Friday, March 9, 2018

About that Alleged Poisoning of Sergei Skripal

As of this moment, the one truism I can take away from the entire media presentation is that Britain is going for hysteria inducing theatrics- Which is, I think, the desired state they’re attempting to whip the populace into. The location of this incident has changed from the poisoning, alleged, occurring in a restaurant or at a mall to now possibly having taken place at this man’s home.

Suddenly the graves of his previously deceased wife and son may be exhumed?
After being taped off and then having a tent set up around them?
What's the relevance? Are police considering that Sergei or his daughter poisoned the wife/mother and son/brother?

Why are Hazmat wearing individuals making public appearances nearly a week later as they remove a bench and secure objects in the area.

CBC
“The investigation in Salisbury continues today (March 9/2018) with 180 chemical-warfare-trained members of the British military assisting police in removing objects, like the park bench, (slumped Sergei and daughter were found on bench March 03/2018) and securing vehicles that the Skripals came in contact with on Sunday.”
Hazmat suit wearing persons
“Sergei Skripal, a 66-year-old ex-colonel with Russian military intelligence, was discovered slumped over and unresponsive on a bench outside of a shopping mall in Salisbury, England, last Sunday, alongside his unconscious 33-year-old daughter, Yulia.

But now police have switched their focus to Skripal's house nearby, cordoning off the property and erecting forensic tents in his garden, trying to establish if the nerve agent was delivered at home — perhaps inadvertently”

 “Perhaps inadvertently “ So did Sergei Skripal poison himself? Did his daughter poison him unintentionally? I don’t know? Could someone who attended the house have poisoned them?

“Almost two dozen first responders and medical staff came in contact with Skripal and his daughter in the minutes after they fell violently ill. But only one, Det.-Sgt. Nick Bailey, also became sick from the deadly toxin. And Bailey was the first policeman to visit Skripal's home.”

Let me get this straight? Almost two dozen first responders and medical staff come in contact with Skripal and his daughter and not a one of them become ill

In fact, the only person to become sick from what ever this is was the first policeman to visit Skripal’s home. When did the policeman visit the home? Could he have been the assassin? 
I can’t see why not at this point in time?

Former London police chief Ian Blair told BBC radio that the policeman's illness is an important "clue." And the Times newspaper reports that investigators are now examining whether Yulia, who was visiting from Moscow, might have unknowingly brought the nerve agent along, perhaps hidden in some food or drink, or maybe a gift.
The media keeps claiming that Sergei was targeted with a deadly toxin but..

“Investigators said they had identified the specific agent, but were not disclosing that information. “

 If no information regarding what may or may not have been used has been disclosed then all claims of this being a nerve agent or whatever really boils down to wild speculation.

Complex and dangerous, nerve agents are rarely used for assassinations.

Probably because one would end up deathly ill/dead before being able to, or while, administering the nerve agent against the intended target? 
Which takes us back to the one lone police officer who was sickened at the home of Sergei- Hmmmmmm??????


UPDATE March 10/2018:

Precedent for police involvement in state sponsored assassination, excerpted.

Also there is precedence in police being involved in this type of activity..

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/russian-spy-poisoned-salisbury-nick-bailey-skripal-nerve-agent

" In 1989, the anti-apartheid activist Frank Chikane was poisoned by South African agents who sprayed his underwear with a nerve agent while he was travelling through an airport. Chikane survived and the former South African police minister and his police chief were both convicted of the attempted murder"

And hattip anonymous commenter!
By strange coincidence, the UK Governments top secret chemicical/biological weapons facility is just 7 miles from Salisbury town centre where the incident occurred.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porton_Down

From earlier:


21 comments:

  1. Just to jolt your memory about some 'suspicious' deaths on British territory of people related to some 'secret beans' they might have been about to spill around. David Kelly? Berezovsky? Expedited by the 'hidden hands' of a historical and honorable Secret Intelligence Service?
    T. E. Lawrence 'of Arabia'?
    A good 'conspiracy theory' would just spice the story.

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    1. I thought of the Berezovsky incident
      He connected to the guy - name escaping me at the moment who was alleged to have been poisoned by polonium- and David Kelly? I'd forgotten about him entirely...

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  2. :/ ?? So what is your point, that the entire ordeal smells fishy.

    Like when were such things not vague

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    1. "Like when were such things not vague"

      True enough, but, not according to the British and 5 eyes media- They already have the hand of Putin all over this- which is absurd.

      My point is-- Whatever is the truth, what's being presented is not it.

      The stories being played up for extreme dramatics.
      For mass manipulation purposes

      And IMO either the father, daughter or police officer, most likely, had what ever toxin caused this in their possession.

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    2. Yeah, but even if it was Putin behind it. Britain couldn't do anything. In the Litvinenko case, it was proven the order was from Putin. And it was carried out on British soil, were there any repercussions ??. Not that I remember.

      Now according to a news report from TRT World. It also seems that quite alot of investment in the UK is from Russian oligarchs, and can UK afford to lose that money, ....... Not that I think.

      At this point, Putin has free reign. alt media thinks he is a great guy fighting against the "EVIL", Right wing parties all over seems to be in favor of Putin.

      Russia is weak in military power, but great in using deception to make it look like it is strong and making the public think they are underdogs in the current situation of things. And that the entire world is out there to get them.

      USSR may changed its name and governing system. But the same people who ran USSR are still running Russia. And one just have to look trough all the things USSR did.

      Like some economist once said. When your product is no good anymore, a solution would be to change the name.

      I guess 25 years is a good number to Forgive and Forget, even though the person/organisation you are forgiving never changed.

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    3. I see Theresa May is all set to announce Russian sanctions this Monday...

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/03/09/theresa-may-announce-monday-sanctions-will-take-against-russia/

      "Theresa May is expected to announce sanctions against Russia as soon as Monday..."

      I'm of the opinion that Britian wanted the sanctions anyway- hence the alleged poisoning serves as a perfect pretext for the desired actions.

      Additionally, I see a commenter below has mentioned a conveniently located bio/chem facility not so far away

      Also there is precedence in police being involved in this type of activity..

      I'll add this to the post above later:

      http://www.wired.co.uk/article/russian-spy-poisoned-salisbury-nick-bailey-skripal-nerve-agent

      " In 1989, the anti-apartheid activist Frank Chikane was poisoned by South African agents who sprayed his underwear with a nerve agent while he was travelling through an airport. Chikane survived and the former South African police minister and his police chief were both convicted of the attempted murder"

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    4. Well, lets see if they will go trough with it on monday

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  3. By strange coincidence, the UK Governments top secret chemicical/biological weapons facility is just 7 miles from Salisbury town centre where the incident occurred.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porton_Down

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    1. interesting, I will add that to the post

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  4. Could just as easily be completely staged. If the only information we're getting is from the MSM then they can make-up anything they NEED -- fiction writing's greatest asset. I suspect many reported incidents (and technologies *hint-hint*) are complete claptrap. Enjoy the matrix.

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    1. could just as easily be staged! Entirely possible.

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  5. In the UK the MSM is pushing a considerable amount of hysteria on this before any actual/factual investigation.

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    1. Hi Abdullah!

      "In the UK the MSM is pushing a considerable amount of hysteria on this before any actual/factual investigation."

      One can't miss it, really. It's over the top!

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  6. Theres obviously a big lie in this whole story - what the real story is just could be anything!!

    They've gone a bit diplomatic incident mad here Id say! Especially with Boris threatening retaliation!!

    I think those Haz Mat suits look like smiley face - are they having a laugh at our expense?

    Hes more than likely a triple agent - he's got something they want, otherwise, why clear out his house, car and now the family graves?? What are they looking for??

    Marie
    ;-)

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    1. Hey Marie

      Strange days indeed, is all that comes to mind
      Hope you are well?

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  7. New possibilities at
    http://theduran.com/the-poisoning-of-sergei-skripal-reads-right-to-hillary-clinton-and-the-dnc/
    A few highlights:
    "Skripal’s daughter Yulia lives in Russia… why would Russia wait until she went to the UK to poison her?"
    "Who had the most to gain from his assassination*?"
    "The Telegraph understands that Col Skripal moved to Salisbury in 2010 in a spy swap and became close to a security consultant employed by Christopher Steele, who compiled the Trump dossier".

    *Cui prodest scelus is fecit(for whom the crime advances, he has done it)is a fundamental maxim of jurisprudence. It as a key forensic question in legal and police investigation: finding out who has a motive for a crime. It is the first question to be asked, which may exclude from the start a suspect. Russia had no interest whatsoever, other parties have multiple interests (which would suggest conspiracy).

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    1. Until folks wake up to the possibility that there was no incident, that the whole event might be faked (i.e. no poison and no victims), then the MSM can spin myriad fake yarns that we will still be trying to unravel in another 100 years.

      My default assumption, with regards to incidents like this one, are that they are entirely staged. I mean, if they can start a war based on a non-existent incident (e.g. Vietnam war and Gulf of Tonkin) then why believe this b*ll*cks?

      The entire machinery of the MSM, from local to international, is geared to manipulate us. It aint "infiltrated" nor "compromised" nor "co-opted" -- it was always a primary agent for the intelligent manipulation of the masses.

      Faking an agent's death is kindergarten stuff once you grasp the magnitude of the deception.

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    2. ...or faking an attempted murder, as in this case etc etc etc.

      Don't be surprised if they ever try to sell us an "alien invasion".

      I realise readers here are well aware of MSM perfidy -- I just wanted to get it off my chest.

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    3. Hi anonymous

      "I realise readers here are well aware of MSM perfidy -- I just wanted to get it off my chest."

      I hope you feel better? :)

      The whole episode could be contrived. Completely. I've no problem with putting that in the list of possibilities-

      As stated the one truism ?
      Media inducing/induced hysteria- perception management.

      I chose the word truism because it means "a statement that is obviously true and says nothing new or interesting"

      In other words what I was stating was so obviously true but being nothing new at all.

      Sad that observation (more of the same) was the only fact I can take away from this whole saga as correct, true or factual.

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    4. @faking an attempted murder

      It doesn't take long to find similar situations:

      @theduran.com/syrian-filmmaker-caught-hoax-or-msm-sensationalism/

      "The Washington Post reported on March 8th, 2018 that a filmmaker who emigrated to the United States from Syria had been involved in creating a film that would be on the order of Schindler’s List for its portrayal of the terrible war and awful conditions in his homeland. It appeared, one night in Istanbul, that he was about to get a big break to help him make the movie. They were to meet someone, a businessman, who said he wanted to fund this project, called The Tunnel.
      But then, as the director reached for the phone offered by the businessman, someone stabbed Bayazid, getting him in the shoulder through the passenger’s side window. Mr. Bayazid said that his partner, a cinematographer who was with him, stepped on the gas and they raced to a hospital.
      This incident, according to Mr. Bayazid, was an assassination attempt, organized by none other than President Bashir al-Assad of Syria, in an attempt to make sure the truth about him and his country never saw the light of day.
      On October 10, 2017, Muhhammad Bayazid’s story made international news, through its broadcast by the BBC, the Guardian and other outlets. The director was lauded as a hero, and a brave storyteller. And, donations flowed for The Tunnel, ostensibly so it could be finally made....
      …But then a twist happened.
      Videos began to surface, showing Mr. Bayazid chatting with a man in Arabic, with the content of the discussions being the plans to get Bayazid stabbed in Istanbul, to create a scam situation. In one of these discussions, Bayazid is allegedly heard saying:
      "When there is danger or harm, it accomplishes several things: The first is media buzz. When that happens, within a period of 48 hours, you and I are going to be the two most famous people in the Middle East.”

      Text book psy-ops.

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