Monday, September 23, 2013

Israel Sides with Syrian Jihadists

Having mentioned my previous post about Israel loving Islamists, more then once and searching repeatedly for it, I am happy to say, I finally found it!
My rediscovery could not have come at a better time!
More accurately, after the news of Ambassador Oren gushing all over the Islamic IDF in Syria and me feeling so pleased
 Ambassador Oren: Israel has wanted Assad ousted since BEFORE Syria war began
I cannot express to you all the level of vindication I feel in reading this news, today.

For two and a half years I have talked plainly and clearly about the involvement of Israel in the take down of Syria. I talked about it because it was so obvious despite the media spin and talking head lies!
I went back to searching, but there are so many posts to search through.... Yet, this morning there it was!?
Sometimes when you  really need something????... It appears!
So, lets go back to November 2012! - Almost a year ago.

 Who loves Islamists? Israel loves Islamists! Israel & FSA work together

Israel and  NATO Islamic mercs-  Work hand in glove

Ok, so we have been noticing the Israeli government and army getting themselves more involved in the destabilisation of Syria. Well.... maybe not more involved, since Israel has been part and parcel of the not so covert war on Syria for some time now. Possibly longer then any of us realize.
Israel is the biggest beneficiary, in the middle east,  of the destruction of Syria.
Which is why Israel is "in bed" with the Islamists.
Israel and the Islamic IDF mercs- Hand and glove. In bed together.  Ambassador Oren gushing.
And an interesting oped to round out the picture. Israel. Saudi Arabia. The Islamic IDF. 

Israel Sides with Syrian Jihadists
The article starts out with the Ambassador Oren announcement. 


 Israel’s pronouncement that it wants Syrian President Bashar al-Assad toppled even if al-Qaeda-aligned rebels replace him puts into sharper focus the intensifying lobbying and P.R. campaigns underway in the United States to get President Obama to engage militarily against Syria and ultimately against Iran.

Until the declaration by Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren on Tuesday, Israel’s precise position on the Syrian civil war was ambiguous, (no, it was not ambiguous)  but now it is clear that Israel again is lining up with its new de facto ally, Saudi Arabia, in a regional conflict to undermine Iranian influence.

Michael Oren, Israel’s ambassador to the United States.

“The greatest danger to Israel is by the strategic arc that extends from Tehran, to Damascus to Beirut. And we saw the Assad regime as the keystone in that arc,” Oren told the Jerusalem Post

Saudi Arabia, which is spearheading the military and intelligence assistance for the Syrian rebels,is concerned itself about what is called the “Shiite crescent” extending from Iran through Iraq and Syria to the Hezbollah enclaves of Lebanon. The Saudis, who follow an ultraconservative form of Sunni Islam, are now viewed in the region as the geopolitical bulwark against the Iran-led Shiite coalition.

Ambassador Oren, who is considered very close to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is cited in the Reuters article as saying that while Israel favors the more moderate elements among the Syrian rebels, it still wants Assad’s ouster even if it results in radical Sunni Islamists coming to power in Damascus.

“We always wanted Bashar Assad to go, we always preferred the bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran,” Oren said. Reuters added, “Oren, a Netanyahu confidant, did not say in the interview whether or how Israel was promoting Assad’s fall.”

However, Oren’s decision to lift the veil on Israel’s behind-the-scenes role in seeking Assad’s removal is certain to fuel suspicions that some of the recent events in Syria may have been manipulated by the sophisticated intelligence agencies in Riyadh and Tel Aviv. Saudi intelligence is now headed by Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the smooth-talking former ambassador to the United States.

Though Saudi Arabia and Israel have historically been enemies, the two countries – in recent years – have seen their interests align, especially in their hostility toward Iran as well as in their preference for an authoritarian regime in Egypt over the populist Muslim Brotherhood. Now, it appears they also have been on the same page regarding Syria.

Israel and Saudi Arabia have been on the same page for a good long time now- Prior to 9/11

In complementary ways, Israel and Saudi Arabia are masters of soft-power geopolitics, both with world-class intelligence services and with the ability to influence the actions of other global players, Israel through its unparalleled propaganda and political skills and Saudi Arabia with its grip on oil supplies and financial markets.
Israel and it's unparalleled propaganda and SA with its oil.

To the degree that the two countries can cooperate, they present a fearsome coalition, rivaling the hard-power nations like the United States and Russia. President Barack Obama would have to worry about the influential Israel Lobby causing him political trouble in Washington while the Saudis could disrupt oil supplies and stock prices.

Meanwhile, Russian President Vladimir Putin could see pro-Israeli propagandists step up the media attacks on him while Saudi intelligence could increase support to Islamist terrorists in Chechnya and elsewhere in the Russian Federation, including against next year’s Winter Olympics in Sochi.

Masters of the Dark Arts

Israel and Saudi Arabia are masters of the dark arts of intelligence. Israel’s intelligence services are legendary in their cleverness and ruthlessness, while Saudi intelligence has had deep experience in financing major covert operations, including the Afghan war against the Soviet Union in the 1980s, an effort that gave rise to the scion of a Saudi fortune, Osama bin Laden, and al-Qaeda.

The Saudis also have a history of financing violent jihadists whose actions are directed against the United States and the West. According to the 9/11 Commission report, 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi nationals and the one part of the report blacked out addressed the issue of Saudi financing for al-Qaeda. (Israel and SA together)
The de facto alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia also should be factored in when evaluating evidence of the Syrian chemical weapons attack on Aug. 21, just after United Nations inspectors had arrived to examine other CW attacks that the Syrian government was blaming on the rebels.

While the major U.S. newspapers and non-governmental organizations are now nearly unanimous in blaming President Assad’s regime for the attack which killed hundreds of civilians, some of those assumptions – especially regarding rebel military capabilities – may not hold if the rebels had access to materiel from Saudi Arabia or Israel. [

Israel is one of a handful of nations that has balked at ratifying the Convention Against Chemical Weapons, a short list of rogue states that Syria has agreed to leave by accepting international prohibitions and destroying its supplies of CW. Israel is widely believed to have a stockpile of high-quality chemical weapons as well as an undeclared nuclear weapons arsenal.

Saudi Arabia, with its near-bottomless pit of money, also could have arranged for the rebels to get Sarin or other chemical weapons along with rockets to deliver them, if that’s what its intelligence agency decided.

Now,with the emerging U.S. consensus that Assad’s forces were to blame for the Aug. 21 attack and Oren’s pronouncement that Israel would rather have al-Qaeda extremists governing in Damascus than the pro-Iranian Assad, the pressure is likely to build on Obama to take ever stronger action against Syria.

Theother option that Obama may have is to opt for further collaboration with Putin, seeking progress in negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program (asthe new Iranian government signals an eagerness to compromise) and pressing to get the Syrian rebels to join peace talks in Geneva (so that the killing and disorder finallycan be stopped).

Assad’s regime has agreed to participate in the talks but the fractious rebels haverefused, first demanding more sophisticated U.S. weapons to give them the upper hand and insisting that Assad step down as a precondition to negotiations. [See’s “Who Blocked Syrian Peace Talks?”]

Realizing they now have the backing of Israel as well as Saudi Arabia, the Syrian rebels are likely to resist any U.S. pressure for a cease-fire or peace talks. It’s less clear whether Obama can withstand the political and propaganda pressure that Israel and Saudi Arabia can be expected to direct against him.


  1. shame on TIME for associating whistleblowers with murderers

    1. hey brian
      if not murderers then terrorists
      spin, spin, spin

  2. Yes Penny, because of skeptics such as you, and others, who don't take regular media spin for truth, the world is more informed. Considering the array deployed against truth, it's truly an uphill battle. Thanks!..ben

    1. you are welcome ben :)
      glad to see you still peaking around
      and yes, it truly is an uphill battle against a mud slide with boulders coming down at ya, and still I am standing! :)
      take care!

  3. Great job informing the people Penny. They just can't keep up with reality.. but the most do thank you.

  4. I thought it interesting to see an organization called RATS since those who read Syrian Perspective know what a 'rat' is. Though these RATS are anti-rats.

    SCO Council of Regional Anti-Terrorist Structure (RATS)

    Doku Umarov is turning up the heat in the North Caucasus with 2 new bombings.

    China’s Gwadar plan is slowed due to terrorism in Balochistan and Xinjiang. And Kerry is confused as to why he just got slammed by China over Syria????

    More on all this at Boiling Frogs... Great Game Round Up

    also, this is definately worth a listen at Sakers Vineyard
    Valdai International Discussion Club

    and for todays comedy, or not really comedy, watch this tard from the idiot side try to tell us the FSA consists of 100,000 defected Syrian army troops. Posted on is a video replay of PressTV interview where Eric Draitser of shuts this tard down.

    Debating the War on Syria

    Oh, and Hi Penny. Did you know Michael Oren's real name is Michael Scott Bornstein? Did you know he was in the IDF during the 1982 war against Lebanon? Did you know his unit was slaughtered by the Syrian Army right at the beginning of that invasion? Anyone want to take a guess at why he is so happy to see Syria being attacked besides the fact he is just a brain dead zio-stool pile.

  5. anyone want to take a guess at who this upsets more? Obummer, Netyaboohoo, Rothisachild, or king of sand, er saud

    just look at that picture. suck on it McStain.

    Ya know I'm starting to have fun with this name callin thing. I just hope Russia does not take offense when I refer to them as Vikings once in a while... It is out of respect and not meant as anything other. (Rus, from the Greek, meaning those that row)

  6. US couple jailed for rape of Kazakh adoptees

    I'm not sure of what to say of this. The American abuse of foreign adoptees is well known. Why do the sods do this shit. Cheap thrills, low cost? That's as American as it is Israeli.

    One suspects that the sort of degenerate psyche that for the most part excuses the abuse of children in places like America, serves also to allow the promotion of extreme sicko shit that runs these zionazi occupied countries.

    BTW, I'm not suggesting zionazi's have the patent on this shit, it's something institutional to right wing control. Ask your local rabbi or priest or corporate managing director (fresh out of "public school", prep school in the USA).

    The abuse starts at home, then they spread it to the workplace, then it becomes the politics, the way of society.

    The mentality of Jimmy Savile, the zionism, the fascism, the child abuse, the exploitation mentality, cowardly taking advantage of those who cant defend themselves, this is basic to far right mentality, where Jewish zionazis shine, from their practiced abilities, and from their total lack of humanity.

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  7. I wonder if the urgent push for a UN resolution with a chp 7 clause so soon would have anything to do with the fact NATO will have such a strong force in the med. in a few days???

    part of area of exercise shown on FAA restrictions list... lol nice security if I can find it. I guess that is what happens when they train someone and then stab them in the back... ;)

    area in bold shows points in LAT-LONG coordinates. connect the points to form a polygon and you get the area they will be operating in.

    - 385347N0081646E 390600N0082614E 390000N0090000E 384500N0092500E
    382500N0092500E 385347N0081646E

    - OTHER DATA UNCHANGED. SFC - FL200, 26 SEP 12:00 2013 UNTIL 06 OCT 23:59 2013.
    CREATED: 09 SEP 21:37 2013

  8. a crisis actor: man of many parts

    the fellow is
    Shakeel Ahmad Bhat
    (Kashmiri: शकील अहमद भट (Devanagari, Śakīl Ahamad Bhaţ), شکیلن احمد بھٹ (Nastaleeq))[1] (born around 1978[1]), nicknamed Islamic Rage Boy by several bloggers, is a Kashmiri Muslim political activist[2] who has been in photographs on the front pages of many newspapers and has become a cult figure on the Internet. He has been featured in newspapers such as the Times of India,[3] Middle East Times,[4] France 24,[5] and The Sunday Mail[1]

    yes it is staged