Saturday, March 15, 2014

How will things change in Crimea if it joins Russia

The answer, judging by this WP- Europe article is, thing will change for the better. 
For the heck of a lot better!
Definitely better then choking down the IMF reforms- already requiring pensions to be halved
Let's read on

Voters in Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula make a choice Sunday: Stay with Ukraine or join with Russia. The pro-Russian faction promises that a vote for “the motherland” is a vote for a better life. Many on the pro-Ukraine side fear a return to Russian rule.
How will life really change in Crimea if the referendum is approved? My colleagues Carol Morello and Pamela Constable in Crimea, Kathy Lally in Moscow, and Anne Gearan in Washington have been covering the news, and here’s what they’ve found out:
Let’s start with money matters. Who will pay the pensions of retirees who paid into the Ukrainian system?
Voters are being told that Russia will assume the obligations for all pensions, with a big leap in benefits. For example, the average monthly pension in Russia is said to be about $270, almost double the $150 paid in the average Ukrainian’s monthly pension. And the retirement age will drop by five years, to 60 for men and 55 for women.
Retirement age at 60! And 55 for women?! In Canada you work till you drop dead. The 'democratic' government, just upped the retirement age to 67. For men and women both.
Will people working in government offices, schools and hospitals lose their jobs?
Authorities have vowed that nobody who is doing satisfactory work will be fired, and most will get raises.
 And what about schools?
 Schoolchildren are expected to get new history books with a more outsize section on Russian history and its version of events, such as World War II, which Russians and Crimeans refer to as the “Great Patriotic War.” Officials say that for the next year, at least, Crimeans will be allowed to enroll at Russian universities without taking an entrance exam. Next year, they will have to take the regular Russian enrollment exam.
Will everyone get Russian passports?
Though details are still being ironed out, it is believed that all native Russian speakers — most people in the Crimea area — will be eligible for Russian passports. People whose choose to keep their Ukrainian passports won’t be forced to leave, but they won’t be able to vote in elections.
Will it be harder to travel outside of Crimea?
That depends. The only commercial planes that regularly fly out of Crimea go to Moscow, Istanbul and Kiev, Ukraine’s capital. There’s a train that goes to Kiev. But if Ukraine and Crimea do not establish friendly relations, it will become much more difficult to get out of Crimea.

What will happen to the Ukrainian soldiers and sailors who are now stranded on military bases and ships surrounded by pro-Russia self-defense militias and Russian troops?
They will be given a choice of switching over to either the new Crimean forces or the Russian armed forces. Those who stick with the Ukrainian military would have to leave for the mainland. Those who switch allegiance are being promised Russian military pensions — about $600 monthly, compared with $240 a month for the average Ukrainian military pension. They are being promised generous housing allowances, as well.

What about the United States? What’s its view of the referendum?
 You can read that at the WP link above. But, what about the United States?
To which I ask, why should the Crimeans concern themselves with the US?
Or the EU? All the US/EU are offering the Crimean people is debt servitude/enslavement!
Why on earth would they care how the US views their referendum?

Electricity and gas?
Ukrainians say it could take awhile — Crimeans say months, but it could be far longer — to hook Crimea up to the Russian grid, and if Ukraine cuts access some residents might lose power for awhile. But filling up cars will be cheaper, as Russian gasoline is about 60 percent of what it costs in Ukraine


  1. the corpses of the Maidan dead are barely cold and already the likley villain is to decide how they were killed
    Rory Yeomans ‏@roryyeomans 5h
    #AndrijParubiy to lead #Kiev "sniper" investigation. If you know who he is, you'll understand why this is a bad sign:

    Shots that killed both civilians and police officers were fired from the Philharmonic Hall building in Ukraine’s capital, former head of the Security Service of Ukraine Aleksandr Yakimenko told Russia 1 channel. The building was under full control of the opposition and particularly the so-called Commandant of Maidan self-defense Andrey Parubiy who after the coup was appointed as the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Yakimenko added.

    Furthermore the former security chief believes that Parubiy has been in contact with US Special Forces that could have coordinated the assault.

    “Shots came from the Philharmonic Hall. Maidan Commandant Parubiy was responsible for this building. Snipers and people with automatic weapons were ‘working’ from this building on February 20. They supported the assault on the Interior Ministry forces on the ground who were already demoralized and have, in fact, fled,” Yakimenko said in an interview with Russian television.

    The police officers were chased by a group of rioters armed with various we

  2. Anatoly Karlin ‏@akarlin88 53m
    Here is how nice civilized Anglo-Saxon countries deal with "people power." … #fb

  3. The Actual Kosovo Precedent

    Imperial propaganda insists that, unlike the case of Kosovo, the separation of Crimea is absolutely different and there can be no comparison. This is a red herring. The only context in which Russia has mentioned Kosovo is the 2010 decision of the International Court of Justice on the legality of independence declarations.

    As predicted here at the time, the ICJ’s shameful decision is now coming home to roost. When Serbia challenged the "Kosovian" declaration of independence, the Empire strong-armed the ICJ into ruling that it wasn’t illegal per se. As the dissenting judges pointed out, this involved a "judicial sleight-of-hand" which redefined the ethnic Albanian provisional legislature – operating under specific UN rules – as something else. The Crimean legislature is legal, legitimate and has every right to do whatever it pleases come Monday. And the only "argument" the Empire can offer in dissent is, "because we say so." Come to think of it, that’s precisely all the "argument" it offered in Kosovo.

  4. Hi Penny
    What People really want,
    Tony Benn rip
    till relevant still poignant still saying what is important to people

    10 min monolog



    1. worth listening to just to hear him say
      people who are in debt are slaves to their employers

  5. NOTE Crimean referendum website was down on Sunday. Previously, organisers said the site underwent a DDoS hacker attack originating in the University of Illinois Urbana-Champagne in the United States.
    Alec Luhn in Moscow says that Russian state television is reporting a huge turnout for Crimean referendum and “no armed men” at the polling stations.

    State news agency Interfax is quoting observer Enrique Ravello, a well-known nationalist deputy in Spain’s parliament, as saying he’s seen an “unprecedented turnout” in Crimea. “There’s no coercion, pressure on people. The referendum is being held peacefully, freely and openly.”

    According to polling by German research group GfK, 70% of Crimeans who want to participate in the referendum plan to vote to join Russia, while only 11% plan to vote to remain part of Ukraine.

    The Crimean referendum website was down on Sunday. Previously, organisers said the site underwent a DDoS hacker attack originating in the University of Illinois Urbana-Champagne in the United States.

    St. Petersburg has closed down its main street for an automobile rally in support of the Crimean referendum organized by conservative parties.
    Yesterday, Moscow saw huge competing rallies for and against Russian intervention in Ukraine. At least 10,000 people took part in an anti-intervention, anti-Putin rally, at the end of which was read a resolution calling for the withdrawal of Russian troops from Crimea and the end of Russian interference in Ukraine’s internal affairs.

  6. Terre ‏@terbleu 44m
    Osmaev (the correct name) could not be extradited from Ukraine to Russia because of interference of the European human rights court.
    (why dud EHR interfere?)
    Terre ‏@terbleu 46m
    ..Osmanov (he is Chechen) is a suspect in the case of an assassination attempt against Putin. Osmanov was arrested in 2012 in Ukraine.

    Terre ‏@terbleu 50m
    Amina Okueva, recognized by an Ukrainian journalist as one of his torturers on Maidan in Kiev, happens to be a wife of Adam Osmanov...
    Terre @terbleu 33m
    In the ID of a Russian "spy" caught by the Ukrainian SBU his rank is simply stated as... "a spy" LOL

    Terre @terbleu 36m
    A Russian "spy" caught by the Ukrainian security service, SBU, has entire Russian Internet laughing out loud: :)))

  7. Retweeted The Voice of Russia (@VoiceofRussia):

    Residents of Lugansk in eastern Ukraine block train carrying military hardware to Ukrainian-Russian border

  8. Choking down the IMF poison seems to be the logical end for Ukraine. However it gets carved up by the NATO block and the Russians, it will end in austerity, loss of control over resources and debt.

    Putin would be happy to have the IMF to solve the Ukraine problem, and has no issues with Ukraine being enslaved by the IMF bailout.

    1. interesting read, perhaps Putin see's it as giving the Ukrainian people exactly what they want?

  9. I am going to put this here- comments posted on CBC

    "Speaking of freedom of speech, which does not exist in Canada
    NATO approved censorship by the sanctioned censor team at CBC is alive and well and impeding the discourse of Canadians- how many comments did I have blocked over the past two days? So when we speak of Canada as being so free, lol
    Let us bear in mind that in Montreal- just yesterday, 300 were arrested protesting police violence And it is being reported at RT
    But according to the NATO media that kind of stuff only happens 'somewhere else'
    Like in Russia. So when peaceful protestors in Canada protest, the police move in for the crush. A veritable army of them
    Yet when armed thugs overthrow a government, destroying vast swathes of the city
    the Canadian government and it's flunkies laud the desire for freedom. Along with the NATO media, of course And so many Canadians just repeat the empty platitudes with dull eyes and blank faces

    “It was a veritable army of police ... who occupied the area surrounding the Jean-Talon metro when the protest was to start,” the Collective Opposed to Police Brutality, which organizes the annual protest, said in a written statement issued after the protest.

    In Canada boys and girls. In Canada« less

    28 minutes ago

    The comment got 6 likes. And then the moderators disabled the comment.
    Unbelievable- That is at CBC.

    Then I put this through and it was instantly disabled


    CBC mods, you allowed my comment- it got a bunch of likes and you disabled it?!
    When you do things like this you validate my point absolutely about the lack of free speech and the heavy hand of big brother in this country
    shameful, very shameful

    Moderation of valid commentary is censorship- period
    no name calling, no foul language and on topic
    CBC- Censoring Because it CAN

  10. Meanwhile
    Report: Syrian opposition willing to trade Golan claims for Israeli military support, Top opposition official tells Al Arab newspaper militant groups want Israel to enforce a no-fly zone. (Haaretz)

    1. oh my goodness!

      I was just posting this! I started writing and once I posted your comment was here
      Are you a mind reader ;)