Sunday, October 7, 2018

Missing "journalist" Jamal Khashoggi? Or Arms Trader Like Namesake Adnan Khashoggi?

: one that has the same name as another especially : one who is named after another or for whom another is named 

Example:  His grandson and namesake is the spit and image of him … —Robert Graves
  I'm being completely honest here, if Jamal Khashoggi is a journalist, in the sense of a real muckracker, I'd be shocked.  It's very plain to me that journalism is often a cover for other dealings. Journalists as spies is well known. Marie Colvin comes to mind.  How about journalism giving a cover of legitimacy for arms dealing? Why not? 
Jamal Khashoggi like his namesake Adnan Khashoggi might just be wearing two hats?

One hat, a journalist, generally accepted as legitimate. Definitely necessary for the illusion of freedom to be perpetuated. 

The other hat, arms trader, while illegal,  just as necessary for the illusion of freedom to be presented.  After all aren't wars mostly presented as 'fights for "freedom"? 

Clearly, arms traders give governments a hands off means to provide weapons for covert operations? While enriching the military industrial complex at the same time? Again, feeding into this illusion of what government's and their agencies are or are not involved in. 

Who was Adnan Khashoggi?

 Adnan was one of the biggest arms dealers of his day. Connected to the Iran - Contra Scandal, Imelda Marcos. Margaret Thatcher. And  lots of whores. (As one main stream news article reported)

He died in 2017. 

At the bottom of this report I'll include some additional persons connected to Adnan Khashoggi. 

More important to this specific it seems quite possible that Adnan is father to Jamal. If not father and son, definitely related. That’s how it looks to me based on the digging I’ve done. 
Wish I could verify with certainty, but, I can’t seem to find adequate enough information regarding Jamal’s genetic lineage. 

Which is a pretty significant fact in and of itself. Right? Interviewed Osama Bin Laden. 
Hailed from Saudi elite classes. A world renowned journalist.  Yet, his bio is really lacking!

UPDATE October 8/2018: Not only did Jamal interview Osama Bin Laden- He spent 7 years traveling with him! 

"A PROMINENT Saudi journalist who conducted several interviews with Osama bin Laden and once tried to persuade him to reconcile with the Saudi royal family has resigned as editor of the nation's leading newspaper.
Khashoggi could not be reached for comment.
He (Khashoggi) interviewed and travelled with Bin Laden at times between 1987 and 1995, including in Afghanistan where he wrote about the battle against the Soviets.
In the early 1990s, he also tried to persuade Bin Laden to reconcile with the Saudi royal family and return home from his base in Sudan, but the al-Qaeda leader refused"
That's a whole different ball of wax isn't it? Jamal Khashoggi traveling with Bin Laden.
Over a period spanning years. Just like the earlier mentioned Marie Colvin- Travellin' round with terrorists! From nation to nation.

 If we consider the possibility of Jamal and Adnan being blood. Possibly being father and son. And having all the 'right connections".... In the arms dealing underworld that is?
 With ties to Osama Bin Laden who undoubtedly used the services of covert arms traffickers!
 This likelihood opens up  many more questions about this "journalist". Why he was in Turkey? Was he involved in some kind of dealings that took him to the consulate having nothing to do with getting a marriage license? This whole marriage license narrative doesn't sit right? Why didn't Jamal just visit the consulate in the US if he felt threatened to enter such a place. He surely would have had more guarantees from the US, since Jamal resides in the US, allegedly in self imposed exile- Just like the CIA's Gulen in Pennsylvania.  Also, Living in self imposed exile.

Lack of biographical information at his wiki page.

Early life and education

Khashoggi was born in Madinah in 1958.[1] He received elementary and secondary education in Saudi Arabia. He obtained a bachelor's degree in business administration from Indiana State University in 1982.[1][10][11]

No mother. No father. No family. That's his bio as it appears at wiki!
That's bothersome!  Had some person/s added more to his biographical information.. which was later removed by wikipedia? That's certainly not unheard of particularly for persons of wealth and influence who may not want certain connections made between themselves and others. Unwanted attention and all that!

However Jamal bears an uncanny resemblance to Adnan-

Jamal Khashoggi- journalist?

Adnan Khasshogi


*When we go to this wiki page- Khashoggi surnames

  • Adnan Khashoggi (1935-2017), Saudi businessman, son of Muhammad Khashoggi
  • Emad Khashoggi (born 1968), Saudi businessman, grandson of Muhammad Khashoggi
  • Jamal Khashoggi (1958-2018 ?), Saudi journalist, grandson of Muhammad Khashoggi

Jamal Khashoggi's grandfather is Adnan Khashoggi's father- We have family lineage!
Though that information is not included in Jamal's wiki bio. 

Adnan had a slew of children. Two numbers are reported- 6 and 8. 

The one child that gets repeated mention is his only daughter-

  • Nabila Khashoggi, (born 1962), American businesswoman, actress, and philanthropist, daughter of Adnan Khashoggi
There were claims of  a second daughter, but, I saw reports that Adnan was not the sugar daddy of that child as paternity tests proved.
Who are the others? All of them reported to be male? Seems to be a secret? Why? 
 Perhaps they don’t want their names sullied by their father’s  reputation, though they are all OK with their shares of his wealth undoubtedly? Or should I say... his blood money.

IF Jamal Khashoggi's father is Adnan- And I do believe he is. Adnan was about 23 years old when Jamal was born. 
Background on Adnan- Whoremonger and Arms Dealer

    Born in Mecca, Saudi Arabia in 1935, Khashoggi was the son of the personal physician to the then ruler Abdul Aziz al-Saud. He used those royal connections to act as a broker to companies wanting to access a market awash with oil money. He arranged arms sales with British, French and US weapons makers, which helped him amass a fortune that at its peak was estimated at £2.4bn.
Remember Jamal the “journalist” was born in Madinah, Saudi Arabia

    Khashoggi, who has died at the age of 82, was implicated in the Iran-Contra affair, acting as middleman in the secret sale of weapons by the US government to Iran when it was supposed to be under an arms embargo so the cash could be funnelled to rightwing militants in Nicaragua.

    Following his arrest in Switzerland he was extradited to the US in 1989 to face trial charged with helping Imelda Marcos, the former first lady of the Philippines, plunder millions of dollars from the country
"The Sunday Times quoted Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi as saying that Mark Thatcher's value to the Saudis during the negotiation was that he could go to his mother and get an answer to any question they raised.
The arms deal in which Mark Thatcher was reported to have been involved concerned the sale of $30 billion worth of jet fighters, naval mine-hunters and ammunition to Saudi Arabia. At the time, it was called "the arms deal of the century" by the British media"
Adnan Khashoggi had the ear of Prime Minister Thatcher through her son Mark ( who suddenly grew very rich)

"The Washington Post has printed a blank column in support of its missing Saudi contributor Jamal Khashoggi.
Mr Khashoggi - a critic of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman - has not been seen since visiting the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Tuesday. Saudi Arabia says he left the building but Turkey says he may  still be inside.
The newspaper said it was "worried" and called on Mr bin Salman to "welcome constructive criticism from patriots such as Mr Khashoggi"
It's interesting too that this 'missing journalist' story comes hot on the recently cooled heels of the much adieu about nothing Saudi/Canada spat.

Jamal is alleged to have gone missing from the Saudi consulate in Turkey. 
Was he actually in Turkey? If he was, why was he there?
The fiance places him in the consulate. The story goes something like he went to get a marriage licence and left his poor bride standing outside. That seems really silly.

"On Tuesday, Khashoggi entered the consulate to get paperwork he needed in order to be married next week, said his fiancée Hatice, who gave only her first name for fear of retribution. He gave her his mobile phones for safekeeping, something common as embassies throughout the Middle East routinely require phones to be left outside as a security precaution"
She won't give her name out of fear? As if anyone who wants to know who and where she is doesn't already know? Seems non credible. If not for her claim we wouldn't have him at the consulate.

Qatar news is suggesting that this was a stunt done to embarrass Turkey.
According to Qatar-based Mauritanian writer Mohammad Al-Shanqiti, “Saudi wanted to embarrass Turkey,” and that is why Khashoggi was taken in Istanbul. 
Saudi Arabia and Turkey have been on the outs for a while now

1- Turkey has good relations with Iran- To the consternation of Saudi Arabia

2- Turkey sided with Qatar- When the Saudi's tried to embargo Qatar- Both Turkey and Iran supported the nation- Certainly raising Saudi ire.

3- Saudi Arabia has been providing weapons to the PKK- this has caused  a lot of hard feelings for Turkey.  As has been previously covered here at the blog

Here's a bit more- Sputnik- Saudi Arabia Proposes Financial Aid to Kurds for Fight Against Syrian Army

And more 
Saudi officials establish YPG/PKK-backed Arab force
"Last Friday, three Saudi military consultants went to Ayn al-Arab district's Harab Isk village to hold meetings with YPG/PKK terrorists.
Saudi officials have set up communication checkpoints in al-Hasakah and Qamishli to recruit fighters .
The new Arab force will be part of the North Syria Federation, which YPG/PKK had unilaterally claimed in March 17, 2016.
Saudi Arabia sent truckloads of aid to YPG/PKK via Iraq last month, without explaining its content or revealing if there was any ammunition or weapons inside.
A Saudi minister who is responsible for Gulf relations visited YPG/PKK-occupied al-Raqqah province last October with U.S. officials to gather information."

If Jamal is in the same business as his namesake... ??  

The Saudi's have been supplying the Kurds with arms, covertly.... Might Jamal have been the man doing so? 

If that was the case, and he went missing from the Saudi consulate might this suggest to us that all is not well in the Saudi Kingdom? That there are divisions? Those that may wish to stop this regional game of chess?

Adnan and Ivana Trump
- Or if someone kidnapped him while on Turkish territory, though in the Saudi consulate, it might lead one to suspect that acrimony is being further fuelled between the Turks and the Saudis?  (Harkening back to the assassination of the Russian Ambassador on Turkish soil. That incident appeared to be an attempt to place a wedge between Turkey and Russia)
- Or pressure/embarrass the Turks as is suggested by the Qatari journalist.

- Possibly even an attempt to frame Turkey? 
Dodi Fayed &Diana

- Then of course, setting aside all the other possibilities mentioned of this whole situation- could it just be that there is no honour among thieves and it's just that simple?

Adnan Khashoggi connections:

 I've mentioned the Thatcher's. 

- Of course there was Oliver North (Iran Contra)
- Imelda Marcos. 
- Donald Trump - Yes, Donald Trump. And wife Ivana.
Donald eventually taking ownership of Khashoggi's yacht.

Lastly, Adnan's sister is :Soheir Khashoggi

Soheir Khashoggi's son was Dodi Fayed.

Dodi Fayed famously died in a car with Princess Diana


  1. the spacing is out of whack because of all the images
    But I've spent way too much time trying to fix it.
    I simply don't believe the presentation via the always obfuscating media regarding the disappearance of this alleged journalist..

    something else has to be going on- the story is too absurd to be taken at face value- unless it boils down to the fact there is no honour among thieves

  2. I find Peter Dale Scott's poem of interest,

    1. Yes that is interesting- particularly when thinking of the connections- global in scope that are very nefarious.

      Here's one more I should have added to the post, and will do so now.

      Adnan Khashoggi (Jamal's father In my opinion) met with Richard Perle just before the invasion of Iraq in 03

      As exposed by limited hang out Sy Hersh

      "In January of this year, he arranged a private lunch, in France, to bring together Harb Saleh al-Zuhair, a Saudi industrialist whose family fortune includes extensive holdings in construction, electronics, and engineering companies throughout the Middle East, and Richard N. Perle, the chairman of the Defense Policy Board, who is one of the most outspoken and influential American advocates of war
      with Iraq."

      Jamal may be an apple off that very same tree!

  3. Of course then there is the fact the 'journalist' Jamal Khashoggi famously interviewed, a man who definitely needed and had full access to covert arms traders, Osama Bin Laden

    I forgot to mention that as well in the above post
    Which connects him to Adnan again.

    Clearly I've got additional updating to do!

  4. In the french wikipedia they say that he is the cousin of Adnan Kashoggi.

    1. gallier2:

      does it say who his parents are?

      I found nothing. No information of any sort.

      Odd that it says that in french wiki and nothing here in 5 eyes land?

    2. No, only that. I followed the link given as source, article in Libération from the 5th octobre, but there that information isn't even present. I don't where they get that from (so much for wikipedia sourcing).

    3. Gallier2
      I spent hours trying to find some documentation about Jamal... and it is missing.

      Am I looking in the wrong places -main stream? I don't
      One conclusion I can draw so far is.. if we aren't supposed to know Jamal's background-- some persons of influence have made that a reality.

      Thanks for trying to help Gallier2 :)

  5. I've now updated the post with the information regarding Khashoggi's 'interviewing' of Osama Bin Laden

    There were multiple interviews and Khashoggi also traveled with Osama Bin Laden- over and eight year period of time

    1. Wouldn't that make him friends with the cia also?


    2. Hey jo!

      I'm so glad to see you around!!
      Had been thinking about you and said to hubby earlier in the week- I'm concerned about jo6pac..

      So i've just cheered and said to my husband- yeah it's jo!

      As for your comment regarding Khashoggi?

      "Wouldn't that make him friends with the cia also?"

      Yes, I would agree that his cavorting with OBL would suggest CIA connectivity- And like Gulen, Khashoggi was self exiled in the US- Gulen being.. yet another CIA asset!

      Oh the similarities!

    3. Yep the treatment is done by the radiation side effect are not fun at all and could take up to a year to go away.
      I just planted some tomato plants in my greenhouse so hopefully I'll have real tomato in late Nov.

      Time to go out and work on the firewood for winter. In Calli it look like it will be wet:-) and warmer than normal.


    4. A real tomato in November will be delicious
      I'm glad your ok so far and do stop by just to update me on your well being :)

      Meanwhile get busy with the firewood.
      And have a nice glass of wine :)

  6. Penny, Have you tried other search engines besides the gag-gle controlled ones? I use Duckduckgo, there are others. Perhaps you can find more info uncensored there.

    Thanks for your out-of-the-box perspective on this.

    Here is also a link you might want to watch, how they fool people by astroturfing.

    Could this Khashoggi story be manipulated by this method, to get the masses to believe another lie?

    1. I use duck duck go
      as well as google
      and a news aggregator for source material

      I'm listening to the video right now- ty

    2. LOL
      since I believe our perception is managed in a business as usual way- so thus far what she's saying is and has been quite apparent to me for some time