Monday, August 15, 2016

Destabilizing Turkey:"Roll of the Dice” to Have US Nukes at Incirlik

Catchy Phrase! “Roll of the Dice”- Gamble. Risky Business.
Saw a number of news articles covering the Washington based Stimson Center’s warning. 
Additional links: here, there, and everywhere
 I would expect this new mind virus to get a whole lot of play this week coming- Perhaps starting today? The first thought that popped into my mind was Gulf War 2- George Bush Jr- Smoking gun/ mushroom cloud- Recall that?

Of course there was no smoking gun. In the form of a mushroom cloud or otherwise? Period. Bush's claim pushed up the fear levels and enabled the US to sell their war of choice.

The US can easily remove these from IncirlikPerhaps they have already? According to Stimson these nukes are useless for war making? However their presence at Incirlik, or at least the belief in their presence at Incirlik,  might be very useful from a spread terror, justify intervention, manage your perception and keep you in fear perspective?

The nukes don't have to be there, at Incirlik, you merely need to believe they are present to become inculcated with the fear

“The continued presence of dozens of U.S. nuclear weapons at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey raises serious risks of their seizure by terrorists and other hostile forces, a new report by the nonpartisan Stimson Center finds. The report titled B61 Life Extension Program: Costs and Policy Considerations, found that it was an “unanswerable question,” whether the U.S. could have maintained control of the approximately 50 B61 nuclear weapons based at Incirlik during a protracted civil conflict in Turkey
Hasn't the media been warning us about how it is Turkey is going to have a protracted civil conflict? Why yes, yes, they have. Example: WaPo :The growing risk of civil war in Turkey
"During the failed July 15 coup attempt, power to Incirlik Air Base was cut off and the Turkish government prohibited U.S. aircraft from flying in or out. Eventually, the Incirlik base commander was arrested and implicated in the coup plot. The report’s findings come exactly one month after the failed coup attempt and on the heels of a milestone earlier this month authorizing the production and engineering phase of the B61 Life Extension Program. 
From a security point of view, it’s a roll of the dice to continue to have approximately 50 of America’s nuclear weapons stationed at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, just 70 miles from the Syrian border,said report co-author Laicie Heeley, a fellow with the Budgeting for Foreign Affairs and Defense program at the Stimson Center. “These weapons have zero utility on the European battlefield and today are more of a liability than asset to our NATO allies.”

The United States first deployed tac-tical nuclear bombs in Europe during the Cold War in the late 1950s and early 1960s, to offset a buildup of Soviet tank armies deployed in Eastern Europe. Although most U.S. tactical weapons were withdrawn from Europe during the early 1990s, 180 of the tactical versions of the B61s remain at six bases in Europe — in Belgium, Italy, Germany, the Netherlands, and Turkey.

The report recommends the immediate removal of all B61 nuclear weapons from Europe and cancelling the procurement of B61s that would be stored in Europe

“These bombs are ill-suited for modern warfare and incredibly costly,” said report co-author Barry Blechman, co-founder of the Stimson Center. “The smart move would be to remove these weapons from Europe and double down to strengthen conventional forces that actually protect our NATO allies.”
Founded in 1989, the Stimson Center is a nonprofit, nonpartisan think tank devoted to addressing transnational challenges in order to enhance global peace and economic prosperity.

Yet another NATO global military ‘think tank.
Simple enough solution to this problem- Remove the weapons. If that has not already been done.

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  1. It can't be a coincidence that Kerry is going to Turkey and we're getting this fear story about insecure nukes at Incirlik can it?

    Doesn't seem plausible... I really wonder now what Kerry and Mr Biden are going to have to say when they get to Turkey?
    Should be interesting? Kerry to Turkey in a couple of days..

    mentioned in the comments section of some previous post here
    easy enough to find in a news search

    I'll add a link to the above post!

  2. I didn't bring the link but there is a story out there today. Fear or a false flag event?

    Starting to split wood today, winter coming.

    1. hey jo
      i think that the pentagon news is keeping this going for a reason

      yah, winter will be here soon enough :)

  3. You should have a look at this:
    Oh, I love this girl!

  4. I wrote this to a Turk here. They need to get rid of the nukes because the US will use it as an excuse for an overt attack on Turkey. Here is Katheons take on the issue.

    I'm afraid that Erdogan and his AKP village idiots aren't up to the task of saving Turkey.
    They apparently denied Russia the right to use their airspace & bases for their upcoming major offensive in Syria. So, Russia is now using Hamedan in Iran as their base. This was a golden opertunity, & Turkey blew it.
    Russia is now bombing Al-Bab, a city YPG is preparing an offensive against.
    Well done, Erdogan!

    1. Hi Rescue: If the nukes aren't gone, already- Turkey should do what they can to encourage the US to remove them.
      but what would be involved in accomplishing this?
      I haven't a clue?
      from katehon:

      "All of these serious steps will be difficult to take"

      I'm sure of that, but, what would be involved exactly?
      I've no clue about protocols surrounding bases like Incirlik. Which is not really a Turkish base, though it is used by the Turks.
      If anyone can enlighten me that would be great! :)

    2. I read those nukes are really 'obsolete' what ever that means, but they are a hold card for the US for sure. ?possibly? the use of Iran base was already set up / and possibly Turkey has it's hands full right now w/ several large scale issues. They also are low staffed with so many people being relieved of duty and or under investigation.
      just guesses mind you.

      The columnist I read sometimes at H-daily news in Turkey has a long timeline sensitive article on kurds factions

      The Manbij timeline: Call it a coincidence

      I have to save it to read in full later.
      I feel that both Russia and Iran and even possibly Iraq and Syria would feel better off trying to support Turkey right now than seeing it go 'helter skelter' which would be disastrous to the Meddle East ?

  5. Hi,

    first time I read that Russia flies strategic bomber mission from Iran airfield

    The airbase is Hamadan in the west of Iran, this reduces the missions distance from the airport to only 700 km, before it was 2000 km.
    Interesting development.

    1. I should mention that in my newest post, cause it is an interesting development
      thanks for reminding me!

  6. Incirlik is a Turkish base, not a US or NATO one, they have juristiction over it. Therefore they can invite any country to use it.
    I read that the US had moved them, at Turkeys request, to Bulgaria, but that it hasn't announced yet, because of the legality of it all.
    Source was dubious.