Wednesday, July 29, 2009

US and Canada may use experimental additives in Swine Flu shots

Swine flu vaccine manufacturers may be allowed to use experimental additives in the vaccines!?
Is the claim that they have not done this before legitimate?
The most common adjuvants presently allowed are Mercury (Thimerosol) and Aluminum Hydroxide.
So, are these entirely new adjuvants? Is fast tracking these vaccines with experimental adjuvants a good idea?

Note: there is some discrepancy depending on resource wether Thimerosol is an adjuvant or just a preservative. Read linked article above.

In the U.S. an emergency declaration to use experimental additives made by GlaxoSmithKline Plc and Novartis AG to boost a limited supply of shots that will be available to fight the pandemic.
The ingredients, known as adjuvants, may be added for the first time to flu shots in the U.S.

“The question is, do you really feel comfortable throwing this new thing into the mix and do you really need to?” said Treanor, a professor of medicine, microbiology and immunology at the school in Rochester, New York. “I myself, if I had to do it, would really wrestle with that decision.”


As swine flu vaccine becomes available in coming months, boosting compounds known as adjuvants may stretch out limited supplies. But they also pose special challenges for vaccine regulatory agencies in places like Canada and the United States. Neither country has licensed flu vaccines with adjuvants in them before.

FYI: If you are here reading the swine flu postings, be sure to click the"swine flu" tag at the bottom of the post. Doing so brings up every post on the subject and there are links in each post.


  1. Thimerosol is not put in as an adjuvant, it is a preservative. Aluminum salt and MF59 are the only approved human adjuvants.

  2. I am using the information from the linked article.
    Under the section

    Toxic adjuvants in flu vaccines

    "A further major source of toxicity in the case of the flu vaccines are the adjuvants, substances added in order to boost the immunogenicity of the vaccines. There is a large literature on the toxicities of adjuvants. Most flu vaccines contain dangerous levels of mercury in the form of thimerosal, a deadly preservative 50 times more toxic than mercury itself . At high enough doses, it can cause long-term immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioural dysfunctions. Also associated with mercury poisoning are autism, attention deficit disorder, multiple sclerosis, and speech and language deficiencies. The Institute of Medicine has warned that infants, children, and pregnant women should not be injected with thimerosal, yet the majority of flu shots contain 25 micrograms of it."

    Another common adjuvant is alum or aluminium hydroxide, which can cause vaccine allergy, anaphylaxis, and macrophage myofascitis, a chronic inflammation syndrome, In cats, alum also gives rise to fibrosarcomas at the site of injection . Numerous new adjuvants are no better, and could be worse. According to a recent review in a science and business pharmaceutical publication, most newer adjuvants including MF59, ISCOMS, QS21, AS02, and AS04 have “substantially higher local reactogenicity and systemic toxicity than alum.”

    Is this the first time adjuvants have ever been allowed in human vaccines as is being claimed?
    Or is this the first time some new adjuvant is being allowed, which is it?

  3. Anonymous is anonymous for a reason it would appear...great and very important post Penny...let the nit noid chickenshots post their idiocrity fo all to see....

  4. Who really cares what you call one toxic chemical or the other It is all in the same syringe.. Why was there legislation that this toxic crap they want to inject doesn't have to be tested or why immunity for the drug manufacturers if people die or get sick? Sounds genocidal to me...

  5. HI Guy and Margaret and thanks for your encouragement.

    "Who really cares what you call one toxic chemical or the other It is all in the same syringe.."

    I will agree with that sentiment completely.

    It is bad enough the vaccine itself is experimental, then these experimental additives on top of it, and yes immunity for the drug manufacturers!!!!

    It is ridiculous for such a mild flu.

    Is this all really necessary?
    And this stuff about the second wave, I was reading an article, saying the more severe second wave is not likely and in fact has never happened.
    For the most obvious reason, as the flu virus spreads, so does the immunity to it. So if, or when it does,comes back many, many more people will have immunity from it then the first time around.
    I will dig up that article and post it here.

  6. The moment they begin forcing Canadians to submit, is the day they will drink their own blood.

  7. Scary stuff, Penny. I won't be a guinea pig. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

  8. What truly boggles my mind is that there are those out there who actually WANT this thing jabbed into their arms, and their kids' arms!


    I've had the flu shot once, only once and it was the only time I every got really, really sick with - you guessed it - the frikkin' flu. That was, oh gosh, at least 15 years ago. Never again. I haven't been that sick since!

    What worries me, is their making it manditory. How are they going to enforce this? How long have they been looking for a reason to impose martial law on us? I think they've found it in the aptly named 'swine' flu.

    Penny, I'm sure you've heard already that the WHO has recommended vaccines for EVERY country on earth.

    It has begun. All we realised, and knew was coming, it is starting now. It's almost surreal.

  9. hey qotn!
    I am hoping I am not being to scary.

    maggie: I saw about the mandatory shots, worrisome.

    btw: I posted the article about the second wave being more severe never happening, so check it out if you are reading here.

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