Tuesday, January 21, 2014

Syrian torture claims- Without the torture- Unlike Abu Ghraib- Odd?

Coincidence? Not.  
We are witnessing a smear campaign against Syria being put forth by Qatar.

H/T commenter
simone lagareJanuary 21, 2014 at 3:59 AM

Please people get on to Social Networking site and POST! Call these photos of torture that are making the rounds on the MSM BULLSHIT they come from QATAR!

More stories. So very reminiscent of the chemical weapons psy op- Images and allegations
Briefest digression and then we will move on-
To this very day do we really know if any chemical attack was launched near Damascus?
Relinking because this went unnoticed- Analysts question US intelligence on alleged chemical attack

 Experts agree that the chemical weapons attack in the Syrian capital of Damascus could not have happened the way the US government contends

The attack could not have happened the way the US government contends. If it happened at all?

In such a timely fashion..... what appears today?  ‘Evidence’ put together by the Qatar monarchy to manage your reality. If you will just believe unflinchingly.  And just as the US showed it’s deceit and dishonesty.  Oh but never mind there is torture ya know?

Here’s the story. Syrian regime accused of torture
The report was commissioned by the Gulf state of Qatar, which backs the Syrian rebels.

The report was commissioned by Qatar, a backer of the murderous mercs.
That's red flag number 1!
The report is based on evidence  from an unnamed informant, a photographer who claims to have defected from the Syrian military police. Identified as ‘Caesar' to protect his identity, the informant said he had smuggled photographs and files out of Syria on memory sticks to a contact in the Syrian National Movement.

Unnamed informant, who smuggled images and files on a memory stick..
That's red flag # 2!

He claims that the smuggled data, which includes some 55,000 digital images, documents the deaths of 11,000 detainees in custody at the hands of the Syrian government from March 2011 until August 2013.

Some of the photographs show emaciated, bloodstained corpses bearing signs of torture. Others show bodies with eyes missing, while there are signs of strangulation or electrocution on others.

‘Caesar' claims they died in captivity before being taken to a military hospital to be photographed.
 Claims photographs taken in a 'military' hospital.
That's red flag #3

If  'Caesar' is an insider. With insider knowledge. Why doesn't he have photos, images, taken where the detainees were held?  And where all this torture is alleged to have taken place? An insider should certainly have that capability? Why would an insider present info from the outside? Because from what I have read there are no images of victims in captivity. No images of torture as it is happening.
Oh and why not take actual hard files? If you had access you could have taken some before you fled.
Why didn't 'Caesar' take actual hard copies of info?

No images of torture in captivity- Unlike Abu Ghraib, right?
Abu Ghraib- images from an insider

All images taken of the deceased in an alleged military hospital?
But nothing to show where these crimes were to have taken place- Unlike Abu Ghraib?

Abu Ghraib
A detainee apparently being abused at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison in 2003.

Why couldn’t this 'insider', military police officer, get images such as those we saw in Abu Ghraib?

Abu Ghraib
A detainee apparently being abused at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison in 2003.

Unless.............. this 'Ceasar' is not an insider?

There is more. Ceasar's story  just doesn't add up. I will elaborate.....
From this article
quoting 'Ceasar'

"The reason for photographing executed persons was twofold. First to permit a death certificate to be produced without families requiring to see the body, thereby avoiding the authorities having to give a truthful account of their deaths; second to confirm that orders to execute individuals had been carried out."
Permit a death certificate to be produced?  Why would this (photo taking)  be required? How would images be necessary for this? (the assumption is that these are Syrian citizens, but, that is not necessarily the case)
If these were any of the vast foreign fighters that may have been incarcerated?  What families would be required to see these bodies? Saudi families? Tunisian families? Chechen families? Libyan families? French families? Brits? Canadians? Americans? etc., etc.,
 And if these are images of Syrian citizens it would make more sense to me that these are indeed images taken by the hired killers. They have been killing so many Syrian citizens all along.

As for all the other claims:
"Military hospital"? sufficiently vague. How many militarized hospitals are controlled by the mercs and NGO’s? Perhaps these images were produced in some Israeli hospital, who really knows?
How many Syrian civilians have the mercs tortured, maimed, raped and killed?
How many persons have the mercs mutilated and then took pics of the  very atrocities they committed?. Their handiwork? Including organ eating?
I am quite certain our Qatari backed military police defector could get his hands on plenty of those images? There are so many of them available on line. One can only imagine the private holdings of the merciless
(captagon high) hired killers?

"The former prosecutors said they were satisfied there was "clear evidence, capable of being believed by a tribunal of fact in a court of law, of systematic torture and killing of detained persons by the agents of the Syrian government. It would support findings of crimes against humanity and could also support findings of war crimes against the current Syrian regime."
There might be evidence of torture? Goodness knows there has been enough reports of atrocities by the rebels. Mass killings. Use of chemical weapons. Beheadings and more. But is there any real evidence of connecting the torture to the Syrian government or Syrian officials? Who conducted the torture?
 Important stuff. None of it addressed by these allegations

The team said they found the informant and his evidence to be credible after "rigorous scrutiny." The images were also examined and authenticated by three forensic science experts, the Guardian said.
The images are most likely real. But that doesn't tell us where? When? Who?

Geneva 2 on the horizon

The report comes just ahead of the Geneva 2 peace talks, due to be held on Wednesday, which are aimed at negotiating an end to Syria's three-year-old civil war.

On Monday, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon rescinded an offer to include Iran in this week's Syria peace conference, less than 24 hours after making it. The decision came after the main Western-backed opposition group, the Syrian National Coalition (SNC), threatened to boycott the talks.

Shortly after Ban withdrew the offer to Iran, the SNC confirmed its participation in the conference.
A pattern we have seen all along concerning the demonization of Syria. Ahead of some meeting... outrageous allegations


  1. The story is being rolled out across corporate media outlets like a new product launch. Very slick, very organized.

    I cannot find one media outlet (even the ultimate war pigs CNN and FOXnews) that outdoes the Canadian CBC on the degree of lies and hype.
    CBC supplies a steady diet of stories on irrelevant topics with a 'liberal' point of view and then when the serious business of selling a war comes up, they make CNN look tame by comparison. The Canadians are so easily conned by CBC, and so many good kind decent people end up supporting immoral wars because of their slick lies and propaganda. Tragic.

    1. What Canadians? You don't think, after witnessing our bootlicking prime minister in the Knesst, we know what the official picture is made of? The same stuff as dreams, or nightmares in this case. Of course we don't believe a word they say!

    2. "Of course we don't believe a word they say!"

      Yes, more Canadian waking up!

  2. "The story is being rolled out across corporate media outlets like a new product launch. Very slick, very organized"

    exactly. the story is exactly a 'product launch'

  3. oh and as for the cbc being the biggest con outlet
    " The Canadians are so easily conned by CBC"

    that is because it is 'canada's broadcast corporation' lol!

  4. Penny,
    The dumbed down are dumbed down fairly equally in the UK, US, Canada, Asutralia, EU and even Baltics and caucauses. The web is larger than even i thought. I didn't fear their power really untill recently.

    Some info I wasn't privy to, and possibly some here were not either
    British Writing Obama's Script for Syrian Trigger for World War III (Updated)

    I knew of the Round Table, and of the Fabian Society, but not London's Henry Jackson Society (HJS)

    That forebodding feeling started creeping up my back shortly after arising this morning, and it's not just Syria but also the announcement by zionist owned US gov/pentagon of how they plan on "being on the ready" ( or some such hogwash) in case of terrorism at Sochi Olympics.
    Others also say it doens't feel right and are warning of a false flag.


    1. The black window hunt has been circulating for the past week with talk yesterday that the perp was already "inside the ring of steel": US and other Olympic teams get terror threat ahead of Sochi Games

      The US-Syria divide is plain to see in the following articles:

      Kerry says Syria's Assad cannot in any way be part of transition

      Washington on Wednesday upped the ante against the Syrian regime, denouncing its "inflammatory rhetoric" at the opening of key peace talks and dismissing claims of improved aid access as "laughable."


      US arms Syrian terrorists while participating in Geneva-2 - Damascus

      Then there is the flare up of the Ukraine protestors with the Russian lawmakers telling the west to stay out of it. Saakashvili has already been banned from the country. That the Georgia-Russia war was during the Beijing opening ceremonies is almost certainly a "anniversary" to keep in mind


      What about the Syrian Chemical weapons source?
      "One likely source is the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA)–funded Richard G. Lugar Center for Public Health Research outside of Tbilisi, Georgia in the town of Alekseyeva."

      US Lab in Georgia at Center of Storm Over Biological Warfare Claims

      Russia ends Nunn Lugar


      Over in Thailand it would appear provocateurs are once again stirring the pot..
      Thai Navy Seal Dismisses Alleged Involvement in Bangkok Blasts

      US moves more troops to Korea

      China tests hypersonic vehicle

      India to launch nuclear subs

      India launches mars mission

      (see if that Indian mars probe actually makes it - h/t Phobos)

      Leaks about China offshore wealth stashed in tax havens rings of Bo (and Heywood/Hakluyt & Co)

      China orders 'urgent' audit of debts after IMF warnings

      China says no longer interested in accumulating reserves; press for Yuan appreciation
      PBOC Says No Longer in China’s Interest to Increase Reserves

      US rejects IMF quota reforms

    2. I was listening to some stuff today about Thailand and wish I had the time to get into it
      But, don't. Thanks for mentioning it though as it should not be forgotten
      It fits somewhere into this whole picture, I am just not sure where?

      and thank you for all the information- you certainly do help to fill in some of the spots I can't get to

  5. Sorry for a second comment, but at the bottom of that article are some URL's
    This one I copy/pasted has the ominous title The Henry Jackson Society:Would-Be Fascist World Rule written 2006

    1. Hey karin
      the henry jackson society has one infamous, notorious ardent zionist who is everywhere on line

      Michael Weiss- he has been discussed on more then one occasion here
      ty for all the other stuff

    2. Interesting that HJS originated within the University of Cambridge, home of the "Cambridge Apostles" secret society (and of spies like the Cambridge Five, one of the being Victor Rotschild).

    3. WizOz

      I had never heard of the Cambridge Apostles secret society?
      goodness.... always something new to learn

    4. Serious researchers called it "the homosexual mafia", a "crypto-protection society in that the bond of friendship has been used to cover up all manner of questionable activities and sometimes even to protect members from being prosecuted", worshipers of the cult of "Higher Sodomy", who "hoped to spread the gospel of the Higher Sodomy among other enlightened contemporaries." Some of the most remarkable intellectuals of Britain belonged to it: Alfred Lord Tennyson, John Maynard Keynes, Ludwig Wittgenstein to name a few. Out of that circle has been recruited the notorious group of "The Cambridge Five", Kim Philby, Donald Maclean, Guy Burgess, Anthony Blunt. The identity of the fifth remained unknown to date (and for good reasons, him being undoubtedly Victor Rotschild, the 3d Baron Rotschild, and for that reason untouchable).

    5. WizOz

      I can just shake my head in amazement-
      One thing that does come to mind is how our 'elites' believe themselves so special- but they always seem, to me anyway, to be seriously deranged
      I guess that is why I see them as psychopaths?

    6. Penny,

      You are right. There is a long history, in fact it is the history of mankind in a sense, of the spread of the the "elites" delusion. The Hindu traditions speak of the "revolt of the Kshatrias" (the caste of warriors) against the Brahmans (the guardians of Tradition) with the accompanying loss of the Spirit and therefore of discernment, twisting of morals and ethical behavior.

    7. thanks wizoz
      I thought I read alot, but, somehow I suspect you have read even more!!

      this would make sense-- the loss of 'spirit' causing them to become deranged-
      because I am not particularly religious in the organized way- I see the loss of spirit as a loss of connectivity to all that is real- which is the earth/cosmos/air/sun and all those wonderful things that keep us alight
      Or that is how it goes for me.
      somehow the elites see themselves as above or apart from that and this makes them sick
      in every way- sick physically, spiritually and morally

      Are we on the same page? Am I making any sense to you?
      hope so?

    8. The Spirit is the Spirit of Truth and Life and of Wisdom and of Righteousness. It is obviously the Holy Spirit.
      It is not boasting, but I did read more than you because, I suspect, I am quite a bit older than you.

    9. Hi WizOz
      I wouldn't have thought you were boasting
      I expect some people are better read then me and some people less so
      it's all good
      if you are older, your mind is as sharp as a blade (just sharpened blade)

  6. The report, which was first made ​​available to the Guardian and CNN, was written by a six-person panel of experts assembled by Carter-Ruck, a law firm working for the government of Qatar, which is a sponsor of the Syrian opposition. http://www.channel4.com/news/geneva-ii-syria-mass-killing-torture-report-peace-talks?fb_action_ids=10152247701063854&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=feed_opengraph&action_object_map=%7B%2210152247701063854%22%3A1397740513813565%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210152247701063854%22%3A%22og.recommends%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D

  7. Tanya Gilbert
    1 day agoEditedPublic
    Post activities

    Here is a response to CNN " breaking news" "crimes in Syria "
    Yes , there is a crimes ,
    By FSA armed gangs , destroyers of their homeland !

    Analysis about CNN report today from +R.W. Emerson II

    First, this is not an unbiased inquiry. Even the panelists are forced to admit that funding came from Qatar. The head of the commission, Desmond De Silva, is a British "Knight" three times over and a member of Privy Council of the United Kingdom in October 2011. Qatar and the U.K. are among the chief belligerents in this war against Syria.

    Second, the commission findings are based on photographs supplied by an anonymous "informer", "Ceasar". Ahmad Chalabi, is this you? The photographs could have been taken anywhere -- in Abu Ghraib, the U.S-run prison in Iraq, for example, The panelists admit that they have no direct evidence that torture was perpetrated by the Syrian government when they state that their conclusion is a "reasonable inference".

    This report reminds me of the reports about Saddam feeding dissidents to a "wood shredder". Of course, this famous "wood shredder" has never been found. It's also a bit like the "incubator" story concocted by Hill & Knowlton when the U.S. needed a pretext for its 1991 attack on Iraq.

    Notice that the report makes no mention whatsoever of the atrocities perpetrated by the anti-government forces -- the mass beheadings, for example. Nor does the report offer a plan for peace in Syria. So I'd have to file this under "War Propaganda", along with the WW I stories about "The Hun" eating babies.

    The only "solution" the war-makers offer is more death and destruction. They use Horror and Sensation to stampede us into accepting a "cure" that is a thousand times worse than the disease.

    "We destroyed the village in order to save it." -- U.S. colonel in Vietnam, as he looked out over the ruins of Ben Suc.

    "It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear." -- General Douglas MacArthur

    "War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses." -- USMC Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler, two-time recipient of the Medal of Honor, 1933 speech 

  8. This fraud should be easy to disprove simply by viewing the metadata attached to the digital photos. All digital cameras these days encode specific data about where and when the photo was taken. A quick check - and BOOM!

    1. Hi Paul

      Agreed. But, that isn't going to happen.The people who produced this pr campaign have no interest in checking metadata. That is not the agenda.

      IMO there is already plenty to demonstrate these pics are not credible for anything...

    2. Agreed. But I'm sure someone will be able to prove it conclusively. Some of those pics are bound to have been sourced from errr.... the internet somewhere (ie, like the 'dodgy dossier'). The people who do these things don't really expect their audience to check things and seem not really to care that much when their lies are exposed. Then they just do it all over again....

    3. Hi Paul

      apologies for the tardiness in responding
      I hope someone is checking and yes I would expect it is possible some of the pics have been sourced from the internet...

      You know it does seem that the ptsb's don't care that their lies are exposed.... And I can see why- most people don't pay any attention
      they just allow themselves to be moved along- or manipulated along
      thanks for stopping by
      very much appreciated

  9. https://www.facebook.com/notes/brian-souter/a-recent-avaaz-email-still-parrots-the-cw-lie/610400312341903


    1. avaaz is still at it?!
      Why does that surprise me? It shouldn't. And yet it does.
      Avaaz is nothing but another NGO- no good organization
      shun ngo's

  10. Russia and Syria are so far the ONLY ones who are holding this charade in Montreaux together. Ban Ki Moon shows clear evidence what a Western Puppet he REALLY is, Iran is key and it is IMMORAL to issue an invitation pre conditions or otherwise. US one day and I hope it is VERY soon and I live to see it meets its judgement day 911 is just the tip of the iceberg NEVER see a country who thinks immoralism and decency are fatal diseases, along with sincerity and other things that represent being upstanding and righteous, US lacks that considerably more so since WWII. I can go on but later at some other time. Iran not being invited just shows what poison the influence of America is and as for that other poison America's other little project the so called Syrian Coalition should cease to exist a poison also created by Qatar ,Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Jordan and would not be surprised if Isreal had a hand in it. The poison in the World are the West, Allies their little lap dogs..

    1. Oh Israel has a very big hand in all of this...
      Ban Ki Moon has to be a puppet. No one is going to lead the UN unless that is all he/she is.
      Given the reality of what the UN is

  11. Pen glad you've been busy exposing the sham topsy turvy world that the msm presents every day. This is getting silly - Ahmad al-Jarba holding up gruesome but dubious photos brings back memories of Kuwaiti diplomats their daughters, acting lessons and incubators...http://www.voanews.com/content/syria-conference-opens-with-acrimony/1835090.html
    Its obviously "he said she said" time with desperate attempts to draw attention to Hezbollah volunteers in Syria. The hypocrisy is just simply staggering. Like the economy there is no longer any rationality (integrity went long ago) in Western international relations. Time to order the pop corn and see where the Geneva charade will go. Thanks for your tireless reporting and best wishes, Carol

    1. Hey Carol
      glad your still around
      hope all is well with you and yours?
      Saw the photo Jarba the drug dealer was dragging around...
      I am sure he knew it had nothing to do with Syria
      but what the hell, he went for the gut!

  12. #‎ISIS‬ ‪#‎terrorists‬ kidnap, killed 120 journalists in 3yrs in ‪#‎Syria‬. http://youtu.be/D0xIRyCC3PY