Tuesday, April 8, 2008

who needs rendition elsewhere, we can do it in Canada

Let's reflect
Canada, free and democratic? With a fair judicial system for all her citizens, right?

Why was Saad Gaya, a young Canadian man who has been accused – but not convicted – of terrorism, kept in solitary confinement at the Maplehurst Correctional Complex for 23 1/2 hours a day for a whole year awaiting trial? Was that necessary? Was it reasonable?

well was it? Is this Syria? Is this Guantanamo? Nope this is Canada, what the heck is going on?
Is this how all prisoners are treated? I mean this was not even a convicted criminal, this was someone awaiting trial, innocent until proven guilty? Or guilty by ethnicity?

And what about the horror story told by another of the Toronto 18, a juvenile who has had the charges against him stayed? The youth, whose identity is protected by law, told his family a tale of psychological and physical abuse that calls to mind the intimidating treatment meted out to prisoners by American military jailers at the Guantanamo Bay detention centre for suspected terrorists.

Like others in the Toronto 18, the youth was kept in solitary for almost three months until his release on bail. When he told jailers he was cold or thirsty they told him he wasn't in a hotel, a member of his family reports. For two days, his cell had no pillow, blanket, water or toilet paper. And he says the guards pushed him to the ground, handcuffed and shackled him, and make him crawl along the floor.

I must say, I was stunned to read this, just stunned, this juvenile was not even found guilty of anything, as the charges were stayed. That means dropped.

Perhaps I have been naive about the judicial system in Canada, perhaps I had thought Canada was more civil, more decent, more democratic, apparently I was only fooling myself.

Terror suspects' troubling tales


  1. Hi Penny,

    Yes, you were fooling yourself. I suspect that this will only become worse with time, as Canada adopts a more 'American-style' prison system.

    This whole Toronto 18 thing is fishy from whichever side one looks at it. IMO it is akin to the farce of 'Heritage Front' years ago, where it turned out the the majority of the 'membership' were actually undercover agents! (LOL)

    Oh well, who cares though eh? As long as the sheeple are scared and don't question the state!!



  2. Penny, I have always believed that as long as you weren't noticed by the police or the mafia you could believe in the Canaidian dream of justice for all. But my mother was raised in a community in the so called wrong religion and she would soon fill us in on all the injustices she saw in this small farming community. I saw some of it too but because my mother married into the proper level of that community we did not experience the injustices.

  3. hey b:
    people should care, these young men are canadian citizens.

    what does that mean other canadians can be subjected to???

  4. Hi Penny,

    I'm sorry I was being somewhat sarcastic. You are right that more people NEED to care, as it will reflect on how all of us are treated by the so-called justice/law establishment.

    Sadly, so many have been brainwashed into the belief that this War on Terror is real, and that under each pillow at night lurks a jihadist! These terrified proles beg for more loss of transpancy, in the name of 'security', that they sacrifice all of their liberties.

    All one can do is spread the word, and hope against all odds that enough of them wake up.