Got this message from Willy Loman:link to post and video from fake peace group
I started to write a comment in the previous thread, but, it didn’t do justice to the topic.
Plus I inadvertently lost it! Then thought, to properly respond, I was going to need a post.
Why doesn’t it surprise me that some “peace group” was promoting regime change for Turkey?
I guess the garnering of public support at the “grassroots level” had to begin sometime, somewhere- Scott caught one of these groups in action. I’m sure there are other groups in other places pushing the same nonsense. Blaming Erdogan? It’s a fashionable thing to do. Lots of fashion victims around. Especially when a bigger agenda is at play. Turkey, the nation we know today, simply has to be gotten rid of. Because wrongs have to be righted and other such stupidity that will only lead to massive death, destruction and displacement.
Loved the little clip of Joe Biden in that documentary! The problem in the region is our allies- Yup, it was them that wanted Assad gone- Not the little old USA.... Oh, no the US is all about peace, sunshine, rainbows and ponies..... Let’s blame Turkey and Saudi Arabia. And that’s exactly what Biden did! Never you mind about all the weapons the CIA was distributing at the border- Irrelevant! And those weapons that the US was shipping out of Libya? Right out of the Consulate in Benghazi? The US covered their tracks, in that instance, resulting in the death of Christopher Stevens. Good thing he was gay, because it gave the PR machine lots of opportunity to play the weaponized homosexual card while demonizing Libya, while covering up the weapons smuggling and oil deals. Yup, when life gives you lemons, you make lots and lots of lemonade. Mr Biden must have forgotten all about that. He hopes you have. But, I haven’t. And you shouldn’t either
There were a whole host of posts done on this episode-
Libya, Weapons Benghazi etc., If you want to reread or read for the first time:
- Turkey- IHH, terror and tables being turned? Part 1
- Turkey- IHH, terror and tables being turned? Pt2
- Ambassador Stevens &Gadaffi- Did they meet the same fate? Psyop film &Egypt!
Pt 1- Syria, Turkey, Jordan, Iraq etc., leading us back to Libya
- Pt 2- Libya: the deaths of Ambassador Stevens & Mr Shaaban, Seige of Bani Walid
- The Ambassadors death advances AFRICOM goals and the global war agenda
“We know the IHH is involved in arms shipments and arming mercenaries. We can connect the IHH to Benghazi and the destabilization of Libya via Turkey. We can connect the deceased Ambassador to weapons shipments, therefore we can most probably connect him to the IHH. We can connect the IHH to Syria and the arming of the rebels via Turkey by land, directly. And also with arms shipments brought to Syria from Libya. A simple reversal of the role this NGO played in the destabilization of Libya”And your reading this and thinking wait a minute Penny, the IHH is a Turkish NGO! So that proves Turkey is bad! Having written about the IHH, on more then one occasion, it's apparent they're just another scummy NGO, registered in Turkey. Operating in varying locales, but, that group has nothing to do with Erdogan what so ever.
*The IHH is not specifically close to the Erdogan government, rather it is close to the Turkish state.
*The IHH was created prior to the Erdogan government. Under PM Süleyman Demirel
*The IHH, though supposedly a Turkish NGO, is more sensibly affiliated with the global war machine, NATO as is the Turkish (deep) state.
I opened that post with this sentence
"The IHH office raid is highly suggestive to me that Erdogan is going to be shown the door."
The raid on the IHH office, like the raid on the consulate in Benghazi, were most probably done to clean up any evidence that linked the US or UK (NATO) to the arms shipments from Libya to Turkey. Evidence of their involvement in weapons smuggling etc., Underhanded oil deals. And more. Burned in a fire. Removed from a No Good Organization office that had been the conduit for NATO’s evil. And most certainly leaving Erdogan out in the cold- As I've suggested more then two years ago- Erdogan is being shown the door. This plan to blame and frame Turkey has been in action for some time now
But Joe Biden isn’t alone in the disinfo to blame and frame Turkey and Saudi Arabia
The documentary Will Loman was subjected to also mentions trash written by the granddaddy of gate keeping disinfo/half truth media- Sy Hersh! Yup, Sy Hersh. He, who, allegedly exposed the massacres in Vietnam perpetrated by the American soldiers, but, he really didn’t expose it all. He fed just enough information to the public to have them believe his version over reality. But his version was just more of the same sort of obfuscation/half truth/gate keeper stuff that Mr Hersh does very well
“Preemptive Manhunting is the new name for assassination and, according to Hersh (quoting one of his usual anonymous sources)”
Sy Hersh and his anonymous sources- Most likely non existent, but, used to give some credibility to the Sy Hersh narrative. A tidy story that’s cooked up to be spoon fed to you-
Here come’s the choochoo... Whoowhooo. Sy Hersh is good at spoon feeding drivel to the masses
I wrote an entire post on one of his splashy exposes- with the usual anonymous source
"None the less there are some interesting aspects about this Hersh obfuscation/demonization. I find the article sets up the parameters for future spin. The expose appears, at least partially, to be a preparatory narrative for the blow back meme. And likely the the non cooperation between agencies narrative can also be extracted from the piece"
It also contains, what I consider to be, the framing and blaming of a future nation to be destabilized- Saudi Arabia. And the further demonizing of Turkey. Same as we've witnessed by the likes of Mike Whitney and other alt media darlings.: Mike Whitney- Obfuscating for NATO, AGAIN! Turkey to 'annex' Syria?
Sy Hersh like Joe Biden, planting the seeds in your mind for the next two planned destabilizations- Since Turkey’s destabilization was well under way at the time I wrote “Who controls the Past, Controls the Future” I put more focus on Sy's obvious framing and blaming of Saudi Arabia, while still pointing out the lies concerning Turkey
“By then, the CIA had been conspiring for more than a year with allies in the UK, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to ship guns and goods – to be used for the overthrow of Assad – from Libya, via Turkey, into Syria. The new intelligence estimate singled out Turkey as a major impediment to Obama’s Syria policy”You see Obama just wanted to arm the good guys, but, Turkey armed the bad guys- LOL
Total lie. I took the time to find the exact statement from the individual named by Hersh. Along with the necessary context.
Hersh “Flynn warned jihadis were in control of the opposition... and it was all Turkey’s fault.”
Except Flynn did NOT blame Turkey.
The rise of ISIS was a willfull US decision:
“General Flynn dismissed Al Jazeera’s supposition that the US administration “turned a blind eye” to the DIA’s analysis. Flynn believes the US government didn’t listen to his agency on purpose.The US wanted ISIS and all the bad guys to get the guns. And they did. Because the US made it possible for them to get those weapons using Turkey and Libya, two of many conduits employed as the US led NATO war machine armed ISIS, Al Nusra etc
“I think it was a decision. I think it was a willful decision,” the former DIA chief said”
Quoting Hersh again:
Here's the blame Saudi Arabia part:
In January 2014, despairing at the lack of progress, John Brennan, the director of the CIA, summoned American and Sunni Arab intelligence chiefs from throughout the Middle East to a secret meeting in Washington, with the aim of persuading Saudi Arabia to stop supporting extremist fighters in Syria. ‘The Saudis told us they were happy to listen,’ the JCS adviser said, ‘so everyone sat around in Washington to hear Brennan tell them that they had to get on board with the so-called moderates. His message was that if everyone in the region stopped supporting al-Nusra and Isis their ammunition and weapons would dry up, and the moderates would win out.’ Brennan’s message was ignored by the Saudis, the adviser said, who ‘went back home and increased their efforts with the extremists and asked us for more technical support. And we say OK, and so it turns out that we end up reinforcing the extremists.’Just like Joe Biden- It’s Saudi Arabia’s fault. It’s Turkey’s fault. It's because of the Saudi's we ended up arming extremists- Boohoo.. see the blowback narrative being prepped?
Reinforcing a story line, on multiple levels, as you and I are prepped for the next moves
Joe Biden:“Our allies in the region were our largest problem in Syria,” he said, explaining that Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the UAE were “so determined to take down Assad,” that in a sense they started a “proxy Sunni-Shia war” by pouring “hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of thousands of tons of weapons” towards anyone who would fight against Assad.
“The outcome of such a policy now is more visible,” he said, as it turned out they supplied extremists from Al-Nusra Front and Al-Qaeda.According to Sy Hersh, Joe Biden, Mike Whitney and many other msm and alt media NATO mouthpieces Turkey and Saudi Arabia are ‘bad’. And they armed the bad guys. And they started this Sunni/Shia conflagration. Bad Turkey. Bad Saudi Arabia. And of course the US is just the poor little victim in all of this. No mention of Israel, of course.
Turkey is already under the gun- Saudi Arabia will be targeted on two fronts- One from Iraq- the other front is already active- It’s Yemen.
Both countries are so very bad. Their America's biggest problem in the region. Joe Biden plaintively states. Sy Hersh writes all about America's woes in dealing with their next targets. And grass roots 'peace' activists are making meme pushing, perception managing ,documentaries about the bad boy in the region.
Turkey has already moved from ally to enemy- Saudi Arabia has joined the naughty list.
So, yes Willy Loman it is all about framin' and blamin' these two nations for years and years of CIA/NATO interference and intentional destabilization.
I relinked this post earlier today:
"It may take a decade, but it is time to begin the countdown to the partition of Turkey. The Kurds will have their state, and its capital will ultimately be Diyarbakir, not Erbil.'
Willy Loman: That's where you and I differ on the Kurdish State. It won't be a Barzanistan.
Barzani will be gone. He has no place in the PKK/2nd Israel/NATO's Southern Front.
I had one more quotation for Willy- Couldn't find it last night regarding the one ring to rule the all PKK vs Barazani:
“The PKK is a supremely disciplined and hierarchical organization, and is neither liberal nor democratic. It does not command anywhere near unanimous support even among Turkey’s Kurds, and it poses a mortal threat to the Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq, with which it has irreconcilable visions of the Kurds’ future”That quote is from the National Interest article featured in this post;