Monday, September 17, 2018

No Idlib Offensive- Russia & Turkey Agree Joint Patrols & Demilitarized Zone


Putin talking to Erdogan ahead of his meeting: 
"Our relations are developing dynamically and positively. It can be said about our trade and economic ties, which are growing rapidly. It can be said about our security cooperation, especially within the region, on the international arena in a broad sense of the word," he said. "There are a lot of problems, some of them being very difficult. I am glad to see you not only to exchange views on the entire range of problems but also to try to find solutions where there are none as of yet."
 Putin clearly stating that on several fronts Turkey and Russian relations were growing dynamically and positively. On some fronts they had problems that they were trying to work out.

This story has since been updated and the statement below is gone now- No matter I'd saved the quote :

 Find it in the comments section here: PennySeptember 17, 2018 at 9:39 AM
“The statement which we will make after the meeting in Sochi will contain new hope for the region,” Erdogan said through an interpreter. He gave no indication of what would be in the statement. 
 Which I found interesting and indicative that a deal had previously been worked out between the Astana partners. Pay attention to that fact that Erdogan is talking about a solution for the region.

Earliest reporting that I've seen so far:

Russia and Turkey will create a buffer zone of 15-20 kilometres wide between rebels and Syrian government forces by 15 of October

Erdogan & Putin in Sochi September 17/18

 Recall my reporting of this possibility in this previous post?

In yesterday's post I'd entertained the idea that there was a deal in place:

"Russia said on Monday that there will be no new military operation against Syria's Idlib by the Syrian government forces and their allies after president Vladimir Putin met with Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
The two leaders, who back opposing sides in Syria’s seven-year war, came together in an ad hoc meeting in the Russian resort city of Sochi as tensions over the fate of rebel-held Idlib province ratchet up.
They have signed a memorandum on the stabilisation of Syria's Idlib city to prevent an offensive by the Syrian government forces that would lead to scores of casualties of civilians.
The Syrian government, backed by Russian air power, appeared recently to be poised to stage an assault on the last major opposition bastion, which is also home to thousands of hardline militants.
Putin said that they agreed with Turkey to create a demilitarised zone of 15-20 kilometres wide between rebels and Syrian government forces by 15 of October.
Russian and Turkish forces will patrol the demilitarised zone.
Radical rebel groups, including Al-Nusra Front, will withdraw from the zone, and heavy weapons held by Syrian rebels in Idlib city should be handed over by October 10.
This approach, Putin said, is supported by the Syrian government of Bashar Al-Assad.
Translation: Our wish in Turkey and Russia is to solve the Syrian crisis according to the UN Security Council resolution 2254. We will keep our cooperation to achieve this goal.

Turkey's president Erdogan said that his country will carry out coordinated patrols in the demilitarised zone in Idlib with the Russians. 
He said that the biggest threat to Turkey is the Kurdish movement of People's Protection Units (YPG) rather than Idlib. Turkey considers the YPG as a terrorist organisation.

Yielding results

Erdogan and Putin met 10 days ago in Tehran alongside Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, where the Turkish leader publicly called for a ceasefire.
The situation in Idlib has been calm for three days. It looks like we obtained a result with the efforts which were made
- President Recep Tayyip Erdogan
Turkish daily Hurriyet on Monday quoted Erdogan as saying he believed his words in the Iranian capital had had a positive effect.
"The situation in Idlib has been calm for three days. It looks like we obtained a result with the efforts which were made," the newspaper quoted the president as telling reporters on a flight back from Azerbaijan at the weekend. "But we are still not satisfied.”
 "Let's all take steps, measures together against the terror groups among the opposition in Idlib," Erdogan said according to Hurriyet. "But let's not create an excuse and take a step like bombing there."


  1. You are doing great Penny.
    After the war in Syria is over we go deal with the liberation of Palestine.

    1. Thanks Unknown:
      Nice to be appreciated.:)

      Not sure if you are a participant at Syrian Perspective?

      And have seen the absurd troll circus on parade under the big top as they march on with their shill band playing.
      Cause you know I can see in on Erdogan's dreams
      And I'm paid by Erdogan
      And I love Erdogan

      roflmao- Trolls always resort to adhominem attacks- cause what else do they have. It's always a battle for the mind. Yes, readers here that's what passes as informed comment at Syrian Perspective. And it's a shame. I like Ziad - Always have. He has his home country in his heart- what's not to like about that?

      Most commenters don't appear to even read what he writes- which is sad :(

      I called this most recent situation in Idlib, back in August, correctly because I look at the regional situation as well as the situation specific to Syria.

      That's what makes the difference in my analysis.
      I put a ton of thought into what I write here.
      Research. Reading. Talking to my husband, who is my sounding board and my greatest supporter :)

      At Syper, which is heavily loaded with zio trolls, they don't really ever mention the Israeli expansion- the creation of Kurdistan as an anglo zionist project- for greater Israel- The planned destruction of 4 existing nations Iran, Turkey, Syria and Iraq along with all the bloodshed that entails- Because too large a portion of the participants are, sad to say, shills for the agenda.

      I've never been a shill for that agenda- I want to see these nations co exist and continue to exist. War is horrific. And these nations need suffer no more bloodshed so some other party can reshape the globe to suit some bizarre agenda- These are real human lives at stake.
      Not to speak of the environmental degradations and abhorrent waste of resources

      I began advocating years ago, here, for a regional solution- Finally when Astana 3 came to fruition it seemed that which I had hoped would happen had come to pass. A regional solution. Connecting the two most powerful nations in the region, Turkey and Iran, with an ally who could work with them- Russia- It’s not a match made in heaven. But if they can work it out. It’s better then more and more killing and destruction

      Thanks again Unknown!

  2. I've updated the post with a couple of articles out this morning before the Putin/Erdogan meeting.

    Do expect the regime change promoters on line to be spinning about Erdogan.. It'll happen

  3. Hi Penny:
    Putin has neatly prevented the white helmets from using their CW false flag(s). You can't claim the Syrian government has dropped chemical weapons from an airplane if there are no airplanes dropping anything. The countries that have been preparing to respond to a CW attack by the Syrian government might be annoyed by this agreement.

    1. Yes
      Russia and Turkey's agreement on Idlib serves multiple purposes- more then just the fake chem attack

      It also prevented the attack the US was after should Syria begin, at all to take back Idlib.

      I suspect this arrangement may have been the reason for the combined french/israeli coalition attacks on Syria

      what a disappointment for the agenda!

    2. Yes Penny

      Fully agree that Erdogan and Putin played this very strategically with all things considered.

    3. Hi Abdullah- Yah, it was a deal that had to be done.

      some find it distasteful, but, reality it was necessary

  4. Question is what Erdogan is bringing to the table.Russian MH17 disclosure post reports of US and Canada special forces in country following assassination. Will Erdogan go after the Patriarch?

    Then this...

    Russia’s Il-20 military aircraft with 14 servicemen on board disappeared over the Mediterranean Sea, an official with Russia’s Defense Ministry told reporters on Tuesday.

    The plane went off the radar while F-16 fighters of the Israeli Air Force attacked targets in the Syrian province of Latakia, the fate of the Russian military is unknown, the official said.

    "On September 17, at about 11:00 Moscow time, the connection with the crew of the Russian Il-20 aircraft was lost over the Mediterranean Sea when the plane was returning to the airbase of Khmeimim, 35 kilometers from the coast of Syria," the official said.

    The ministry specified that "the mark of IL-20 went off the radars disappeared during the attack of four Israeli F-16 aircraft on Syrian targets in the province of Latakia.


    1. anonymous:
      this reference to US and Canadian special forces in country following assassination- didn't see it on my quick scan of the tass link
      saw the shootdown and will be talking about it today.
      and writing about it as well

    2. Alleged hour long attack. Ew supression. French frigate? Like the 25dec16 black sea crash en route to syria during peak aleppo. Same ship? Or the metrojet downng during blue flag. Egypt and ua joint exercises through 20sep.