Monday, August 21, 2017

US Navy Suspends Operations Globally- USS John S McCain 10 Sailors Dead

Gaping Hole in USS John S McCain- 10 Sailors Lost
Updating : USS John S. McCain Collides with Merchant Vessel- 10 Sailors Missing

NYT's
WASHINGTON — United States Navy ships worldwide will suspend operations for a day or two this week to examine basic seamanship and teamwork following the second collision of a Navy destroyer and larger commercial ship in two months, the top naval officer said Monday.

The officer, Adm. John Richardson, the chief of naval operations, said he had ordered two major actions after the collision between the destroyer John S. McCain and an oil tanker early Monday off the coast of Singapore that left 10 sailors missing and five injured.

First, Admiral Richardson said he had ordered an “operational pause” for Navy fleet commanders to review within the week teamwork, safety, seamanship and other “fundamentals.” During that time, commanders will suspend ship operations for a day or two. Second, the admiral said he had ordered a broader, monthslong review to examine the specific situation in the western Pacific, where the Navy has suffered four major ship accidents since February.

“That gives great cause for concern that there’s something out there that we’re not getting at,” Admiral Richardson told reporters at the Pentagon.

At 5:24 a.m. local time, before dawn broke, the destroyer collided with the Alnic MC, a 600-foot vessel that transports oil and chemicals, the Navy said. The destroyer was damaged near the rear on its port, or left-hand, side.

More than half a day after the crash, 10 sailors on the ship remained unaccounted for. Five others were injured, none with life-threatening conditions, a Navy official said. Ships with the Singaporean and Malaysian navies and helicopters from the assault ship America were rushing to search for survivors.

Families of the ship’s crew members waited through the night in the United States, hoping for news of their loved ones.

The collision occurred in one of the world’s busiest shipping lanes, a narrow waterway of strategic significance connecting the Indian Ocean with the South China Sea, where Beijing has been challenging American naval dominance. It immediately raised questions about the training and safety record of Navy ships, coming just two months after another Navy destroyer, the Fitzgerald, collided with a freighter off Japan, killing seven American sailors.

site of collision in the Strait of Malacca

“Clearly this is an annus horribilis for the U.S. Navy,” said Euan Graham, the director of the International Security Program at the Lowy Institute in Sydney, Australia.

Kirk Patterson, a former dean of the Japan campus of Temple University who has crossed the Pacific in a sailboat and circumnavigated Japan, said the collision was “really hard to understand with all the technology that’s out there in the world on a boat, especially a naval destroyer that’s supposed to be the best in the world.”
For a destroyer to be hit by an oil tanker would be “like an F1 sports car and a garbage truck,” he said. “Which one is going to be able to avoid the collision? An F1 racing car equipped with state-of-the-art missiles.”
A destroyer going through a difficult a passage like the Strait of Malacca would typically have half a dozen sailors, including two officers, on the bridge watching for the lights of other ships, (that didn't happen) said retired Navy Capt. Bernard D. Cole, an adjunct professor at Georgetown University and professor emeritus at the National War College.

In such clogged traffic, it would also be common for the commanding officer or the executive officer, the two most senior officers on board, to be on the bridge,(doubtful they were) he said. There would also be a navigator and other enlisted men in the combat information center scanning radar.
The oil and chemical tanker Alnic MC after the collision on Monday in waters east of the Strait of Malacca.
I don’t think this ship was carrying much of anything from it's appearance. And the media isn't mentioning the load weight either

Coming hot on the heels of USS Fitzgerald leadership being 'kicked to the curb'

USS Fitzgerald Commanding Officers (Guilty) Relieved of Duties

Another F1 race car that hit a garbage can!
There are still other posts on the Fitzgerald
 We've been talking electronic warfare in the previous post comments- It's possible, but the human factor is a huge problem. If electronic warfare is occurring then eyes and hands on deck are utterly necessary

This over reliance on technology is detrimental to us all. I also suspect arrogance is a huge factor. Over inflated entitlement and ego on the part of US/Britannia - ruling the seas
Also- The US Navy negligence/carelessness makes then both a nuisance and a danger on the seas.
Think about if this ship had been carrying oil or chemicals? Ecological disaster.

12 comments:

  1. Hi Penny:

    One theory for what is causing the collisions is a "Khabiny-style" disruption of the radar... or overpowering of the electronics of the ships...like what happened to the "Donald Cook" in the Black Sea a couple of years ago. Do you think this might be a possibility?

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  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHojZOElBo8

    Here is a video about the Russan "Khibiny" technology.

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  3. Seems to be an unlucky day for the US Military

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/08/21/532480/Turkey-Incirlik-US-drone-crash-NATO-PKK

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  4. Hey GC

    Yah, I would imagine electronic warfare is a possibility.
    I can't prove it. But it seems highly likely this type of technology is available.

    But then there is incompetence to consider- poorly constructed products- bad systems, crappy materials used, with the ease of profit making -guaranteed within the military industrial complex- corners could easily be cut every where--- so many possibilities for all these accidents


    Drone crashing too?

    I'm going to watch the video, thanks for leaving the link GC!

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  5. Hi Penny:

    It wasn't till after this latest collision of a US destroyer that I thought back to the collision involving the USS Fitzgerald and the Philippine Cargo Ship. That collision was very weird with it looking from the tracking map that the USS Fitzgerald almost sought out the collision. The entire fiasco would make sense...if one factors in the possibility that the US ship was disabled in terms of radar and electronic sensing equipment...and the sailors didn't know it (or couldn't stop it) at the time.

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    1. wrt the Fitzgerald I am pretty sure there was no attempt made what so ever to prevent the incident..

      the tracking map made public didn't include the position of the fitzgerald at all- so it was useless

      I haven't read as much on the McCain incident, but, if the technology is being affected by electronic warfare the all hands on deck are vital and failing
      which is why the US Navy has suspended operations for a couple of days etc.,

      they need to review the redundancies (fail safes) that should be there and are not.

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  6. Russian Armed Forces General Staff sees Deir ez-Zor liberation in Syria as key objective

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    1. I agree Deir ez Zor is key and am working on a post to address that, for today, hopefully

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    2. Russian spy ship collides with freighter, sinks in Black Sea

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    3. yah, I see that news from April

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russian-navy-intelligence-ship-sinks-after-collision-with-freighter-off-turkish-coast/2017/04/27/5854b062-2b45-11e7-be51-b3fc6ff7faee_story.html

      collided in the fog-

      "A Russian naval intelligence ship sank Thursday after colliding with a merchant freighter in foggy conditions"

      The fog is obvious in the image and the entire crew was rescued

      "At the time of the accident, the Bosporus was closed because of poor visibility, the Reuters news agency reported, citing the shipping agency GAC."

      So here, unlike Fitzgerald and McCain we have a weather issue and a possible electronic issue (?)



      https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_480w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/04/27/Foreign/Images/05931653.jpg?uuid=LVgfLCt_Eee-UbP8b_f67g

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  7. And now for something completely different
    Alain Soral and Dieudonné are officially invited by North Korea to participate to the 69th anniversary of the foundation of the nation september the 9th to celebrate peace.

    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Alain-Soral-et-Dieudonne-officiellement-invites-en-Coree-du-Nord-pour-la-fete-nationale-47270.html

    It's quite an interesting development. What I have noticed is how deeply the propaganda on NK is deeply ingrained in the western population. There is really no-one I know of who sees through the bullshit that is excreted day-in day-out by the media. It is particularly discouraging as it is quite easy in fact to debunk most of the unfounded claims made about that country (killing ministers with anti-aircraft guns anyone?).

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    1. thanks gallier2
      I'll have a read later

      wanted to let you know I've been doing a bit more reading on the peer review issue and it does seem other persons have pointed out a myriad of problems with the system- yet it's so entrenched based on nothing more then 'appeal to authority' that there is literally no advantage to be had,by any one scientist or institution or agenda that would encourage this system to be overhauled.

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