Friday, January 11, 2019

Updated: US "Withdrawing" From Syria? Troops Not Included.

Lots and lots of reports claiming that this morning..

All reports are dependent on this:
"A convoy of ten US military vehicles was seen leaving a base in Hasakah province in northeast Syria and heading towards the Iraqi border, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights"
10 Military Vehicles leaving from Hasakah province headed for the Iraqi border.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which monitors the conflict in Syria through a network of activists on the ground, said the withdrawal began Thursday night. It said a convoy of about 10 armored vehicles, in addition to some trucks, pulled out from Syria’s northeastern town of Rmeilan into Iraq.
10 Vehicles heading for the Iraqi border. Has a withdrawal begun?
Or are we supposed to believe that one has?

TIME also included an out of context quote
Col. Sean Ryan, spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition fighting the Islamic State group, said “the process of our deliberate withdrawal from Syria” has started.
Notice the has started is not in quotations? Is not attributed to Col Sean Ryan?

“Out of concern for operational security, we will not discuss specific timelines, locations or troops movements,” the Baghdad-based official said in a statement emailed to The Associated Press.
If Col Ryan will not discuss specific timelines, locations or troop movements should we believe the out of context quote that the withdrawal has started? 

There were no other details, and it was not immediately clear how many vehicles or whether any troop units had withdrawn.
Should we believe that the movement of 10 vehicles between Syria and Iraq constitutes withdrawal?

I don't. 

Movement between Iraq and Syria of US military, equipment and vehicles has been covered for years here at the blog. Therefore it's going to take more then this latest claim to convince me the US is withdrawing.

How about you? 

Additional reading here 

UPDATE 10:40 am 

 U.S. defense official says no U.S. troops have withdrawn from Syria but equipment is being pulled out

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. defense official says no U.S. troops have withdrawn from Syria but equipment is being pulled out.

Equipment being pulled out. That's not a withdrawal.



  1. changed the headline to reflect the updated information included at bottom - Equipment movement- Troops not included.

  2. Hi Penny:

    IMO the US is just moving the troops over the border to the new bases they're building in Iraq and calling it a withdrawal from Syria.

  3. Hey GC:

    I'm leaning in the entirely different direction- they aren't going anywhere at all- Most of the military is already stationed in Iraq- with a smaller force in Syria and they just rotate them in and out.

  4. Hi, Penny!
    It looks more like a new war:


    1. Hey J!
      I will check it out- thanks

    2. J: I'm just about to do a quick post on how Pompeo is saying this is a 'tactical change"
      Reading the link you left..

      "No doubt, chancelleries as far apart as Paris, Berlin and Moscow – and, most certainly, Ankara, Tel Aviv and Tehran – would be sensing that a paradigm shift is under way."

      Paradigm shift/tactical change
      I'd say we are definitely looking at a new phase of this regional remake

  5. Sure wish I could get Condie Rice's words out of my head, or at least see some strong indication that what she predicted on behalf of the Bush gov't is proving impossible. You're so right, Penny; the remake has just moved into a new phase.
    "Plans for Redrawing the Middle East - Among the Most Popular Global Research Articles"

    By the way, Penny, my post today includes a bit on the Saudi runaway story. Thanks for commenting!

    1. Hey Yaya

      Yes the birth pangs of a 'new middle east'

      Thanks for the link to that piece Yaya. It's good to know that the remake the region concept is getting out there- I've been on it for years now.. And it seemed mostly unnoticed. Scott at Nomadic everyman was the only blogger who consistently wrote about the subject.

      I'll come have a look at the post later, I hope?
      The past few days have been so hectic...
      I had picked up some weirdness in that news and just couldn't shake it, but, no way could I address it

      ty Yaya

    2. "Moreover, it is worth noting that the subject of the Armenian Genocide is being politicized and stimulated in Europe to offend Turkey."

      I've noticed that big time and that's not as simple or straightforward as is claimed. However it plays on previous memes... so it's familiar and can be used to demonize a nation that is about to be targeted.