RIR- Max Igan- Zionist Terrorism in Gaza

I have updated this post and it now contains the entire two hour interview. A must listen interview!  

1- Thanks to Henrik @ RIR 

2-Thanks to Max Igan @ his Youtube channel: Uploads from thecrowhouse
(This is the first time I had ever heard of Max Igan- so many people out there for me still to find, even after all these years of blogging!)

3-And finally thanks to freethinker who let me know the whole show was available

 In this program we discuss Zionist terrorism in Gaza and the current bombing campaign and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. We’ll talk about the lies pushed by the Zionist controlled mainstream on this issue and the double standards of Israel’s policies. Max also talks about his visit to the Gaza Strip and the many kind Palestinians he met there. He tells us how he entered in to the checkpoint ridden area using one of the many tunnels from the Egyptian side, where he also met border officers from Hamas. Later, we discuss the monumental lies and disinformation surrounding World War II, especially what happened to Germany.

The map tells the truth

Israel has stolen yet more land from the Palestinians in Gaza!
How much of this newly stolen land was arable land, where food was produced for the population? 


Please read the previous post! 

Is Europe’s breadbasket up for grabs? The Plunder of Ukraine.

Is Europe’s breadbasket up for grabs? The Plunder of Ukraine.

Ukraine's Plunder- Readers here knew this was coming. How many in Ukraine were truly aware of the costs of western style 'democracy'- Vast wealth for the tiny elite psycopaths and vast impoverishment for the masses.
 
Minimal background on this topic:  
* Ukraine: Cargill acquires stake in UkrLand Farming/food control = people control

*The New Great Game: Why the Ukraine matters to so many other nations

* Battle for Ukraine

NEW YORK, Jul 30 2014 (IPS) - Amidst an exodus of some 100,000 people from the conflict-torn eastern Ukraine, ongoing fighting in the urban strongholds of Donetsk and Luhansk between Ukrainian soldiers and separatist rebels, and talk of more sanctions against Russia, it is hard to focus on the more subtle changes taking place in this eastern European nation.

But while global attention has been channeled towards the political crisis, sweeping economic reforms are being ushered in under the leadership of the newly elected president Petro Poroshenko, who recently brokered deals with the World Bank and International Monetary Fund that have rights groups on edge.

Even before Poroshenko assumed office on Jun. 7, international financial institutions (IFIs) were rushing emergency missions into the country, with IMF European Department Director Reza Moghadam declaring on a Mar. 7 visit, “I am positively impressed with authorities’ determination, sense of responsibility and commitment to an agenda of economic reform.”

This is why Yats quit (or maybe not?) Either way? He did what had to be done. He delivered Ukraine into debt servitude. Debt enslavement

After years of dangling a 17-billion-dollar loan – withheld in part due to ousted President Viktor Yanukovych’s refusal to implement a highly contested pension reform bill that would have raised the retirement age by 10 years, and his insistence on curbing gas price hikes – the IMF has now released its purse strings.

The World Bank followed suit, announcing a 3.5-billion-dollar aid package on May 22 that the Bank’s president, Jim Yong Kim, said was conditional upon the government “removing restrictions that hinder competition and […] limiting the role of state control in economic activities.”

While these reforms include calls for greater transparency to spur economic growth, experts are concerned that Ukraine’s rapid pivot to Western neoliberal policies could spell disaster, particularly in the immense agricultural sector that is widely considered the ‘breadbasket of Europe.’

 A quiet land-grab

Ukraine is the world’s third-largest exporter of cotton and the fifth-largest exporter of wheat. Agriculture accounts for about 10 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), with vast fields of fertile soil yielding bumper harvests of grain and cereals each year.

According to a 2013 forecast by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Ukraine is poised to become the world’s second biggest grain exporter in the world (after the U.S.), shipping over 30 million tonnes of grain out of the country last year.

Who controls the food controls the people...

The World Bank estimates that farmers and agricultural workers made up 17 percent of the country’s labour force as of 2012. And according to the Centre for Eastern Studies, agricultural exports soared in the last decade, from 4.3 billion dollars in 2005 to 17.9 billion dollars in 2012.

Lush soil and a rich agrarian culture do not immediately add up to nationwide dividends. Potential investors have cited“red tape” and “corruption” as hindrances to development, as well as a communist legacy that forbids the sale of land.

But the past decade has seen an abrupt change in Ukraine’s agricultural sector, with foreign investors and agri-business hugely expanding ownership and influence in the country.

According to a report released Monday by the U.S.-based Oakland Institute, over 1.6 million hectares of land have been signed over to multinational companies since 2002, including “over 405,000 hectares to a company listed in Luxembourg, 444,800 hectares to Cyprus-registered investors, 120,000 hectares to a French corporation, and 250,000 hectares to a Russian company.”

A deal brokered between China and Yanukovych prior to the political crisis – now disputed under the present regime – granted Beijing control over some three million hectares of prime farmland in the east, an area about the size of Belgium that totals five percent of Ukraine’s arable land.

This changing climate has been a boon for investors and corporations, with Michael Cox, research director at the investment bank Piper Jaffray, referring to Ukraine as one of the “most promising growth markets for farm-equipment giant Deere, as well as seed producers Monsanto and DuPont.”

Such statements have raised a red flag among researchers and trade watchdogs.

OI Executive Director Anuradha Mital told IPS, “IFIs are imposing Structural Adjustment Programmes (SAPs) in Ukraine, which we know – from the experience of the Third World – will undoubtedly lead to severe austerity measures for the people and increase poverty among the Ukrainians.”

Maidumb?

“Ukraine is also one of the 10 pilot countries in the World Bank’s new Benchmarking the Business of Agriculture (BBA) project,” Mittal told IPS, referring to a brand new initiative, still in the development stage, which is connected to the Bank’s controversial Doing Business rankings.

This index has been criticised by numerous groups including the International Trade Union Confederation (ITUC) – comprised of over 176 million members hailing from 161 countries – for favouring low taxes for transnational corporations and lowering labour standards in developing countries as a means of attracting foreign investment.

The Bank itself says the BBA will largely serve as a tool for improving agricultural output.

Agricultural output of profits for big Agribusiness- That is what is being referred to.

“The world needs to feed nine billion people by 2050,” a World Bank spokesperson told IPS.

 Bullocks! Profits. Big Oil. Chemicals. And the disgusting frankenfood the GMO's
IMF doesn't care one whit about feeding people. The well being of people. None of that. This article broke my heart, made me so sad and angry and just disgusted. The IMF cares about banking and indebting people because they aren't a charity, they are a private banking institution!

“For small-scale farmers to be more productive and far more competitive, they need access to land, finance, improved seed, fertiliser, water, electricity, transport and markets.

“By identifying and monitoring policies and regulations that limit access of smaller producers to these critical components of success, BBA is being designed as a tool to foster an enabling environment that boosts local and regional agribusinesses,” she concluded.

More Bullocks!

But the OI report’s co-author Frédéric Mousseau says initiatives like the BBA and others exist primarily to pry open Ukraine’s doors, hitherto sealed by its socialist traditions, to foreign capital.

“These reforms sound good on paper, but when you look more closely you see they are actually designed to benefit large multinational corporations over workers and small-scale farmers,” Mousseau told IPS.

“Ranking systems like the BBA push for contract farming, which entails farmers working for corporations, instead of as subsistence producers. We are denouncing this rhetoric, and its attendant struggle between different foreign interests over Ukraine’s resources.”

Research into the impacts of the Bank’s ‘Doing Business’ rankings in eight countries – including Mali, Sierra Leone, Sri Lanka and the Philippines – has yielded similar results: sharp increases in foreign investments and land-grabbing in a bid to appear more ‘business friendly’.

Seriously, this is heartbreaking stuff :(

Further, Mousseau said, arrangements such as the Association Agreement between the European Union and Ukraine offer glimpses into an agricultural future steered by corporate interests.

“Until now, Ukraine had banned the use of GMOs in the agriculture sector,” Mousseau stated. “So when we anaylsed the EU Association Agreement we were surprised by article 404, which states very clearly that both parties agree to expand the use of biotechnologies.”

Such clauses, experts say, could strengthen existing initiatives such as Monsanto’s Ukraine-based ‘Grain-basket of the Future’ project (which offers 25,000-dollar loans to rural farmers) and Cargill’s 200-million-dollar stake in UkrLandFarming, the eighth largest land cultivator in the world.

These developments give weight to the title of OI’s report, ‘Walking on the West Side’, a reference to the role of Western interests in Ukraine’s unfolding political crisis.

“It is necessary to see this in context of the U.S.– Russia struggle over Ukraine,” Joel Kovel, U.S. scholar and author of over 20 books on international politics, told IPS.

“Geostrategic politics and neoliberal economics fit together within the overall plan …in which global finance capital under American control and neoconservative leadership imposes austerity, seeks dominion over the easternmost portion of Europe, and continues the policy of encircling Russia,” he stated.

This is so sad. So, sickening. My fellow humans when are you, each one of you, going to take back what is rightfully yours? Please stop participating in this system that is actually destroying each and every one of us.
Food is vital to our survival and healthy non mutated food is absolutely imperative. This is why I garden, personally.  What are you doing to change the situation? (My reason for blogging endlessly)  Please think about these things? This is important. It is vital to our survival as a species. I cannot stress that enough.
Apologies if I sound preachy, but, there it is. Realize we must as a species ensure or survival. Or we will be the guarantors of our own extinction. Breaking free of this system is paramount to our survival.

Coordinated Sanctions Target Russia's Ability to Tap Oil Reserves including Arctic resources

I have mentioned the control of Arctic resources previously as one of many reasons for the targeting of Russia by NATO.

So, it is interesting to note that the sanctions are geared towards prohibiting Russia from accessing it's Arctic resources
Before we get to the sanction we are going to FLASHBACK to December 2011. Back more then 2 & 1/2 years ago.... Cause sometimes you have to go back to the future - Pun intended

Who controls the Arctic, controls vast resources

Just a quick post. A little something to think about...

If you had doubts that the NATO world army has designs on Russia, as they do the bidding for banksters, big oil and other global robber barons, clear your brain of those doubts. Now.

The Arctic Circle

The Arctic. Resource rich and largely under the control of Russia-

Some of the world's richest reserves of the stuff are buried beneath the beds of the Berents sea, North of Russia and well into the Arctic Circle. It's estimated that this area holds somewhere around a quarter of all the oil reserves in the world.

Get the picture? Vast resources, untapped. Notice the expansive Russian coastline? 

*Now, let's check out the sanctions. The "coordinated" sanctions

From this article "Coordinated Sanctions Target Russia's ability To Tap It's Oil Reserves

The United States and Europe kicked off a joint effort on Tuesday intended to curb Russia’s long-term ability to develop new oil resources

 In announcing coordinated sanctions, American and European leaders went beyond previous moves against banking and defense industries in an effort to curtail Russia’s access to Western technology as it seeks to tap new Arctic, deep sea and shale oil reserves. The goal was not to inhibit current oil production but to cloud Russia’s energy future.

The new strategy took direct aim at the economic foundation of Russia, which holds the largest combined oil and gas reserves in the world.

The growth of the oil industry in the last two decades has powered Russia’s economic and geopolitical resurgence since the collapse of the Soviet Union and enriched allies of President Vladimir V. Putin. Russia pumps about 10.5 million barrels of oil a day, making it among the largest producers

 “The biggest edge that Western energy companies still have is their technological edge — that’s why these sanctions have the potential to have significant impact,” said Michael A. Levi, an energy expert at the Council on Foreign Relations. “Chinese companies can’t step in and provide shale technology where U.S. companies are blocked. They can provide capital; they can provide people. They can’t fill in on the technology front.”

 The technology cutoff could be important because Russia is only now at the early stages of developing new Arctic, deep sea and shale resources.

 Europe has still not gone as far as the US, however, Europe is clearly run by a bunch of idiotic sychophants & toadies, who are, as I had feared willing to harm the entire European populace to appease Washington.

European governments moved ahead despite concerns that Europe would pay an economic price for confronting the Kremlin more aggressively. While their actions went far beyond any previously taken against Russia over the Ukraine crisis, they were tailored to minimize their own costs. The arms embargo, for instance, applies only to future sales, not to the much-debated delivery by France of Mistral-class helicopter carriers that resemble bigger aircraft carriers. And the energy technology restrictions do not apply to Russian natural gas, on which Europe relies heavily.

Really, Europe?

For Shame! Canadian MP's "fact find" for Israel's "perspective"

 Named below

The six parliamentarians travelling on the mission, which returns to Canada on Thursday, are: Liberal MPs Carolyn Bennett and John McCallum, Conservative MPs Randy Hoback, Ted Opitz and David Sweet and Liberal Sen. Grant Mitchell.

3 Cons and  3 Libs- The two sides of the same coin.

Bought and Paid for by an Israeli lobby in Canada-  The Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs

"the parliamentarians won't be going to Gaza"

 Fogel also made no excuses for the fact that the view they'll get of the conflict will be one-sided, with briefings provided by Israeli government and military officials.

 "But for us, the issue is very much focused on what Israel has had to endure"

What Israel has had to endure? 

What is that exactly?
The gift of inhabited land from the criminal UN?
All the while starving, killing and displacing the inhabitants?
While having the backing of the NATO global tyranny army?
What is it that Israel has to endure?

"Hail Caesar" Syrian "Defector" appears in Washington

I cannot believe they are still 'wagging the dog' with this psyop?
Seriously. I covered this so long ago. It's baloney. Plain and Simple. And yet, here it is July 29/14 and Caesar is still making the rounds

So "hail Caesar" as your lying reigns supreme in Washington DC. With your 'friends' from the Holocaust ™
Memorial Museum.

A Syrian defector (not) who smuggled out thousands of photos of mutilated corpses, showed some of those images in Washington on Monday and said they depicted prisoners who were tortured and killed by the security services of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

The presentation to a small group of reporters and researchers at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum marked the first time that the defector, identified only as Caesar, has appeared publicly to answer questions about a trove of materials seen by human rights organizations as evidence of war crimes committed by Assad.

Flash back to my previous post on psyop Caesar- January 21/2014

Syrian torture claims- Without the torture- Unlike Abu Ghraib- Odd?

 Coincidence? Not.  
We are witnessing a smear campaign against Syria being put forth by Qatar.

H/T commenter
simone lagareJanuary 21, 2014 at 3:59 AM

Please people get on to Social Networking site and POST! Call these photos of torture that are making the rounds on the MSM BULLSHIT they come from QATAR!

More stories. So very reminiscent of the chemical weapons psy op- Images and allegations
Briefest digression and then we will move on-
To this very day do we really know if any chemical attack was launched near Damascus?
Relinking because this went unnoticed- Analysts question US intelligence on alleged chemical attack

 Experts agree that the chemical weapons attack in the Syrian capital of Damascus could not have happened the way the US government contends

The attack could not have happened the way the US government contends. If it happened at all?

In such a timely fashion..... what appears today?  ‘Evidence’ put together by the Qatar monarchy to manage your reality. If you will just believe unflinchingly.  And just as the US showed it’s deceit and dishonesty.  Oh but never mind there is torture ya know?

Here’s the story. Syrian regime accused of torture
PDF

The report was commissioned by the Gulf state of Qatar, which backs the Syrian rebels.

The report was commissioned by Qatar, a backer of the murderous mercs.
That's red flag number 1!

The report is based on evidence  from an unnamed informant, a photographer who claims to have defected from the Syrian military police. Identified as ‘Caesar' to protect his identity, the informant said he had smuggled photographs and files out of Syria on memory sticks to a contact in the Syrian National Movement.

Unnamed informant, who smuggled images and files on a memory stick..
That's red flag # 2!

He claims that the smuggled data, which includes some 55,000 digital images, documents the deaths of 11,000 detainees in custody at the hands of the Syrian government from March 2011 until August 2013.

Some of the photographs show emaciated, bloodstained corpses bearing signs of torture. Others show bodies with eyes missing, while there are signs of strangulation or electrocution on others.

‘Caesar' claims they died in captivity before being taken to a military hospital to be photographed.

 Claims photographs taken in a 'military' hospital.

That's red flag #3

If  'Caesar' is an insider. With insider knowledge. Why doesn't he have photos, images, taken where the detainees were held?  And where all this torture is alleged to have taken place? An insider should certainly have that capability? Why would an insider present info from the outside? Because from what I have read there are no images of victims in captivity. No images of torture as it is happening.
Oh and why not take actual hard files? If you had access you could have taken some before you fled.
Why didn't 'Caesar' take actual hard copies of info?

No images of torture in captivity- Unlike Abu Ghraib, right?

Abu Ghraib- images from an insider

All images taken of the deceased in an alleged military hospital?
But nothing to show where these crimes were to have taken place- Unlike Abu Ghraib?

A detainee apparently being abused at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison in 2003.

Why couldn’t this 'insider', military police officer, get images such as those we saw in Abu Ghraib?

A detainee apparently being abused at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison in 2003.

Unless.............. this 'Ceasar' is not an insider?

There is more. Ceasar's story  just doesn't add up. I will elaborate.....
From this article
quoting 'Ceasar'

"The reason for photographing executed persons was twofold. First to permit a death certificate to be produced without families requiring to see the body, thereby avoiding the authorities having to give a truthful account of their deaths; second to confirm that orders to execute individuals had been carried out."

Permit a death certificate to be produced?  Why would this (photo taking)  be required? How would images be necessary for this? (the assumption is that these are Syrian citizens, but, that is not necessarily the case)
If these were any of the vast foreign fighters that may have been incarcerated?  What families would be required to see these bodies? Saudi families? Tunisian families? Chechen families? Libyan families? French families? Brits? Canadians? Americans? etc., etc.,
 And if these are images of Syrian citizens it would make more sense to me that these are indeed images taken by the hired killers. They have been killing so many Syrian citizens all along.

As for all the other claims:
"Military hospital"? sufficiently vague. How many militarized hospitals are controlled by the mercs and NGO’s? Perhaps these images were produced in some Israeli hospital, who really knows?
How many Syrian civilians have the mercs tortured, maimed, raped and killed?
How many persons have the mercs mutilated and then took pics of the  very atrocities they committed?. Their handiwork? Including organ eating?
I am quite certain our Qatari backed military police defector could get his hands on plenty of those images? There are so many of them available on line. One can only imagine the private holdings of the merciless
(captagon high) hired killers?

"The former prosecutors said they were satisfied there was "clear evidence, capable of being believed by a tribunal of fact in a court of law, of systematic torture and killing of detained persons by the agents of the Syrian government. It would support findings of crimes against humanity and could also support findings of war crimes against the current Syrian regime."

There might be evidence of torture? Goodness knows there has been enough reports of atrocities by the rebels. Mass killings. Use of chemical weapons. Beheadings and more. But is there any real evidence of connecting the torture to the Syrian government or Syrian officials? Who conducted the torture?
 Important stuff. None of it addressed by these allegations

The team said they found the informant and his evidence to be credible after "rigorous scrutiny." The images were also examined and authenticated by three forensic science experts, the Guardian said.

The images are most likely real. But that doesn't tell us where? When? Who?

OH and btw ISIS beheaded a whole slew of Syrians.  
But, we are still getting the Caesar baloney?
Timing on the Caesar psyop?

Why Europe depends on America: WW1 and a single pivot point

I find this Chicago Tribune piece- Odd?  Disconcerting? Considering we are in the 100 year anniversary of WW1 and knowing how history repeats, because we aren't told any real factual history this editorial  reads like a real call to war! A reason the US simply must act.

"The Great War" and "The war to end all war" proved to be neither. The conflict that would bleed to death some of Earth's proudest empires - while killing 16.5 million soldiers and civilians - later would be christened World War I to distinguish it from the next, even deadlier slaughter. WWI also created a precedent and an image: If you wonder why Europe today relies on the U.S. and not, say, Brazil or China to help protect Ukraine, the answer traces back a century, to one battle in which American doughboys helped repel Germans grinding toward Paris.
One hundred years ago this week, the interlocking machinery of European alliances creaked into action: Austria-Hungary declared war against Serbia on July 28; Russia mobilized to defend the Serbs; Austria's ally, German Kaiser Wilhelm Hohenzollern, declared war against his cousin, Russian Czar Nicholas Romanov II; ... War would ensnare France, Britain, the Ottoman Empire and eventually the U.S.
On Aug. 2, 1914, the Tribune editorial board wrote a piece titled, "The twilight of the kings." It is trenchant and lyrical, foreshadowing not only the war's "feudal slaughter" but also sclerotic monarchies, after centuries of family rule, finally yielding to democracies: "The republic marches east in Europe." That editorial's false prediction: "Western Europe of the people may be caught in this debacle, but never again."

So 100 years ago the Chicago Tribune editorial team makes a "false prediction" and they are going to engage in this war spin, yet again? Have they not learned at all?

"Twilight" reflected an America reluctant to join another continent's fight. Woodrow Wilson was re-elected president in 1916 because "he kept us out of war." By April 1917, he no longer could. Submarine warfare had torpedoed U.S. neutrality.
The rest of America's 20th century - and global expectations of this country in the 21st - flowed straight from the languid waters of a river in France.
In summer 1918, at the Second Battle of the Marne, forces of France, the U.S., the United Kingdom and Italy repulsed a strong German offensive. The Americans, fresher than their war-exhausted comrades, tipped the battle that tipped the war: In the words of Tribune correspondent Floyd Gibbons, "I never saw men charge to their death with finer spirit." After the Allies secured victory on Aug. 6, their muscular counteroffensive took only 97 days to break the German Empire.
Footnote to history: Most of what Americans learned early on about the Second Battle of the Marne came from Gibbons' only weapon, his notebook. He had wangled his way to the front, where reporters weren't permitted. As he crawled to aid a wounded major, the third German bullet to hit him took out his left eye. For his heroism, France decorated civilian Gibbons with its military Croix de Guerre (Cross of War) with Palm.
For Americans the war lasted only 16 months and didn't scar their soil or their cities. And while any casualty causes suffering, the U.S. death toll of 117,000 was less than 1 percent of the total carnage.
The U.S. was more than Europe's military rescuer. (Really?) The old continental notion of invincible monarchies - of noble empires as the world's organizing principles - lay in ruin. And if the war itself hadn't wrought enough human havoc, the mobility of armies during and after it helped spread an influenza pandemic that killed 50 million to 100 million people - perhaps 5 percent of Earth's human population.
As all of this settled, one nation stood strongest:
The war effort had made America a greater industrial, financial, naval and diplomatic power. Herbert Hoover's American Relief Administration, which provided food to millions of starving Europeans in 23 nations, reinforced Wilson's dictum when the U.S. entered the war: This country wanted no tangible gain from its outcome. Wilson instead sought to "make the world safe for democracy."
Instead of territorial gain, the U.S. had earned a vast reputational gain. In the eyes of the world, the formerly isolationist Americans were strong, resolute, and willing to pay their own blood and treasure to buy the freedom of others.
So when subsequent menacing "isms" - fascism and communism - threatened Europe, Europeans turned again to the Americans.
The U.S. most notably answered that call in the war for which this year marks another anniversary - World War II started 75 years ago, in 1939.
In succeeding decades, with U.S. involvement in the growth of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and in a long list of geopolitical crises, America's service to Europe has exacted high costs. What was once the most self-reliant continent now sniffs smoke and looks west, trusting that if fire erupts, America will strike it.
This page often criticizes affluent European countries for refusing to spend more on their military preparedness. (straight out of  the NATO PR machine )The collapse of the Soviet Union gave Europe essentially the same sense of calm that had made a massive war unthinkable before World War I. Oxford University war historian Margaret MacMillan writes in The Wall Street Journal of how that war brutalized Europeans who "had grown accustomed during the largely peaceful 19th century to think that peace was the normal state of affairs."
Today the guns of August that savaged poppy-dotted fields in 1914 echo faintly in wheat fields strewn with airliner wreckage and body parts. Crisis in Ukraine has startled those in the West who had come to see Russia as subdued, tamed.
Again, a Europe unable and unwilling to resolve its disputes turns to Washington, where politicians are unable and unwilling to agree on how aggressively America should lead.

 I find this a truly frightening editorial. And wonder at the agenda of the authors at the Chicago Tribune?
Please share your thoughts?

MH-17: Ukraine releases unconfirmed, possibly ill gotten flight data- Updated!

Possibly, incorrect because as you will read the investigators are not confirming the claims made by Kiev.

Ill-gotten defined as -acquired by illegal, dishonest or unfair means.

No confirmation which makes me question the credibility of the information presented.  Is this just a psychological operation?

Lots of news stories with the sentence "Kiev says". Exactly as was written when MH-17 crashed.
This still reeks of creating/controlling the narrative.

Independent 

Dutch authorities have criticised Ukraine for releasing information 'too early' and say they do not know how Ukraine obtained the data

The Independent leads a reader to believe the issue investigators have is with early release of information, but, that is not the case. Kiev's source is under scrutiny? And the so called information is unsubstantiated.

Flight MH17 was brought down by shrapnel that caused “massive explosive decompression,” analysis of the black box recorders has found.

The results, given today by Ukrainian security official Andriy Lysenko, have, however, left Dutch officials stunned as they did not expect the "premature" announcement.

His source however, is under scrutiny after the Dutch Safety Board (DSB) confirmed they did not give the information to Ukraine.

DSB spokeswoman Sara Vernooij told The Independent: "I can’t make a comment on what source Mr. Lysenko has.

"We don’t want to confirm or say anything about the information on the black boxes right now; this in the best interest of the investigation itself.

"We want to analyse [and] combine information of several sources before we bring out anything, so we can give a coherent view on the whole investigation.

"Bringing out fragmented pieces of information is not on behalf of the investigation."

UPDATED
With thanks to Paul, because I did want to touch on this aspect of the Ukrainians impeding access to the MH-17 crash site- Not the antifascist fighters. The Ukrainian junta.

Paul July 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM

ECAC document on Code of Conduct on Cooperation in the Field of Civil Aviation Accident/Incident Investigation, with a few additions by the ECAC, fall to Annex 13 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation. This ECAC code was signed onto by Ukraine in Aug. 2013.

A few things to note in Annex 13.

5.6 The investigator-in-charge shall have unhampered access to the wreckage and all relevant material, including flight recorders and ATS records, and shall have unrestricted control over it to ensure that a detailed examination can be made without delay by authorized personnel participating in the investigation.

5.7 Effective use shall be made of flight recorders in the investigation of an accident or an incident. The State conducting the investigation shall arrange for the read-out of the flight recorders without delay.

Access the crash site was restricted. The investigators were held in Kiev by the Ukrainian gov. due to safety reasons caused by their own military. When investigators reached the site, they were chased away with live fire by Ukraine's military. Also at the train station inspecting the bodies.
ATS records have been seized by Ukraine's military and have not been seen since. The onboard flight recorders are not being read-out to the public, why? The law states 'without delay'. It does not say wait till we can compiles averything, it says now.
Has it been established even who is in charge and what state is to lead the investigation. In annex 13, these are also requirements that should have been publicly stated by now.

This whole thing is in voilation of the law, a complete clusterfck, and will turn into a complete cover-up for mass murder.

That's correct readers the parties (US/Kiev junta) with the most to hide have been all along impeding the MH-17 investigation!

Just today--Fighting Again Forces International Team in Ukraine to Retreat

Ukrainian government troops are trying to retake control of the region around the crash site

Rather then allow the investigators in the Ukraine government decides this is the time to 'retake control' of the region? Really?

  Sergey V. Lavrov, said on Monday that the United Nations should guarantee security in the area, and he called on Ukraine to respect a United Nations Security Council resolution of July 21 that called on all parties to refrain from any action that would complicate the investigation.

Yes, Ukraine should respect the resolution and yet the junta in Kiev is not. Why?

This article from the other day, makes the fascist Kiev agenda quite clear. Quite explicit and this is not a Russian media reporting this. This is the NYT's

Headline- Troops move on crash site, Foiling Deal

-Just hours after the Malaysian government reached an agreement with Ukrainian separatists on Sunday over access to the crash site -The Ukrainian military launched an operation to recapture the debris fields, again stalling international efforts to secure the site.

The reasoning from Kiev for this action is absurd. The rebels had made an agreement with Malaysia, they secured the site, they got the bodies onto trains. They saved the black boxes without Kiev.
So, any excuse making out of Kiev is pure and utter nonsense.

However, below is a sensible statement as to why Kiev is blocking access and destroying the crash site.

Alexander Borodai, confirmed that government troops were advancing.“The attempts to clear militia from the crash site irrefutably show Kiev is trying to destroy evidence,” he told reporters in Donetsk

I believe that is exactly what Kiev is up to. Destroying evidence!

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Cathy Young/Slate- Let's count the adhominems against Stephen Cohen

Cathy Young/Slate- Let's count the adhominems against Stephen Cohen

Never heard of this presstitute previously. Who can keep track of them all? A dime a dozen like any other cheaply made product. Oh, my! Did I use an adhominem to describe this alleged journalist?
Why yes I did! "Presstitute". Obviously a spin off on prostitute- someone who does what ever is asked- for payment.

Except with Cathy Young, not a journalist, the label - Presstitute- fits. She did whatever asked, for money. And she put her name to it!  I read her entire diatribe. It can't be taken seriously. It's a stream of smears, attacks, derisions, adhominem, hysterics etc
It's not factually based. It's not honest. And if you really are into self abuse, at least on par with what I put myself through daily reading the newsiness to sift through the truthiness... To finally extract something that seems logical and makes some actual sense. Feel free to read her "work"
Putin's Pal

Stephen Cohen was once considered a top Russia historian. Now he publishes odd defenses of Vladimir Putin

Cathy Young is going to tell you he is no longer a top Russian historian.

She tells us " he is a lifelong leftist hack"

"His antipathy to Yeltsin led him to sympathize with the views of those Russians who saw their country during the 1990s as “semi-occupied by foreigners" As if that is an untruth? Russians saw their country as semi-occupied because it is their country to see that way and is, as a matter of fact, true.

The piece she referenced as a 'odd defence" of Putin has almost nothing to do with Putin. I know, because I linked that article here sometime ago.
 In this post from July 01/14- The article is titled -

The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev’s Atrocities 

Read the article. Read it again, if you already read it. There is no defence of Mr Putin. And it's a dam excellent article

Cathy Young, lies abut the Cohen article immediately. And then goes on to write what is at its core a smear piece. She cannot factually rebut the information presented by Mr Cohen in his previous article. She doesn't even really try, rather, she writes a lengthy article attacking Mr Cohen. Denigrating his previous work. His political leanings.
She engages in ad hominem. She builds strawman after strawman and tears them down.
She uses red herrings. There are others but just naming a few tactics will assist in understanding exactly what Cathy Young has done and what she is attempting to accomplish in using disinfo tactics
 

Ad Hominem (Personal Attack)

Arguments of this kind focus not on the evidence for a view but on the character of the person advancing it; they seek to discredit positions by discrediting those who hold them. It is always important to attack arguments, rather than arguers, and this is where arguments that commit the ad hominem fallacy fall down.

Red Herring

It is a fallacy of distraction, and is committed when a listener/reader attempts to divert an arguer from his argument by introducing another topic. This can be one of the most frustrating, and effective, fallacies to observe.

Straw Man Fallacy

 A straw man argument is one that misrepresents a position in order to make it appear weaker than it actually is, refutes this misrepresentation of the position, and then concludes that the real position has been refuted. This, of course, is a fallacy

There is always information linked in the sidebar to help us discern. 

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Dragging the people to war is what Cathy Young is doing with her 'work'  Propaganda is a fact of life in the West.

 Finally, I know many of you are familiar with disinfo techniques and propaganda. But this Slate article is a perfect reminder that disinfo is constant. Incessant. And we have to put our critical thinking caps on to get through the stinking piles of shit that are passed off to us as journalism

NATO False Flag- Norway from mercs in Syria? Think- Arctic Resources & Circling Russia!

So, whaddya think?

The new head of NATO, Jens Stoltenberg, from Norway  is set to take the reins of 'power' at NATO.
 Norway’s Jens Stoltenberg appointed as new NATO chief

 NATO’s next leader was announced Friday: former Norwegian Premier Jens Stoltenberg will lead the military alliance starting in October.

Jens Stoltenberg

In just over a month a Norwegian will be in charge of NATO (superficially speaking, of course) 

 As coincidence would have it....or not?  Norway and the US are claiming that there is an 'imminent and 'concrete threat' from  the very NATO backed 'extremists' who are destabilizing Syria?

Seriously?! Credible' Terror Threat in Norway, US Officials Say

Buildings of The Barcode Project are reflected on the water at sunset in Oslo, Nov. 18, 2012

The Barcode Project? Interesting name. Controlled. Trackable. Very creepy.

Recapping-

The very mercs participating in the multi year destabilization campaign against Syria, on behalf of NATO, are now supposedly going to launch an attack on Norway?

If anything, anything at all happens in Norway, you will KNOW with certainty this is a false flag created by NATO nations to set Syria/Iraq up for massive airstrikes

Janes is wagging the imminent terror threat finger!

FYI- There are more foreigners then ever in Syria- 

It's always been the UN of NATO mercs there anyway...

Israeli media is reporting that the mercs have already left for Norway and that Norway knows they are on the way...

We have received information that a group of fighters have left Syria with the aim of carrying out terror attack in the West and Norway was specifically mentioned among their targets,

I would think if they know the mercs have 'left Syria' and are heading to Norway.... then this could be prevented if someone wants to prevent such an incident from taking place?

However? If some interested parties (NATO) wanted to create a justification for air attacks on Syria and likely Iraq, then a false flag in Norway is ideal. The new leader of NATO can then showcase his "huntdown" skills while presenting himself as heroic. A man in charge! Spouting meaningless nonsense at the traumatized population of his very own home country.

Yah, this could work out beautifully as far as psychological operations go.

Of course the "anti semite" card is getting  played

Always a yawn fest. Just reinforcement of all your previous programming.

What is the situation with Norway and Arctic resources?

Could this play into further encirclement of Russia?

I'll answer my own questions with this article, ok?

Wary of Russia, Norway urges NATO vigilance in Arctic

This explains the choice of a Norwegian and the possibility of a false flag attack as justification for big NATO movement in this part of the world.

NATO needs to become more watchful about defending its members' security, including in the Arctic, because of the 'completely new' situation created by Russia's behavior towards Ukraine, Norway's defense minister said in an interview.

 But Norway's Ine Eriksen Soereide told Reuters that Russia's actions raised broader questions about NATO's collective defense - significant comments from a country that borders Russia and is as keen as Moscow to tap Arctic minerals, oil and gas.

At a time when most NATO members are failing to meet the alliance's target of spending 2 percent of economic output on defense, Norway maintains it is investing 1.6 percent, while NATO figures put Oslo's ratio slightly lower, at 1.4.

Soereide said Norway would not cut its defense budget in coming years - especially since it has committed to buy 52 F-35 fighter jets from Lockheed Martin, of which it has already ordered 16.

 Norway- Strategic location. Prime Real Estate

UPDATE- Norway on High Alert Amid Warnings of Attack Next Week

 Next week? Like, Monday or Tuesday? So there is plenty of tell-a-vision/social media time to spin the incident? Including week end rehashes?
 Just wondering?

Update #2-  Norway partially closes Bergen airspace over terror alert

 "Partially closed airspace" What ever that actually means?

 Police have requested Avinor (Norway's state-owned airport operator) to ban flights over central Bergen," 

 Police said the airspace ban applied only to smaller private and recreational flights over the centre of the city in western Norway.

Norway is not an EU member but is part of the Schengen area, which includes 26 European countries that have abolished passport and other types of border controls for people travelling within the group of nations.

Update #3- The date for the alleged terror attack is tomorrow! July 28/14
From this article

"Officials suspected an attack could occur on July 28 "

07/28/14 = A total of seven, sevens.

If you aren't into the numerological aspect of this date. Think of this from the marketing perspective 
The attack/trauma could be reinforced through the repetition of the 7/7's. 


Clearly Christine Lagarde had 7 on her mind when she made a speech about 7's. 
H/T Freethinker
I watched it last week and thought what the hell is she on about. Her speech seemed bizarre
Earlier this month we had the MH17 and 777
So if not occult then certainly very marketable

Gordon Duff on Red Ice Radio. What in the hell?

I just spent two hours listening to this interview.  Two hours of my life I can't get back. Aargh!
Brought to us all by Henrik @ Red Ice Radio

Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War. He is a disabled veteran and has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades. He manages the world's largest private intelligence organization and regularly consults with governments challenged by security issues. His business experience and interests are in energy and defense technology. We’ll begin discussing flight MH17 that went down in the Ukraine.

To each their own. I have never been a fan of his work, have never heard the man speak previously  and remain unimpressed. Actually somewhat disturbed? 
Give a listen and leave your impressions.

Ukraine's Government Crumbles- Yatsenyuik resigns- US hurls new accusations

*Updated with new accusations and additional information- scroll down, please
 
Interesting timing for the rats to jump ship?

Arseniy P. Yatsenyuk, a "pro-Western technocrat" who has guided the Ukrainian government through the tumultuous months since the ouster of President Viktor F. Yanukovyvch, resigned abruptly on Thursday, after the governing coalition of Parliament collapsed.

“I declare my resignation in connection with the collapse of the coalition and blocking of government initiatives,” Mr. Yatsenyuk said from the rostrum of Parliament, according to Ukrainian news services.

Not a 'pro' western technocrat. A Western Technocrat . Recall ? Arseniy Yatsenyuk Foundation

 Did these sanctions get passed before the collapse?

Kiev to introduce sanctions against Russian officials, companies — Yatsenyuk

Is this an orchestrated move to present the Ukrainian government as ‘besieged’

The Ukrainian Cabinet, which includes Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, resigned on Thursday, he said. Yatsenyuk, who made the announcement to parliament, cited the "collapse" of the coalition running the besieged government

*Read below and you will get the idea that this was a planned, expected move

The government crumbles when American military advisers are headed to Ukraine?- 

Info here-Breaking News- Kiev claims Sukhoi's downed by Russia!

Or were the fascist thugs just unable to cooperate?

Ukraine's Prime Minister Quits After Allies Withdraw From Coalition

Ukraine's prime minister announced today that he is resigning after two parties said they were withdrawing from the ruling coalition.

"I am announcing my resignation in connect with the collapse of the coalition," Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said, adding Parliament could no longer do its work.

The Associated Press adds:

    "The nationalist Svoboda party and the Udar party led by former boxer Vitali Klitschko pulled out of the group of legislators 

 Parliament speaker Oleksandr Turchynov said it was up to Udar and Svoboda to propose a candidate for temporary prime minister to lead the government until early parliamentary elections can be held."

Udar and Svoboda to propose a temporary prime minister to lead the government until elections?

Guaranteeing yet another western backed technocrat/ fascist thug to be in place.

Maybe it will be Klitschko, himself ? Recall that Victoria F the EU Nuland thought he needed to gain experience, which is why she wanted Yats, but, who knows maybe he has now gained some 'experience'?

Flashback!

Perhaps it's simply Klitschko's 'turn' to play leader?

Updated begins- U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military

The Obama administration is accusing Russia of firing artillery to hit Ukrainian military sites and planning to send pro-Russian separatists more lethal weaponry.
The State Department says the U.S. has evidence that Russia is shelling Ukraine from sites inside Russia. Spokeswoman Marie Harf also says the U.S. has new evidence Russia intends to deliver "heavier and more powerful multiple rocket launchers" to separatists battling Ukrainian forces in the east of the country.
Harf declined to provide details or elaborate on the evidence because she said she could not get into intelligence "source and methods."

Has evidence. But, could not elaborate.

 "I think this is a fully expected and planned development," said Balazs Jarabik, visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "The president and the government coalition looked for ways to clear the legal way for an early election, as they are under a lot of pressure from Maidan and the public."

 When he took office, Yatsenyuk's administration was expected to be a brief one because it was taking over with the government almost broke and facing the likelihood of adopting unpopular measures to satisfy conditions for rescue loans from the International Monetary Fund. It succeeded in landing the IMF bailout and last week IMF officials said the government was meeting almost all its financial targets.

The Yats resignation- Not unexpected, at all. Yats was just empowered long enough to enslave the Ukrainians to the IMF's austerity. Where is Poroshenko in all this?

Breaking News- Kiev claims Sukhoi's downed by Russia!

UPDATED! SCROLL DOWN!

Hot on the heels of the US admission of zero evidence

The US backs off it's false flag! "No direct link to Russia in downing of MH17

 Kiev this morning (EST) claimed two Sukhois were shot down

Two Ukraine Sukhois downed? Ukrainian Mop up or Seperatist take down? 

Early stories concerning the Sukhois are linked in that post

 Including this strange admission?

"Ukraine’s defense ministry reported Wednesday that two Ukrainian fighter jets had been shot down in eastern Ukraine. The White House has not confirmed the attacks."

And my comment?  Does Ukraine need White house confirmation to make their claims real?

Now, yet another twist in this psyop!
Chicago Tribune 

KIEV—

Ukraine's Security Council said on Wednesday preliminary information indicated that missiles which brought down two government fighter jets over eastern Ukraine were fired from Russia.

"Two of our jets were hit at an altitude of 5,200 meters. According to preliminary information, the missiles were launched from the territory of the Russian Federation," the council said in a statement

A far lower altitude then MH-17 which was NOT shot down by separatists. No even accidentally
Lie, lie and lie again.

A spokesman for Ukraine's military operations said the planes were downed near Savur Mogila, a burial mound in the Shaktersky region where a memorial marks ambushes by the Soviet army on occupying Nazis during World War II.

"They were downed not by terrorists," said Andriy Lysenko, spokesman for the National Security and Defense Council, using the government's term for the separatists.

There was no immediate response from Russian officials.

 As reported in the earlier post- Is it true? Is it more fabrications?

 Igor Strelkov, who is now in charge of the rebel ranks in the eastern city of Donetsk, said the separatists had brought down one plane and that the pilot had ejected. He gave no further details.

Air India flight was 90 seconds behind MH-17?

MUMBAI: The ministry of civil aviation's claim that there was no Air India flight near the ill-fated Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777.

Minutes before the crash caused by a missile strike, the AI pilots had also heard the controller give the Malaysian aircraft MH17 what is called "a direct routing". This permits an aircraft to fly straight, instead of tracking the regular route which is generally a zig-zag track that goes from one ground-based navigation aid or way point to another.

 Soon after the tragedy, the media picked up data from flightradar24, a live flight tracker website which showed the AI aircraft in the vicinity. But the next day, on Friday, the civil aviation ministry issued a statement that "there was no Air India flight near the ill-fated Malaysian plane at the time of the incident".

Also h/t  No More MythsJuly 23, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Slightly off topic but relevant:

Obama orders Pentagon advisers to Ukraine to fend off Putin-backed rebels
U.S. to help Kiev bolster military as pressure mounts on Vladimir Putin
Tuesday, July 22, 2014

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/22/pentagon-team-dispatched-to-ukraine-amid-crisis-wi/

This doesn't bode well.

It definitely appears the US is upping the ante!

 Within the next few weeks, a group of Defense Department representatives who specialize in strategy and policy will head to Kiev to evaluate specific programs that the United States may want to help bolster, said Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman.

 Their objective is to work with Ukrainians to “shape and establish an enduring program for future U.S. efforts to support the Ukrainian military through subject-matter expert teams and long-term advisers,” he said.

 H/T anonymous commenter- Seven Allies Establish NATO's Strategic Communications Center

Two Ukraine Sukhois downed? Ukrainian Mop up or Seperatist take down?

Yesterday, as noted in the previous post, the US admitted they had no evidence supporting all the claims they have been making these past days.

The US backs off it's false flag! "No direct link to Russia in downing of MH17

The news, of having no evidence, came out late in the day. Guaranteeing a reduced media audience reach.
That acknowledgement will be swept under the rug in light of what is breaking as this time.
So, here we are yet again. Almost a week to the day that the MH-17 fell from the sky and the subsequent officially spun, completely unsubstantiated, conspiracy theory narrative fell apart

We are getting this news.

Here

 Two Ukrainian military fighter jets have been shot down in the east, according to the country's Defence Ministry.

The Sukhoi-25 fighters were shot down over an area called Savur Mogila.

Defence Ministry spokesman Oleksiy Dmitrashkovsky said the planes might have been carrying two crew members each.

Ukraine defence ministry spokesman says two fighters were shot down and each plane MIGHT have been carrying two crew members? Don’t they know?

I find this beyond odd, considering Russia identified A Sukhoi 25 as the plane flying near MH-17?
Are the Ukies getting rid of evidence? Planes and pilots involved in the MH-17 incident?
A question that has to be considered?

Here

White house has NOT confirmed attacks?  Does Ukraine need White house confirmation to make their claims real?

"Ukraine’s defense ministry reported Wednesday that two Ukrainian fighter jets had been shot down in eastern Ukraine. The White House has not confirmed the attacks."

CBC

Pro-Russian rebels have shot down two Ukrainian fighter jets, a spokesman for Ukraine's military operations said today.

Ukraine says....

The spokesman said the two Sukhoi-25 fighters were downed around 1:30 p.m. local time near Savur Mogila in Eastern Ukraine.

Igor Strelkov, who is now in charge of the rebel ranks in the eastern city of Donetsk, said the separatists had brought down one plane and that the pilot had ejected. He gave no further details.

No details were known about the pilots, but Ukrainian defence officials said the planes may have been carrying up to two crew members each

Can anyone confirm if Strelkov or anyone affiliated with the antifascists actually made this statement?
This news is very short on details....

UPDATE: What can be learned from MH17’s ‘black boxes’?
The two data-collecting devices can paint a picture nearly impossible to piece together through other means.

 Nearly six days after the attack that brought down Malaysia Air Flight MH17, the plane’s nearly 20-year-old pair of “black boxes” have been delivered to Malaysian authorities. The handover was the result of an agreement negotiated between Ukrainian separatist leader Alexander Borodai and Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak. Now the work begins to free the boxes’ flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorders to reveal what they know.

Nearly 20 year old pair of black boxes? I read through this article and take away a perception of the main stream media prepping to down play the findings or even go so far as claim the boxes were tampered with by the anti-fascist groups .

Flight 17’s “loaf” modules, as the black boxes are sometimes described in the aviation business, are designed to withstand a tremendous 3,400 Gs worth of impact.

And as invulnerable as they may appear, such black boxes aren’t immune to tampering. If the units are correctly hooked up to a power source and allowed to run, the data on them can be rather easily overwritten in the same way that you might record over a VHS tape.

Seeds being sown.... I find it implausible with all the people on the ground around the crash site that anyone would be able to tamper with the boxes. MSM always planting seeds of deception

The US backs off it's false flag! "No direct link to Russia in downing of MH17

No direct link to Russia in downing of Flight MH17: U.S. officials

 The intelligence officials were cautious in their assessment, noting that while the Russians have been arming separatists in eastern Ukraine,(yet another claim made by the US that has never been proven)  the U.S. had no direct evidence that the missile used to shoot down the passenger jet came from Russia"

I am going to ignore all the wild speculation these mouthpieces engaged in and cut to the chase!
In big bold lettering because I want this easily readable to all

"the officials said they did not know who fired the missile" 

"In terms of who fired the missile, "we don't know a name, we don't know a rank and we're not even 100 per cent sure of a nationality" 

 "The officials made clear they were relying in part on social media postings and videos made public in recent days by the Ukrainian government, even though they have not been able to authenticate all of it"

 Have they authenticated any of it?

 For example, they cited a video of a missile launcher said to have been crossing the Russian border after the launch, appearing to be missing a missile.

But later, under questioning, the officials acknowledged they had not yet verified that the video was exactly what it purported to be.

 The missile launcher that US intelligence had claimed crossed the Russian border was shown in the video presentation by Russia

If the US is acknowledging they have no evidence of a SAM being fired. The question that begs asking is....
Did the Ukrainian military plane, that was mysteriously flying in the vicinity of MH-17, fire at the passenger plane bringing it down?

*Because what this admission all boils down to is that nothing the US has previously claimed as fact can be verified as truth, fact or even correct!*

And finally, from the linked news article. Last paragraph!

"On Monday, President Barack Obama said (directly quoted)  the Malaysia Airlines plane "was shot down over territory controlled by Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine." He also said Russia has both trained the separatists and "armed them with military equipment and weapons, including anti-aircraft weapons."

Obama LIED.  He LIED.  Many people died for these lies.

I will embed the Russian presentation below. I will also include one from the US representative.

 Russian MOD presentation





US State Department Presentation

FBI: Framing Muslims as “terrorists” to justify certain political agendas

Let's call this type of action exactly what it is. It is state sponsored terrorism, perpetrated by the state against all of it's own citizens! Period!

This 'news' should come as no surprise to anyone who reads here. Or anyone who is at all in tune with reality? As opposed to being a spoon fed media manipulated dupe?

FBI: Framing Muslims as “terrorists” to justify certain political agendas

Not limited to but including these agendas:

1.Depriving all citizens of their innate human rights

2.Traumatizing citizens with state sponsored acts of tyranny the news of such occurences quickly spread  like any other venereal disease via the presstitutes

3. Justifying bloated security budgets

4. Eavesdropping on your private lives

5. Snooping through finances

6. Impeding your right to travel freely

I am sure the readers can think of more rights being trampled because of the terrorism meme.

A study  co-published by Human Rights Watch and the Columbia Law School Human Rights Institute. (I am no fan of HRW- they do the bare minimum necessary to present themselves as a human rights org- So, it was likely a good thing that another group was involved)

Illusion of Justice

Illusion of Justice describes a number of prosecutions that implemented “radicalization” during a sting operation. In each of the selected cases below, a government agent or informant identified a young man who expressed a controversial political or religious opinion, and implemented a sting operation based on those opinions. In no case was there an identified nexus to suspected criminal conduct.

In one case in 2009, the subject of an HBO documentary premiering this week, an FBI informant met James Cromitie, a 45 year-old African-American man, outside a mosque in Newburgh, New York. The informant, under the instruction of his FBI handler, probed Cromitie with questions about jihad and his opinions on world politics. Having heard his target’s controversial opinions, the informant continued to push, eventually offering Cromitie $250,000 to participate in a fake attack. After losing his job at Walmart, Cromitie accepted the offer.

In a 2012 case from Chicago, an FBI undercover agent began targeting Adel Daoud in an online chat room shortly after his 18th birthday. He was not a member of a terror cell, or seeking one out. Still, Daoud had questions that he posed online about Islam and jihad. The undercover online agent answered his questions, offering responses that strung Daoud along into a violent plot which he and the agent planned together. Daoud was arrested in front of a bar in downtown Chicago, having attempted to detonate a jeep full of false explosives that he drove downtown. The FBI provided Daoud with the jeep, fake explosives, and driving directions.

And in a 2004 case in New York City, a government informant targeted Matin Siraj, a Muslim teen with documented mental health problems. The informant, who met Siraj through his regular surveillance of a Bay Ridge mosque and bookstore, began by speaking with the young man about politics, and eventually showed Siraj pictures of abuse at Abu Ghraib. “There were articles and photos of children mangled or decapitated or burnt alive,” Siraj wrote to me. Over the course of a year, the informant developed a fatherly relationship with Siraj, as they developed a plot together to attack the 34th Street Herald Square subway station. Siraj never agreed to finally execute the plot, defaulting to a lookout position. He told the informant, “I have to, you know, ask my mom’s permission.”

US: Terrorism Prosecutions Often An Illusion

And here-  Government agents 'directly involved' in most high-profile US terror plots.