Wednesday, January 3, 2018

(Anti) Social Media/Facebook Ripping Apart The Fabric of Society

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 A former Facebook executive criticized the company he once worked for and social media as a whole, saying it is "ripping apart the social fabric" in societies around the world, CBS San Francisco reports. Chamath Palihapitiya, who previously served as Facebook's vice president for user growth, expressed "tremendous guilt" and urged people to take a "hard break" from social media during a talk at the Stanford Graduate School of Business.
"I think we have created tools that are ripping apart the social fabric of how society works," said Palihapitiya, who left the social media giant in 2011 and now heads The Social+Capital Partnership, a venture capital fund.
"No civil discourse, no cooperation; misinformation, mistruth," he went on to say.
Palihapitiya said the problem is not just isolated to Russia-backed ads and the 2016 presidential election, which led officials from Facebook, Twitter and Google to answer questions in Congress. The former Facebook executive cited an incident in India where innocent people were lynched after hoax messages about kidnappings were shared on WhatsApp.

"I just don't use these tools anymore, I haven't for years. It's created with a huge tension with my friends, it's created a huge tension in my social circles," Palihapitiya said. "If you look at my Facebook feed, I probably posted two times in the last seven years."
Palihapitiya also said that his children "aren't allowed to use this s**t."
Last month, former Facebook president Sean Parker criticized the social networking giant, saying it is "exploiting a vulnerability in human society."
"It literally changes your relationship with society, with each other. It probably interferes with productivity in weird ways. God only knows what it's doing to our children's brains," Parker told the news site Axios.
I'll bet some people know, never mind God only knows what it's doing to our children's brains!

Others in Silicon Valley have also expressed concern about the addictive nature of social media and mobile apps. Former Google engineer Tristan Harris told "60 Minutes" earlier this year that companies have a "whole playbook of techniques" to keep people glued to their apps as long as possible.

CBS News' Carter Evans reports that a Pew/Journal of Youth Studies show 92 percent of teen go online daily and 1 in 5 young people regularly wake up in the night to send or check messages on social media.

Jim Steyer -- founder of Common Sense Media -- also spoke out about social media.

"We're not suggesting the leaders of tech companies are evil," Steyer told CBS News. "But they in many case have ignored the consequences of some of the downsides of the innovations they brought to our society."
My rant!

Facebook is, in my opinion, LARGELY, but not entirely, for improperly socialized persons.
(Realizing a great many persons use facebook to promote their business etc., I'm not talking about them)  Additionally it seems sensible and there is research that supports, what seems obvious anyway,  the  more time one spends on Facebook the more anti social one becomes.
  Sadly, I'm aware of  far to  many people who do nothing but make trouble with others. For others. On facebook. I had thought long and hard about why that might be?
I stumbled across one explanation while reading the book “How the Body Knows Its Mind” 

 (Worth reading, in my opinion)

 The author, Sian Beilock,  touches on The Milgram Experiments, which did more then offer insights into the affect of authority on our behaviour- Milgram's experiments offered insight into  how we might or might not act depending on our proximity, actual physical proximity to our fellow man.  And have linked to the part of the book the author raises this important issue in.

“ A physical closeness seems to beget a psychological connection”

Simply put, it’s much more difficult to be an obnoxious, brazen, shameless idiot when someone is sitting or standing right in front of you. Facebook encourages very bad behaviour because it physically separates you from other humans.  Making it easier for the poorly socialized/anti social media user to “talk shit", "stir the pot" and generally be obnoxious- Definitely not a plus for society in general. Therefore anti social media has a huge potential for encouraging the worst kind of behaviour humans can muster. This has been known for decades. It was made clear in the Milgram experiments. Surely Facebook’s creators would have been all too aware of this human foible (flaw or shortcoming in behaviour)



Hence the comments from those formerly associated with Facebook and other forms of social media

Related: Smart Phone Dystopia: “Our Minds Can Be Hijacked”

16 comments:

  1. Hi Penny...and a Happy New Year....I know people who have, according to them, several thousand facebook "friends" but who in actual fact have not contacted their real friends or relatives in several years.

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    1. Happy New Year to you and yours also GC!

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  2. Yeah Pen, it is disturbing to say the least. I found the more "friends" I had, the more cautious I had to be. It was as if every friend could be controlled opposition. And the consequences of that were, more spies keeping tabs on me. ugh! Ultimately I "unfriended" everyone. Bizarre.

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    1. Maybe it was better to just unfriend the people you don't know in the real world anyway?
      and Happy New Year Peter!

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  3. Sorry, I interpret the rant of Chamath Palihapitiya a little bit differently than you. It's shear panik by the PTB that they are losing the control on the social narration. That's why he insists so much on fake news (misinformation, mistruth, etc.)
    When he says "It literally changes your relationship with society" it means that somehow your perception of what society is is changed, i.e. he means "the peons do not believe the shit we spread anymore".
    He goes also as far as making very dubious accusations as whatsapp and facebook are very different things, with very different use cases. Granted, there is some overlap there, but the overlapping use cases are not the things his FB rant entails.
    When he says "It's created with a huge tension with my friends" it can also mean that FB allowed everybody to see that he's an ass.
    The virtue and in the same time the danger of FB is, that it allows to see through the lies of ones social circle.
    FB tends to put people echo chamber bubbles, but these are
    nonetheless quite permeable and easily overcome.
    As for the issues with the young ones, I see it also a little bit less critical and it follows with what I think about his rant: the youth hanging online are not being programmed by TV during that time. It is part of the transformation from a hierarchical information data flow to a peer to peer system.

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    1. The virtue and in the same time the danger of FB is, that it allows to see through the lies of ones social circle.
      Precision: the danger is of course that it is reciprocal, i.e. your reveal about yourself as much as you discover about your peers.

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    2. Hey gallier2- I ignored his comment on fake news etc., because it wasn't entirely relevant to what was being claimed, by himself and others, and it didn't correlate with other posts I've had here, STILL, you make a good point about it altering societal relationships, perhaps for the better, but then I think of social media usage in all the destabilization campaigns undertaken globally.. Not good for the nations being destroyed.
      In that case I can't see the better.
      MY other issue with social media which is visited in the book I'm reading is the lack of proximity human to human which sees an inability to conduct social communication, especially non verbal.

      example?
      http://time.com/5086172/sick-cold-facial-cues/

      Facial cues informing of an individual being ill.
      Can those raised on social media tell vs those that haven't- It would be an important judgement?
      And there are tons of non verbal body language cue that are not being communicated, observed, learned, given when social media is the dominating for of communication. What do you think?

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    3. MY other issue with social media which is visited in the book I'm reading is the lack of proximity human to human which sees an inability to conduct social communication, especially non verbal.

      The question here is if it is a phenomenon induced by social media or if it wasn't already so before. Meaning, is SM the cause of it or only a correlation to something already happenning. I see the effects of family explosion as more important. Single children, i.e. children without siblings, is imho a much more problematic in losing how to interact with others or even acquiring skills than SM. These isolated, little princes and princesses with no contact with reality is what generates these often maligned millenials. A good part of them grew up before facebook and youtube, yet they are often as inept as the more connected ones (and I know also millenials who are very well rounded and competent and quite some of them are FB users or gamers).

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    4. Hey Gallier!:

      " Meaning, is SM the cause of it or only a correlation to something already happenning."

      I did say that in my post, that yes, it's in my opinion a correlation to what is already occurring.

      Facebook is, in my opinion, LARGELY, but not entirely, for improperly socialized persons.

      I don't think that millenials are the only problem makers on facebook- Just that improperly socialized persons are the problem- The single child/millenial factor may be exacerbated by facebook- but they aren't alone in trouble making.

      I like the concept you put forth previous comment regarding facebook being an echo chamber FB tends to put people echo chamber bubbles...



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  4. Welcome to my world, Penny... I have been attacking Facebook and other fraud "social media" platforms for YEARS now, and have always advised everyone to stay away from those mind destroying pieces of crap...

    I want to "borrow" your article, for it only backs up everything that I have been saying for years, and will again emphasize my own stance on these bullshit "social media" platforms!

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  5. Hi Penny: You said: "Facebook encourages very bad behaviour because it physically separates you from other humans. Making it easier for the poorly socialized/anti social media user to “talk shit", "stir the pot" and generally be obnoxious"...

    I fully agree. You've also given me insight into why a dear cousin of mine only barely communicates now - though he used to pen very long letters to me about all his thoughts and ideas - yet he says he says still loves me lots. He's on Facebook all the time now, and he says it's my fault because I once encouraged him to get online. I guess it is. ;-]

    This can hold true for simple email as well. My daughter once told me that some people have "email Kahunas", and I find that's true of one or two of my male relatives, as well as a long-time male friend, who are much more active game players by email than they have ever been to my face. It's like split personalities.

    Funny, in my experience it's only males. Are some women like that as well?

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    1. I think women are like that as well Yayac

      And I like the split personality analogy or maybe more fitting 'two faces' the in person face and the social media face

      Funny about your cousin though? It's your fault that he spends all his time on facebook?

      Why you must be there every day all hours of the day forcing his hand to type, post or whatever on facebook?? You tyrant! ;)

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  6. Yeah, sounds bad in print, doesn't it, but he is a joker, so I took it at that. But women too, eh? That's too bad. Don't mothers any longer teach their kids that there's "inside words and outside words"? - which reminds me of a hilarious Frank Caliendo impression of George W. Bush:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK1ekhovFeU
    (Sometimes a person just needs a good laff;-)

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    1. hey yayac- agree on the laugh part
      I've got a cold and it's so dam cold- we're still under that extreme cold warning- btw- there's an ocean going vessel frozen into a lock on the St Lawrence Seaway (american side)- more your way then mine- their bringing in ice melting equipment etc
      It's holding up 3 or 4 other ships..crazeee..

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    2. Not surprised you've got sick, Penny. You work awfully hard on this site, and you probably get so engrossed that you get chilled without even realizing it. I no longer have that kind of stamina and only write when I feel up for it. Take good care of yourself!

      Yeah, there's an extreme weather warning for where I am, too, but it's only for tonight. Tomorrow it's supposed to go up to -6C and even higher for the rest of the week. The weather does what I want it to do, when I want it to;-) I always, almost always, go grocery shopping on Sunday afternoon, and looks like tomorrow I can do just that, though the sidewalks are still not cleared and I may have to walk on the road in some places.

      By the way, I found that book you recommended (How the Body Knows Its Mind) at my local library, and reserved it. Looking forward to reading it. Thanks for the suggestion.

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