Thursday, March 27, 2014

History Repeats- Will Afghanistan repeat in the Ukraine?

History repeats, because we (society) don't know any real history.We learn whitewashed, sanitized, dumbed down  versions of 'truthiness'  We have no real concept of  specific actions taken, actions that were intended to start wars. Destroy nations. What ever the case may be?  For example, CIA backed Islamic mercs were employed in Afghanistan  in the late '70's in order to provoke a response from the Soviet Union. How many people are aware of that fact? How many believe the state approved version of events? That it was an unjustified invasion. And, could we see a scenario playing out in Ukraine that would look very familiar to the events that took place when the CIA intervened in Afghanistan?

 The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan

Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski,
President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser

Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998
Posted at 15 October 2001

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct? 

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it? 

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today? 

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.
B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

Translated from the French by Bill Blum

Brzezinski is correct. There is no global Islam. Only the spectre of one.
As for Ukraine. A nation divided. Already impoverished. It is ripe for the picking -apart.
Instead of  "some stirred up Moslems" - created and nurtured by NATO,  we have another fighting force of western nurtured  fascists thugs. Gladio style (A)? Or a  Gladio B?  Doesn't matter?
It would seem those two have co-mingled In the Ukraine. And Chechnya.

Would the western backed thugs be willing to spend months poking away at Russia?


Their was an absolutely useless vote at the UN declaring the Crimean referendum illegal. As if ?
It is a non-binding resolution, purely nonsensical exercise in PR. Expect the news to rehash this psyop all weekend.


Progressive Radio News Hour – Rick Rozoff- First half of the show


  1. Hi
    A good friend mine who lives town is Afghanistan and he told when walking to school that day they saw a Russian soldier standing near by, this was first. They walked over to him and asked what he was doing the answer was I don't know and I'm not Russian I'm East German they had us dress in Russian uniforms. He told me about 2 weeks later real Russian soldiers showed and the others disappeared.

    He's family had money so the left the country for good first to England were there was family then on to Amerika. He still has family there in Kabul and at that time it was very modern and western. Women were in all professions and dressed western and the country side was completely different but they all got along that is until we came.

    Just think the young Russian Lt. and Captains of this madness are now Russian Generals and years ago in reading what one them had say about the made up conflict they would never forgive Amerika

    1. Hi jo!

      Sad to think of the country of your birth being so utterly destroyed- sigh
      I doubt Russia will forget this bit of history, though one never knows for sure
      But do the Ukrainians understand how easily they can be used, abused and tossed aside by the big boys in NATO?
      I wonder about that?

  2. speaking of Brzenzski:
    Brzenzski and russiaphobia (epidemic in the US universities) drive the US made ukraine crisis
    'Boyle: Indeed Brzezinski wants to crackup Russia into its constituent units.

    Robles: Right, I think it was 68 autonomous regions, if that’s what it was.

    Boyle: It’s more dangerous than that! In that Obama’s mentor at Columbia was Brzezinski. And Brzezinski ran the foreign affairs apparatus for Obama’s campaign and he has staffed the Obama administration with his acolytes and protégés, like McFaul – the recently resigning ambassador.

    Robles: I’m sorry, can you expand a little bit on McFaul? You said he is one of Brzezinski’s protégé.

    Boyle: Yes, he is from the Hoover Institute at Stanford, which is a neo-conservative operation out there, and Brzezinski is one of these people.

    Robles: Was McFaul chosen by Brzezinski?

    Boyle: I think all the high-level appointments in the Obama administration in foreign affairs have been run by Brzezinski. That is my personal feeling looking at it. Yes, Brzezinski decided not to take a position himself, but all these people that have surrounded Obama, not just on Russia, but other areas, are Brzezinski protégés and indeed that goes back in the Democratic Party I think since Carter came to power and Brzezinski was his National Security Advisor. You know, he was the one who started the Afghan Mujahidin war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and bragged about it.

    So, within the Democratic Party Brzezinski is considered to be their foreign affairs guru and he was Obama’s mentor at Columbia, and it is a matter of public record that Brzezinski was running the foreign affairs apparatus for the Obama campaign.