Wednesday, December 13, 2017

Was the Missing Argentinian Sub Being “ Chased By British Helicopter” Before it Disappeared?

 aha.....The plot thickens, as is commonly said!

The claim is being made by the sister of one of the deceased sailors. She is reporting that her brother (missing & deceased)  had sent her a message  that a British Military Helicopter was pursuing the sub. She spoke to an Argentinian news outlet- The report was picked up by the MirrorUK.
She is passing her brother's message on to investigators.
The sister of one of the missing sailors has revealed she had received a "strange" WhatsApp message from her brother but the Royal Navy has dismissed the claims.

The Argentine submarine that disappeared with 44 crew members on board was being "chased by a British helicopter" before it vanished, it has been claimed.

Jesica Medina, the grief-stricken sister of missing sailor Roberto Daniel Medina, revealed she had received a "strange" message from her brother days before the vessel's last known communication.
In a WhatsApp message he told her that the ARA San Juan had travelled close to the Falkland Islands, and claimed that a British helicopter was trying to track them.
Second sub-officer Roberto told her they were now heading for home, writing: "On Monday an English helicopter was looking for us, and yesterday the Chileans, there has been a lot going on."

A Royal Navy spokesman has dismissed the woman's claims as "untrue".
Jesica told Argentina's La Gaceta newspaper that "many" other families of other missing crew members also received reports from their loved ones that they had been fleeing a British helicopter.
Headline from La Gaceta:" Sin rastros del ARA San Juan: uno de los submarinistas había advertido que los perseguía un helicóptero británico"

She said: "It was a strange message in which he told us a British helicopter and a Chilean ship had been chasing them.

"I don't know why he said it. but unfortunately we didn't continue with that conversation, we started talking about other things, the kids, the family, and it stayed like that. It was his last message."
Jesica said the sub sailed close to the Falkands - which Argentina calls Malvinas - on November 3, alerting the British Navy which began searching for the vessel.

She added: "I don't know how close they got to the Malvinas, and I don't know what the political situation is like. That's what he told us and that is what we were left with."

A Royal Navy spokesman said: “This story is completely untrue.”
Britain doesn't have any anti-submarine helicopters based in the Falklands, they added.
I flat out do not believe the British claim. It's absurd to believe they have no anti submarine helicopters at, near or based in the Falklands. Perhaps they keep them on one or more of their naval ships. But it makes absolutely zero sense to me that the Royal Navy has no anti submarine helicopters at their disposal on the Falklands.

The Falkland Islands/Malvinas
 The Falkland Islands (/ˈfɔːlklənd/; Spanish: Islas Malvinas, pronounced [ˈislas malˈβinas]) is an archipelago in the South Atlantic Ocean on the Patagonian Shelf. The principal islands are about 300 miles (483 kilometres) east of South America's southern Patagonian coast, at a latitude of about 52°S. The archipelago, with an area of 4,700 square miles (12,000 square kilometres), comprises East Falkland, West Falkland and 776 smaller islands

 The British are sitting out there in the South Atlantic ocean. On a grouping of islands. Surrounded by waters that would obviously be occupied by ships and subs belonging to other nations and they have no means to keep an eye on the traffic?

Jesica, from Salta, said she didn't show the message to the Argentinian authorities after the submarine went missing on November 15 because she "didn't feel able".

But she said she is making the message public now so that it can be included in a federal investigation into the disappearance headed by federal judge Marta Yanez.

She added: "I think we're not the only family who has heard something like this, I think there are many others, Judge Yanez will have to investigate."

"We all feel they are hiding things from us. The [Argentine] Navy has practically tortured us with all this situation they have made us live."
 From earlier today- real world climate systems in action-

How An Arctic Current Could Cool the Climate in Europe

Certainly not as emotionally manipulative as an emaciated polar bear in the Arctic, in the Summer time. When the sun shines darn near all the time. Noticed today the photographers of that likely sick or aged bear are walking away from their presentation....


  1. HPrice ( 13, 2017 at 9:59 PM

    Some thoughts:

    I don't want to be too cynical but can anyone get a text message to someone on a submarine, anyway?

    (My tentacles started rising as soon as the Mirror newspaper was mentioned, as well).

    Maybe I'm getting too cynical in my old age, and anything is possible ... but ... getting a text from a submariner doesn't feel right to me. Security is super tight on those things. Would they let their crew just willy-nilly text whoever they like? Plus can a signal actually leave or enter a sub? I thought they had high tech gear to talk to people on those things (see HAARP type devices) because it is so hard to communicate with the crew on them ... so ... ???

    (my point being this is a bit similar to those cell phone calls from planes on 9/11 which were impossible at that time ...)


    2. Depends on the state of the ship. At the surface, cruise immersion, combat immersion etc. There's no simple yes or no answer here.

    3. HPrice anon gallier2: I wondered about that too- Yet, it seems likely if they were at or near the surface it could be possible, but, doubtful at deep depths (IMO, only).

      The Mirror picked up the Argentinian news report, which is also linked in the post.

      I wouldn't compare this to 911 and the phone calls because 16 years have passed... surely the tech is improved.

      I've been keeping an eye on this incident- for the fact that Argentina is so interesting for so many reasons

    4. Could he and others have been on land at the time the message was sent? That's another possibility.

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    2. thanks anon- I've noticed Argentina's had some goings on as of late- including an arrest warrant for it's former leader because she allegedly "covered up for Iran, in the Jewish centre bombing"