Thursday, July 5, 2018

U.K. confronts Russia after couple is poisoned by same nerve agent used in Skripal attack

Actual headline from NBC above
LONDON — Tests on two Britons found unconscious in their home determined that they were poisoned by the same nerve agent used against a former Russian spy and his daughter earlier this year, British police said Wednesday.
The discovery triggered new security precautions in the area of Amesbury, England, where the couple were sickened.
The town is seven miles from Salisbury, where former double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter were (ALLEGEDLY) poisoned with the military-grade nerve agent Novichok in March. The British government blamed Russia for the attack. Moscow has repeatedly denied any involvement.
Friends and investigators identified the victims as Dawn Sturgess, 44, and Charlie Rowley, 45, who remained in critical condition early Thursday.

Counterterrorism police have taken over the investigation, and authorities acknowledged that the test results would fuel speculation about whether the two poisoning incidents were linked.
"However, I must say that we are not in a position to say whether the nerve agent was from the same batch that the Skripals were exposed to," Neil Basu, assistant commissioner of specialist operations for London Metropolitan Police, said in a statement. "The possibility that these two investigations might be linked is clearly a line of inquiry for us."
Home Secretary Sajid Javid — Britain's interior minister — said in an address to Parliament on Thursday that the incident would "obviously... invoke memories of the reckless murder attempts of Sergei and Yulia Skripal earlier this year."
Javid continued: "The eyes of the world are currently on Russia, not least because of the World Cup. It is now time that the Russian state comes forward and explains exactly what has gone on."
"We do not have a quarrel with the Russian people. Rather it is the actions of the Russian government that continue to undermine our security and that of the international community."
"We will stand up to the actions that threaten our security, and the security of our partners. It is completely unacceptable for our people to be deliberate or accidental targets, or for our streets, our parks, our towns to be dumping grounds for poison," he said.

Sturgess and Rowley were found unconscious at separate times in the same home on Saturday. Investigators initially suspected that they had overdosed on heroin or cocaine, but after observing their symptoms ─ police didn't describe them ─ authorities took samples for lab testing. Those tests came back positive for Novichok, Basu said.
He added that no one else had reported falling ill with similar symptoms.
Investigators are now focusing on how and where Burgess and Rowley came into contact with Novichok, Basu said.
Weird isn't that? Found unconscious at separate times in the same home? How was it each of them was  found? Who notified authorities of the second victim, if there was no one else in the home? 
I'm betting these two did OD on drugs and the authorities are spinning this for political reasons- The two individuals are in Salisbury- not far from where the Skripals lived and very close to Britain's premiere chemical weapons facility at Porton Down.
Might be easy enough to leave damaging 'evidence' in the home of a couple of drug addicts....
As a "precautionary measure," police cordoned off sites in the Amesbury and Salisbury areas that they believe the two visited just before they were sickened, Basu said.
"I do want to reassure the public, however, that there is no evidence that either the man or woman recently visited any of the sites that were decontaminated following the attempted murders of Sergei and Yulia Skripal," Basu said.
A video from the guardian:

Conveniently, just last week, the OPCW was given the power to assign blame, at the insistence of Britian/US. And as luck (facetious) would have it.......

OPCW Given Power to “Assign Blame”- They Don't Need No Stinkin' Evidence!

 Related :

'cause history repeats...

Charlie Wilson's War Redux- Sen.Lindsey Graham Goes to US/PKK Occupied Manbij


  1. Let's just hope that those dastardly Russians don't conduct a more broad-based attack with their '10 times more deadly than VX' Novichok nerve agent. Otherwise thousands more of us poor Brits may be made poorly for a few days

  2. the authorities in the west dont just think the public is this stupid, they know they are.
    on another note Penny here on the atlantic island near my off grid home we got snow one day and near 40 degree 2 days later freeze to sweat. earth tilt poll shift anyone.

    1. `the authorities in the west dont just think the public is this stupid, they know they are.`

      I would agree with that they know the vast majority of them are-

      thanks for the update wrt eastern Canada
      saw there had been snow- it was cooler her too
      and then this week, it`s been hot, hot, hot
      no records broken in these parts, nothing like that
      were headed for the cool down tomorrow

      earth tilt, poll shift?
      i know the polls have shifted but what about the earth tilt?

  3. What was in that video that made Utube take it offline?

    1. Hey Greg- not a clue, seriously.
      It was from the guardian.
      So it had to have been very sanitized already

    2. Greg: a clip from the removed video can still be found online- it's of the police claiming the presence of novichuk

      what else was in that video was the ambulance attendants removing the male victim- taking no precautions about his removal- which now seems weird because I'm pretty sure he was the second victim in this case- wondering at what point they decided it was novichuk?
      If it was with the first victim then why no special suits to remove the victim
      they also had a spectator who was talking about watching the removal of the first and second alleged victims.. which if you were thinking novichuk- wouldn't this person not be talking to the media? Wouldn't there be a potential for exposure

      the victim on the stretcher had an mask over his face. oxygen? I don't know
      but that's what was in the video that has been removed. That I can recall.

    3. Greg et al:

      I checked and yes the woman was the first alleged victim, so, if they had discerned Novichuk then why several hours later was the second victim taken away in an ambulance out in the open with no special precautions- including the presence of bystanders

      "On Saturday, paramedics were called twice to a flat in Muggleton Road in Amesbury - first at 11:00 BST after Ms Sturgess collapsed.

      Medics attended again several hours later, after Mr Rowley also fell ill."

      Perhaps that's why the video was removed?