Wednesday, August 24, 2016

Operation Euphrates Shield To Continue Until YPG Retreats.

Daily Sabah: Quoting PM Yildirim
The operation led by Turkey to liberate Syria's Jarablus from Daesh terrorists will continue until elements of the PKK's Syrian affiliate YPG retreats to the east bank of Euphrates, Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım said on Wednesday.
Speaking at a live interview on Habertürk TV shortly after meeting U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, Yıldırım said that it is necessary to cleanse Jarablus of terrorist PKK-affiliated groups including the PYD and YPG.
"This was a pledge, a guarantee of the U.S." Yıldırım said.
US Promise to Turkey mentioned here: ***Turkey: US to Keep Manbij Promise? 3 Step Road Map: Assad Stays. Cooperating with Iran & More

Perhaps the US promise to Turkey was an empty one? Made to Turkey while plotting a coup and assuming a successful overthrow? A promise made that the US had no intention of keeping.

He continued by saying that the timing of the operation has nothing to do with KRG President Masoud Barzani or U.S. Vice President Joe Biden's visit to Turkey.
Yıldırım also said that it is necessary to protect Syria's territorial integrity and that it would be a disaster if all ethnic groups wanted to establish their own state.
"The situation would be worse than today if every single ethnic group established a state" he said, adding that Turkey is already paying the price of the conflict in Syria by hosting over three million Syrians and that it is necessary for these people to return to a normal life as soon as possible.
 Clearly the operation has nothing to do with ISIS despite the perhaps 'face saving' US spin?


I'll certainly have more to say tomorrow :) 

From today's previous post : Syria Shifts Stance Toward Kurds? No. Only Media Narrative Shifted
" ......Turkey will change course in Syria as he no longer needs Kurds as electoral allies and that even before the Syrian conflict, Turkey and the Syrian government were in agreement over the Kurdish issue"
Even before the Syrian conflict Turkey and the Syrian government were in agreement over the Kurdish issue...


  1. Or maybe Turkey wants to show Russia it can be trusted (sure) and give back the region to Syria. Kurds lose all the way around.

    Then again WTF do I know;)

    1. Lots of possibilities here jo- that's for sure

  2. That O buzz word I hate ( and everyone starts using)

    Erdogan confirms Syrian opposition fully controls border town of Jarablus

    I was gone all day doing errands and came back to that.
    I have the same amount of trust in turks as jews


      But doing so opens up another problem touched on in this article.

      "Yet the X-51, even if it is brought into mass production, will not solve the problems it was designed to handle, since the prospective Russian S-500 anti-aircraft missile system is expected to be capable of destroying hypersonic missiles." Tuchkov "

      Presumably the Russians learned something when their first fighter violated Turkey border after an avoidance maneuver from unidentified SAM lock....

      The no-fly-zone is one thing, enforcing it is another and doing so brings its own risks - think Iron Dome reported versus speculated success rates

    2. Absolutely true. They are playing both sides against the middle.

    3. Charles: They are playing both sides??
      Who is they? Can you clarify? Are you thinking Turkey?
      Russia? Or the US?
      PS: I cleared out your extra comments :)

    4. thanks anonymous

      "The no-fly-zone is one thing, enforcing it is another and doing so brings its own risks - think Iron Dome reported versus speculated success rates"

      I'll keep that in mind

    5. I was referencing Turkey. For the US, duplicity is standard operating proceedure.

    6. thanks charles: I expect duplicity is standard for all...

  3. Hi penny, just a little heads up re the spider waiting and watching as Charles alluded to a few posts ago in the comments.

    IDF are investing in massive wheeled armoured vehicles. That means they expect to travel far and fast on available prepared surfaces. You can only do that after all the local opposition has gone. I.e. dead. So the turmoil is designer turmoil to kill off everyone and especially all organised opposition and in the chaos there will be no qualifiable targets.

    In Australia the US and partners are currently working on GPS free C4I. That means the LEO sats are likely to be toast soon if it goes to plan, and the plan is pre 1914.

    RCE/TA thrives on dark ages, their founders came from the CHEKA infested USSR and CHEKA trained GESTAPO Germany after all.

    1. thanks incoming!!
      Keep me updated and if you have a link for these new IDF vehicles, can you leave it? I've not read this anywhere..

  4. ?
    Turkey has shown its disaffection for America

    The Romanian fellow there makes the same assertion

    1. I do not agree with the analysis you reference at Katehon. It seems, imho certainly non-expert, there is cooperation between parties occurring including possibly Russia. Let's wait and see.

    2. ty karin:
      I'll read it, I'm playing catch up

  5. did you see MoA blog has gotten back to his Erdogan bashing ways? There's a link on my new article to his new post. It's in the update section. Can't teach old dogs new tricks I suppose

  6. So, its clear the US has conned Turkey. Kerry told the Turkish foreign minister that YPG/SDF were withdrawing from Manbij. Clearly they aren't, they are continuing fast ahead to conect cantons, that could only be done with US support.
    Either Turkey should invade Azaz (with their own military, not jihadi vermin) and right across the ISIS pocket with overwhealming force, or they should withdraw.

    Just read the US states YPG can't withdraw because there are still ISIS remnants in Manbij. Just goes to prove my point.