Saturday, April 14, 2018

Swiss lab says ‘BZ toxin’ used in Salisbury, not produced in Russia, was in US & UK service

This news should NOT go unnoticed in the aftermath of the terror trio strike on Syria.
And please read straight through to the very end- because the substance used in the Skripal incident, according to the Swiss lab, may connect back to the false flag chemical incidents in Syria.

The substance used on Sergei Skripal was an agent called BZ, according to Swiss state Spiez lab, the Russian foreign minister said. The toxin was never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states. 
The Swiss center sent the results to the OPCW. However, the UN chemical watchdog limited itself only to confirming the formula of the substance used to poison the Skripals in its final report without mentioning anything about the other facts presented in the Swiss document, the Russian foreign minister added. He went on to say that Moscow would ask the OPCW about its decision to not include any other information provided by the Swiss in its report.

The Swiss center mentioned by Lavrov is the Spiez Laboratory controlled by the Swiss Federal Office for Civil Protection and ultimately by the country’s defense minister. The lab is also an internationally recognized center of excellence in the field of the nuclear, biological, and chemical protection and is one of the five centers permanently authorized by the OPCW.
 A bit of background on BZ- It's not deadly, it's highly intoxicating

  • *BZ was invented by the Swiss pharmaceutical company Hoffman-LaRoche in 1951
  • *At this time the United States military investigated it along with a wide range of possible nonlethal, psychoactive incapacitating agents 
  • *By 1959 the United States Army showed significant interest in deploying it as a chemical warfare agent.[2] It was originally designated "TK", but when it was standardized by the Army in 1961 it received the NATO code name "BZ"
  • *The U.S. Army tested BZ as well as other "psycho-chemical" agents on human subjects at Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland from 1955 to 1975, according to declassified documents.[13][14]
  • Mechanism of action

  • *The characteristic that makes BZ an incapacitating rather than a toxic chemical warfare agent is its high safety margin (ICt50/LCt50) of around 40-fold (range 32 to 384 fold). It has an ID50 of 0.00616 mg per person (i.v.) with a probit slope of 9.2. The respiratory ICt50 (median incapacitating dosage) for BZ is 110 mg·min/m³ (mild activity—15 l/min rate of breathing), whereas the LCt50 is often estimated to be around 3,800–41,300 mg·min/m³.[17]
  • Detection and protection

  • *BZ is odorless and nonirritating with delayed symptoms several hours after contact.[1]
 Let's go back to some of the false flag chemical attacks in Syria
In January 2013, an unidentified U.S. administration official, referring to an undisclosed U.S. State Department cable, claimed that "Syrian contacts made a compelling case that Agent 15, a hallucinogenic chemical similar to BZ,[9] was used in Homs".[10]
However, in response to these reports U.S. National Security Council spokesman stated "The reporting we have seen from media sources regarding alleged chemical weapons incidents in Syria has not been consistent with what we believe to be true about the Syrian chemical weapons program".[8][11] The chemical was also allegedly used in the August 2013 Ghouta attacks.[12]
The claim by the US National Security Council is interesting- In a nutshell they are saying since Syria didn't have Agent 15/BZ that the chemical weapons attack could not have been conducted with this substance-  

BUT, that's an obfuscation,  with the built in assumption that the Assad government was the perpetrator. The reality being if the Usrael backed rebels had been given or provided with this substance, they could have used it themselves to create a false flag chemical attack scenario to blame on the Assad government. BZ could explain the incapacitation seen in many of the videos- along with the difficulty breathing.

Updating with some additional information on the 2013 Homs BZ attack:

The State Department is publicly discounting claims made by its own diplomats about a chemical weapons attack in Syria.
But less than a day later, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland has denied the report, (and that the chemical attack even occurred) saying that the Foreign Policy story ”did not accurately convey the anecdotal information that we had received from a third party regarding an alleged incident in Syria in December.”
 Victoria Nuland “At the time we looked into the allegations that were made and the information that we had received, and we found no credible evidence to corroborate or to confirm that chemical weapons were used,” she added.
And the incident was summarily dismissed.  But was it anecdotal? Of course I can't say because that's a loaded judgement call that could be employed for any number of reasons. One of the reasons I've mentioned for this potentially be discounted as anecdotal is because this was NOT a chemical weapon known to have been in Syria's arsenal. Read on

“We can’t definitely say 100 percent, but Syrian contacts made a compelling case that Agent 15 (BZ) was used in Homs on Dec. 23,” an unnamed U.S. official tells Rogin.
Agent 15 is similar to 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate or BZ, a powerful hallucinogen that the American military tested out on its own soldiers during the Cold War. Its emergence on the Syrian battlefield would be nothing short of bizarre. While Syria is well-known to have a massive supply of chemical weapons, international observers haven’t ordinarily included BZ on that list
Telegraph January 2013

The White House's doubt may relate to the fact that Syria's known chemical weapons stocks include substances like sarin and VX which are far more deadly than Agent 15. The State Department made clear it believes those stocks are still secure.
Again BZ/Agent 15 NOT in Syria- However, go back to Wired for this bit of information
Over the years, there have been rumors of BZ being used on a battlefield — including one that Iraqi insurgents were dosing themselves with the drug to pump up their aggressiveness
So we have reports of BZ as NATO calls it, in the hands of Iraqi "insurgents".... And we know Iraqi insurgents passed into Syria. And it appears BZ was used in two infamous 'chemical attacks' in Syria- Homs and Ghouta.   I have to conclude that BZ was most probably employed by the Usrael backed rebels, then denied by the US so they couldn't be connected to the chemical intoxicants use.

Update on the use of BZ in Ghouta: 

August 2013: 

Some opposition activists say the toxin used may have been "Agent 15," also known as BZ. Its full name is 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate, and it affects both the peripheral and central nervous systems.
The opposition claimed that BZ was used in tank shells fired in the city of Homs last December.

So ends the update on the BZ as it applies to the Skripals and it's use in Syria for rebel perpetrated attacks/false flags. The BZ definitely belonged to the UK/Usrael backed rebels

It's been a busy couple of days so don't miss these posts from just yesterday

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Russia accuses UK of organizing alleged Syria gas attack

Fake Democracy: How Washington Destroyed Russia and Poland



  1. Way to go, Penny! I've posted a "Bulletin" in my sidebar with a link to your post.

  2. Hi Penny, nice article thanks. I don’t know you or anything about you, can I politely ask how I can be sure that you are not a source of fake news? What are your sources? Apologies, don’t mean to offend but I’m just very cautious about anything on the net.

    1. Hi Unknown:
      All the sources are embedded in the post itself- Just move the mouse over and the links will highlight themselves. I am going to be updating asap with additional information and links.

      And I have my own fairly stringent standards...
      Hope that helps?

  3. Hi all:

    I've updated the post with 3 additional external links regarding the use of BZ in Syria

    1. Make that another update with yet another link!

  4. Of course I absolutely believe Lavrov when he says the Swiss analysed the sample and found BZ. When I looked at the symptomology the passing out for four days but then recovering. That makes "Jacob's Ladder" effect.

    But Lavrov and the rest of us are down the rabbit hole now. Whether it's BZ or a piece of mushroom [like the caterpillar enticed Alice with] it will all be lost in a media frenzy of distraction and disinformation. Can you imagine what it must be like to live in the matrix and be inundated with all the preposterous lies...without the sanity of the alternate blogosphere?

    1. Can you imagine what it must be like to live in the matrix and be inundated with all the preposterous lies...without the sanity of the alternate blogosphere?

      GC: I can't imagine ever going back to that kind of existence- Not ever

  5. Hi Penny:

    I ran across that link I referred to the other day about Erdogan supporting the attack on Syria. Do you think it was just a salve to the West? Or is he trying to walk both sides of the fence?

    1. Hey Greencrow!

      I read it and I notice all the out of context quoting- I detest that kind of stuff oh so very much!


      “the message that its massacres wouldn’t be left unanswered.”

      “the innocent Syrian people should have been defended long ago.”

      So those are out of context- no idea what he'd said prior to or after those quotes

      Additionally I see he is addressing his political party- so he's talking to his party- I don't think it a salve to the west or walking both sides of the fence- Erdogan is a politician and he's appealing to his audience. He's looking like a leader to his followers- I'm going to see if I can find the full quotes from that meeting.
      I'm a stickler for context :)

  6. I think Trump might have been Brainwashed, by CIA or CERN, with their Goddess of Destruction. NGy

    1. :)
      I guess anything is possible?
      I like the CERN reference in particular- cultish type stuff mixed with science- shakes head
      maybe that tells us something about science as it's commonly presented?

  7. always interesting stuff here, one of the best and most informative blogs.