’s demands. Russia, whose military intervention turned the tide in favor of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, may not support the demand for a complete Iranian withdrawal: Iran is one of the co-sponsors of Moscow’s peace efforts in Syria, and Russia is unlikely to antagonize it.

Israel -- which waged the loudest campaign against the Iran nuclear deal -- accuses the Shiite-led Islamic Republic of building military bases in Syria and carving out a land corridor to transfer arms and fighters from Tehran to Beirut. It also says Iran is building precise-munition factories in Lebanon, Hezbollah’s base.

“There should be no arrangement that allows Iran and its proxies to base themselves militarily in Syria,” said Chagai Tzuriel, director-general of Israel’s Intelligence Ministry. “An Iranian military presence in Syria will be a constant source of friction and tension not only with Israel, but with the Sunni majority in Syria, with the Sunni countries in the region, and with Sunni minorities outside the region.”

Compromise Seen

Russia probably will try to find some kind of compromise, analysts said.

“The dominant view is that Iran is still a partner in Syria and now is not the time to sow tensions,” said Alexander Shumilin, head of the Middle East Conflict Analysis Center at the government-run Institute for U.S. and Canada in Moscow. What it might do is “let Iran strengthen its positions in western Syria,” further from Israel, he said.

Zvi Magen, a former Israeli ambassador to Moscow and now a research fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv, expects Netanyahu and Putin “will try to find a solution in which the Iranians can stay in Syria under Russian control,” with no military units and no military bases. 
Longtime Enmity

Israel never accepted Iran’s assertion that its nuclear program -- temporarily curbed under the nuclear pact -- has no military component. It also has clashed over the decades with Hezbollah, which has significantly expanded its military arsenal since its last war with Israel 11 years ago.

While Israel has largely stayed out of the Syrian fighting, Netanyahu recently said the Israeli military struck Hezbollah in Syria dozens of times. Ya’alon hinted Israel also has targeted Iranian operatives, noting that when Iran tried to orchestrate terrorist attacks in the Israeli-held Golan Heights, “all those operatives are no longer alive.”

Russia won’t brush off Israeli concerns because it wants to prevent a direct Israeli-Iranian confrontation that would deepen the region’s chaos, said Yossi Mekelberg, a senior consulting research fellow at the Chatham House research center in London.

“Unlike with the nuclear project, Israel actually has the capability to kill Iranian operatives in both Syria and Lebanon with quite some ease,” Mekelberg said. “The fear then becomes that both sides miscalculate to the point of direct confrontation between Iran and Israel. This is a very delicate, explosive situation.”
 Israel has been killing people in Syria, Lebanon and Iran for quite some time............


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  1. Hi,
    Yes, my mother missed me so much she actually came out to visit me for a few days!
    Anyway, I agree with what you wrote in the post about Europe being destroyed. There are so many homeless people in Manchester, it is unbelievable! And they are all white, English people! No one is doing anything to help these people.
    Do you have anymore info on this topic about the culture and history of Europe being destroyed that I could read about?
    Hope you are ok too :)

    1. Hey Ally:
      Moms are like that :)

      It's like that in Canada too!
      Quebec has seen 7,000 Haitians pour across the border illegally-
      Our dear government is setting up camps for them, heated tents, food etc
      They built and overflow camp in Cornwall, Ontario as well

      But Canadians born here can rot in hell for all the government does for them-

      We've had our own rough patch lately and I tell you a life time of tax payments and working gets you a big fat nothing if you've actually saved.

      So it is absolutely not a surprise to know that white English people are homeless...

      When a culture is lost it hurts us all
      Syria's culture and history being destroyed is just as bad as Germany's culture and history being destroyed- Or Italy's culture and history
      It's all a loss to human kind

    2. Yes, I agree. But it really makes me sad to see this suffering. And in the age of political correctness, it's considered 'racist' to point this out. The culture of England has and is being destroyed, especially in Manchester. We had a great music scene one time (Joy Dvision, The Smiths, etc) but all of that is being swept away with immigration and globalism.

    3. I would say, try looking at the country with its anthem in your mind.

      Just for the heck of it, Compare the Anthems of Turkey and United Kingdom.

      Turkish anthem - English translation

    4. I can only say, WOW, in regard to Turkey's national anthem!
      Very stirring.
      The UK's is of course, "god save the queen"
      An entirely different significance and meaning- not about the nation, but all about saving the queen... not inspirational at all

    5. Ally- I understand what your saying, because, in this insanity that passes itself off as our reality it's ok to hate on white people- who by and large have gone about living their lives,- just like everyone else. Reverse racism is still racism

      I was joking with hubby wondering when we were going to get our white privilege? (In my case slightly olive tone whiteness)

      Contrary to the irrational spin these days there is no privilege inherent in whiteness- you're as much a slave as everyone else- and now it's even ok to dump on you, attack you and blame you for the shortcomings of others

      white people = scapegoat

    6. How silly my opinion may be. Besides the inspirational part. I do think that anthems are somewhat presenting us with the mindset of that country and its people.

    7. " do think that anthems are somewhat presenting us with the mindset of that country and its people"

      I agree Kaz, it's not silly, because the anthem represents the nation- no wonder Canada wants to rewrite ours and make it more OWO PC

    8. Check this out, Penny and Kaz:
      What do you think of the rise of atheism in the world today? Do you think it is self-destructing?

    9. Before I watch this video Ally, I will tell you, my opinion regarding this pushing of Atheism is more of the separation of man from 'creation'

      It will either self destruct or it will destroy humanity

    10. I agree with you, Penny. I myself don't have a religion and grew up believing all the Atheist nonsense that was fed to me by my school and peers but after thinking and coming to my senses, I am a believer of God! Being a university student, I am experiencing first-hand indoctrination from my university professors and uni societies about how religion is the cause of all the world's problems, that there is no proof of God's existence and that why would God allow all this evil on the planet, bla bla bla...they are even discussing what a world without men would be like!
      The technocrats want to kill us all and the ignorant don't even realise it!
      But do you have anymore info about the separation of man from 'creation'?

    11. I have been watching that link over an hour, and the only thought which came to my mind was. So.... All these things they keep mentioning, Haven't they heared about larry grathwohl or Yuri Bezmenov. Honestly...

      About the rise of atheism. I can go on the multiple effects it might have around the spectrum, but I will keep it short, but with deep meaning, for example, with god comes religion.

      1) The Old gods needs to make room for the new gods born within.

      2) Atheism is the best idea to either keep the population confused or make them a tool.(I actually wanted to use slave, but slaves are humans too)

  2. The Zios are a lot of self-important clowns. They are on the way out, and they know it. Vive la Palestine !

  3. "The Zios are a lot of self-important clowns"

    That they are!


    1. ty wallflower!

      Erdogan has been saying this for years that I know of.

  5. “There should be no arrangement that allows Iran and its proxies to base themselves militarily in Syria"

    And how did that come about? It started with the Israeli masterminded 9/11 False Flag, which gave US neoCONs the excuse they wanted to wage endless wars against Israel's existential enemies, which is pretty much anyone or any state that doesn't bow down to Israeli Imperialism or worship the most sacred Holocau$t™.

    Now we're facing either another Israeli False Flag against the West, on the par of 9/11, which will be blamed by the MSM on Iranians or Syrians 24/7, until our ears bleed and the Zio-occcupied quisling Congress will gladly fulfill their Masters wish and 'Shock and Awe' Iran or we'll see a massive Israeli bombing of Syria.

    Our Overlord will not be denied.

    1. Hey Greg:

      see the follow up post to this- Israel was reassured.

      Apparently Trump doesn't use "shock and awe"
      He uses the term "fire and fury"
      Shock and Awe being passe- a new jingo is necessary so "fire and fury" it is