Thursday, October 11, 2018

US to Apply the Magnitsky Act Regarding the Khashoggi Incident?

 In case you're not up to speed?

 AlJaz-Senators trigger act requiring Trump to determine if foreign person committed rights violations against the Saudi writer

 This move sets some alarm bells off...........Five alarm fire style

"After the disappearance of prominent Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, US Senators triggered the terms of the Global Magnitsky Act, which requires the president to investigate and determine if a foreign person is responsible for a extrajudicial killing, torture or other gross violation of internationally recognised human rights.
In a letter, signed by a bipartisan group of 22 Senators on Wednesday, Bob Corker, the Republican chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, demanded President Donald Trump probe any violations committed against Khashoggi.
Here's a look at the Magnitsky Act and how it applies to Khashoggi's case:"

What is the Magnitsky Act?

"The Magnitsky Accountability Act was signed into law by then-President Barack Obama in December 2012, in response to human rights abuses against Russian lawyer and auditor Sergei Magnitsky"

Magnitsky was NOT a lawyer- He was an accountant. In 2011 three bloggers got together and wrote a big expose on the Magnitsky Browder saga years ago- I was one of those three.
The report is still available on line.

Tuesday, 16 August 2011: Magnitsky Report

Bill Browder was most recently playing the eternal victim role in Spain.

Is the Khashoggi disappearance a turning point for US-Saudi ties?

"Russian authorities arrested Magnitsky in 2008 after working with investor William Browder, who had hired him to uncover massive tax fraud totalling $230m linked to people connected to the Kremlin. Magnitsky was beaten in custody and died in 2009, days before his supposed release.
At the time of its passage, the Magnitsky Act targeted 18 Russian individuals, barring them from US entry and US bank dealings.
In 2016, it was expanded to give the executive branch power to impose targeted sanctions or visa bans on individuals who have committed human rights violations anywhere in the world.
With the threat of significant sanctions looming, the law is also meant to deter human rights violators from partaking in future violations, according to Mai El-Sadany, the legal and judicial director at the Tahrir Institute for Middle East Policy in Washington.
"The Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act is an unprecedented human rights tool ... [it] enables the president of the United States to apply targeted sanctions against individuals involved in human rights violations," El-Sadany told Al Jzeera."
The Magnistsky Act has nothing to do with human rights- It's the financial version of R2P.
R2P is a farcical excuse to attack other nations under the guise of protecting it's inhabitants

Louise Arbour"She now sees the R2P doctrine, in particular, as a failure: Its imposition by the UN in Libya, and the resulting chaos, severely crippled the notion of a legal intervention, she believes"

How is it triggered and what does it require the White House do?

"Upon receipt of a letter from a chairman and ranking member of one an appropriate House or Senate committees, the president has 120 days to determine if a foreign individual committed a human rights violation. A classified or unclassified report is then submitted to the committee explaining whether or not sanctions will be imposed, and if so, what sanctions. 
Violations would include "extrajudicial killings, torture, or other gross violations of internationally recognized human rights violations against individuals who seek to obtain, exercise, defend, or promote human rights and freedoms, including freedom of expression", according to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."

How does it apply in Khashoggi's case? What happens next?

"On Wednesday, ranking members and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, sent a letter to President Trump triggering the Magnitsky Act and an investigation into whether rights violations occured relating to Khashoggi's disappearance.
Upon receipt of the letter, the White House has 120 days to report back to the committee with a decision and determine whether it will impose sanctions on the foreign individual(s) involved in the "gross violation of internationally recognized human rights against an individual exercising freedom of expression".
Human rights violations would also include "torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment, prolonged detention without charges and trial, causing the disappearance of persons by the abduction and clandestine detention of those persons, and other flagrant denial of the right to life, liberty, or the security of person," the Committee wrote in its letter on Wednesday. 

"Therefore, we request that you make a determination on the imposition of sanctions pursuant to the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act with respect to any foreign person responsible for such a violation related to Mr. Khashoggi," Senators said. "Our expectation is that in making your determination you will consider any relevant information, including with respect to the highest ranking officials in the Government of Saudi Arabia."

The letter was sent by Senators Bob Menendez (D-NJ) and Bob Corker (R-TN), ranking member and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC), ranking member and chairman of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs.
The letter was also signed by Senators Marco Rubio (R-FL), Ben Cardin (D-MD), John Barrasso (R-WY), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Jeff Flake (R-AZ), Tim Kaine (D-VA), Cory Gardner (R-CO., Ed Markey (D-MA), Johnny Isakson (R-GA), Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Todd Young (R-IN), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Rob Portman (R-OH), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Ron Johnson (R-WI.), Chris Coons (D-Del.), Jim Risch (R-Idaho), and Tom Udall (D-NM)."

What will it mean for US-Saudi relations?

"The enactment of the Magnitsky Act has been seen as a major blow for US-Saudi relations by many in Washington.
Although Trump told reporters on Thursday that he saw no reason to block Saudi Arabian investments in the US, an impending investigation into Khashoggi's disappearance could potentially lead to economic and political sanctions on individuals in the oil-rich Gulf state.
James Zogby, founder and president of the Arab American Institute in Washington, DC, said Khashoggi's case has led to "a tremendous shift in public opinion", toward Saudi Arabia, "not only among [Americans] but also in the Senate".
Whether or not the president implements sanctions, he said, Khashoggi's case would continue to haunt Saudi Arabia.
"Not putting sanctions on individuals will only poison the well [for] future arms sales and future exemptions to sanctions," he said. "Clearly in the Senate, where Congress can act without the president, there will be repercussions.
"This is something that has been building. This has got to be a concern for [Saudi Arabia]; having a good relationship with President Trump does not translate to getting a free pass from the Senate."

Isn't it interesting that the US has also threatened to use the Magnitsky Act to wreak financial havoc on Turkey
And isn't it also interesting that a couple of years ago I wrote a big piece as a response to Scott previously from Willy Loman but now at nomadic everyman titled:
And it has been for a good long while now.
teeny bit of a big post with lots of outward links
Yours truly: "Sy Hersh like Joe Biden, planting the seeds in your mind for the next two planned destabilizations- Since Turkey’s destabilization was well under way at the time I wrote “Who controls the Past, Controls the Future” I put more focus on Sy's obvious framing and blaming of Saudi Arabia, while still pointing out the lies concerning Turkey"
Aaaah. Memories. 


  1. What if mbs is already dead
    What if the icc was threatening to rejuvinate war crimes allegations in yemen the uk thwarted few years ago
    What if trump just threatened the recluse king
    What if the security services have turned following the mutaib torture
    What does the cancel of the aramco ipo tell us
    What if someone was selling us bonds like the threat baxk during the 911 legislation
    What if the mysterious royal who called for a coup to save the kingdom from MBS is operational
    What if the saudi oil could not make it to its biggest client china

    What and where is nayef. You remember Nayef comment during his erdogan meeting they they faced the same enemy. You also remember the MEE story about the alleged deathbed that nayef was on by US itel sources.

    What if this is not about seperating Kash (Bandar disappearwd too) but state sponsorship. S400

    1. I've thought about the mbs incident. Dead or severely injured and having no real power..

      Noticed the canceling of the aramco ipo. But would have to speculate wildly on why that was done.

      Yes, I recall the Nayef comment when meeting with Erdogan about facing the same threat/enemy..

      Also thinking about the MBS purge.. and what may have resulted from that drastic move.

      Which may be a very quiet coup to save the Saudi kingdom from MBS.

      Separating state sponsorship? can you clarify that a bit?

      Do you mean breaking away from the US?
      Turning towards China?

      S400? Were the Saudi's going to purchase that?

    2. Mbs genrational bridge to past.
      Post reported coup MBS still pushing the aramco ipo.
      S400. Yes.

    3. Iran days ago offered fig leaf to saudis to restart negotiations to create and build regional agreements. Kind of like M. AM. Meeting the Abdullah?

    4. I missed the news about Iran making any offer to Saudi Arabia... Have a link handy?
      Or I'll have to look..

    5. found the report regarding iran's offer to Saudi Arabia

      "Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif says Iran is prepared to cooperate with Saudi Arabia in order to build a strong region together and put an end to the US humiliation of regional countries.

      “President Trump repeatedly humiliates the Saudis by saying they can't last 2 weeks without his support,” Zarif said in a Thursday tweet.

      “This is the recompense for the delusion that one's security can be outsourced. We again extend our hand to our neighbors: let's build a "strong region", and stop this conceit,” the Iranian top diplomat added.

    6. Why release the pastor now in line with another threatened east Euphrates Turkish incursion amidst the press releases on joint patrols - following days ago Russian FM comments that turkey iran and russia have different objectives in Syria?

      "Erdogan’s statement renews a threat to expand Turkey’s military operations into areas east of the Euphrates River held by U.S.-backed Syrian Kurds. Ankara considers the Syrian Kurdish militia to be terrorists and part of a Kurdish insurgency within Turkey. “God willing, very soon ... we will leave the terror nests east of the Euphrates in disarray,” he said

      15 man team?

      Turkey has what tapes and video? Feeding off the same 2014 leaks cable?

      Turkey YouTube Ban: Full Transcript of Leaked Syria 'War' - IBTimes

      Russia warns 'red line' crossed after Ukraine church split - Presstv

      Constantinople Patriarch?

      The photos, however, date to the Nineties, when the preacher was still a great friend and advisor to the current President. Aksam speaks of a sort of triad that conspired against the legitimate government: Gülen, the CIA and the Patriarchate. A series of other reconstructions, which also regard relationships with Moscow, cannot be confirmed.

      What is missing: The Chechen angle

    7. Erdogan Hopes to Crush Kurdish Militia East of Euphrates in Syria Soon - SPutnik

      Maybe Fidan tapped the Apple Watch "cam"

    8. 14AUG 2012:
      Saudi king sits next to Iran's Ahmadinejad in goodwill gesture

      “King Abdullah was showing Shi’ites: we haven’t tried to skip over you and ignore you. And he was showing to Sunnis here that here is Ahmadinejad and he is a Muslim too. He is not different to us,” said Shammari.

      Exclusive: Insiders suspected in Saudi cyber attack

      9AUG 2012

      In contrast to the 2018 MBS move for overflight

    9. US military has delivered new weaponry to the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) that stationed in ‘Manbij’ city, during the past few days

    10. US up to plunge in dangerous game in Syria with idea of unified Kurdistan, warns Lavrov

    11. thanks anonymous:

      I've been trying to think through why Turkey would release Brunson at this time?
      Considering all that is going on..

      -there is the financial thumb screws the US has been putting to Turkey?

      - did they get concessions from the US regarding a move into the area held by Usrael kurds?

      - Another commenter left a news story about a gunman attempting to enter the Gulen compound?

      what was that about?

      Meanwhile we have all this Khashoggi stuff?
      Whats going on with that?
      Did Turkey get line on dirty dealings that are connected to the US?

    12. I saw the news on the deliver of weapons to Manbij- along with heavy equipment for the Kurds to dig in..

      They can only be doing that as a means to keep Turkey from moving east- so much going on.

      I see what Lavrov said- I'm not surprised at all by his statement
      and in fact will be posting it

  2. Why was Aktay left off the list?


    1. Don't know about Aktay?
      The Manbij patrols are going nowhere from what I've read.
      I saw news the US had provided the Kurds with the means to barricade themselves into Manbij-
      Heavy equipment and building materials-


  4. Hi Penny: Wish I'd known about the blog "Suspicious Deaths" when I wrote about Magnitsky last February, but it didn't come up in a Google search. (No kidding, eh?) I'm going to add it to my "Interesting Places" list.

    I also keep looking for some evidence MBS is alive/functioning but even in videos there are only stills of him. To me, this is one of the clearest indications that the MSM are totally corrupted.

    1. HeyYaya:

      good morning!
      Myself and a few others started the blog with high goals and I'm now the only blogger left of the original 4- sadly because I miss the others- same as I missed you.

      I can access it- but haven't added to it, cause I just don't have the time :(

      I saved a pile of stuff there when Boris Berzovsky was suicided-- and that's the last time I worked on anything there in draft format

      Yah I'm wondering about MBS's condition as well.
      I see all the images of him are stills and older.
      I wonder if the assassination attempt was successful and he is, if not dead, severely incapacitated.

      Which may have pushed the US to move ahead on their long planned remake of Saudi Arabia... A little quicker then they would have liked?

      The Khashoggi story is full of holes. The fiance is simply not credible.

      And yes the MSM is totally corrupted.

    2. Yaya: Leave the link for your Magnitsky post here
      I think that a permanent reference in the side bar has become absolutely necessary

    3. The russian attorney gen killed in copter was investigating all three. Skripal, magin, litven. Uk says khash was poisoned. Polonium or sarin?

    4. Here it is, Penny. I wish I had titled it more succinctly, but the bulk of the article is about Magnitsky.

      NATO researcher warns of Russian interference in 2019 Canadian election: "Russia has threatened unspecified retaliation against Canada for its passage of anti-corruption legislation named in honour of the Russian whistleblower Sergei Magnitsky."

  5. This is relevent:

    Putin can meet with energy ministers of Iran and Saudi Arabia on October 3

    Russian President Vladimir Putin will take part in the plenary session ‘Sustainable Energy for a Changing World’ during the Russian Energy Week International Forum. On the sidelines of the forum he will be able to briefly meet with the heads of energy ministries of Iran and Saudi Arabia - Iranian Oil Minister Bijan Namdar Zanganeh and Energy Minister of Saudi Arabia Khalid al-Falih, Russian Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov told on Tuesday, TASS reports.

    So we have Iran extending the fig leaf to Saudi Arabia and Putin meeting with the oil ministers of both nations beginning of this month

  6. Hi Penny:

    Here's my most recent reference to the Magnitsky Act:

    You will note that the Magnitsky docudrama has been disappeared off YouTube. It would almost appear that the Magnitsky Act has been given a new life--as it is being applied to the Saudi issue. Kind of like shape shifting, which the perps are so well known for.

  7. thanks everyone- I'm going to make a permanent link list in the sidebar regarding the Magnitsky nonsense